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My DH has had an emotional affair

469 replies

bullinthesea · 18/06/2013 14:52

Hello,

I don't post very much, but I am a frequent lurker!

Sadly, I have discovered that my DH has been having an emotional affair with a woman at his work. I have met her a few times over the years, and have always liked her! (Not any more!).

He was supporting me through a nasty bout of depression, and she was also having problems with family illness etc, and it seems they got too close, whilst chatting. He has always been the type to help others out. I think perhaps his 'knight in shining armour' came out when he came across this 'damsel in distress'!

There were emails/Facebook messages/texts, (the texts were all deleted, but in plain sight on our joint itemised bill!).

I discovered the whole lot on Friday night, and confronted him on Saturday morning.

I told him to sit down and tell me the truth. He says that it was just a load of flirty e-mails, and that he knew it was wrong when he was doing it, that it had all fizzled out and that he regretted it. He was very remorseful, and asked whether I could ever forgive him. I told him it was about being able to trust him again.

I found comments such as

Him "I must have been on your mind, was this email meant for Mr X?"
Her "you're always on my mind"
Him "mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!"

And

Her "thank you for earlier, I feel a lot better now !!"
Him "yeah, me too, can meet up on Wednesday for a follow up if it helps :)"

Her "is there anything else I can do for you"
Him "there may be a couple of things that may rise up"

Him " look at you working on xyz"
Her "can never be too prepared?"
Him "I am always prepared!"

She also kept asking him about his knees, on one occasion, they were organising some work time, and he responded with:
Him "should be good"
Her " what do you mean, SHOULD......... Are your knees hurting?"
Him "no, they have recovered, it's my calf, I pulled it running this morning"

Another message went:
Her "how are your knees and feet now"
Him "well, no carpet burns! How are you, we,ve been thinking about you?"

Then there was the time about six months ago, when he was having some funny turns. He had to spend the day at hospital having tests. He had already phoned into work, to tell them that he wouldn't be in that day, and yet I discovered that he'd emailed her from the hospital, to tell her about the tests and said that it was scary, there were loads of exclamation marks at the end (and on lots of the other emails too). He then emailed her again later about the results, with the same message that he had texted to me a few minutes prior, but he'd added extra exclamation marks on hers.

A lot of the content of these emails (and some others that I haven't written about) suggests that things may have got physical.

He strongly denies that it got physical, and says that he doesn't even find her physically attractive. He has said that it was exciting, and that she had made him feel good, as it had felt like she wanted him. He also told me that she had tried to kiss him at an Xmas do a few years ago, but he didn't kiss back, and had thought it was odd.

I asked if he thought she might have a bit of a thing for him, and he paused and said, "yeah, probably".

I have told him that I am going to get tested for STIs, just in case, as I'm not sure I can believe what he's telling me, and want to be sure that I haven't caught anything.

We both cried a lot, and he buried his head in my lap and told me he was so sorry over and over.

I do love him very much, and feel that we became distant, (although things had been much better recently), that we need to focus on our marriage much more (he agreed) and do our best to recover the strong love that we always used to have.

Only thing is, if it did get physical, then I would have to end the relationship.

I am so confused, I can barely concentrate on anything, and I haven't a clue where I'd start if I suddenly found myself single - I'm a sahm, my son is 7, and I am not bringing in any income at the moment, so he supports us all financially.

I just don't know what to do next.....

OP posts:
TurnipCake · 29/06/2013 10:49

I'm sorry OP, but deep down I think you knew he was a lying cheating sack of shit from the start and you did your utmost to believe the best of him.

Whatever happens, now is the time to make you the priority. To hell with what he thinks, wants or needs. At this time you don't need his simpering, snivelling face in your presence, let alone your lap.

captainmummy · 29/06/2013 11:05

Xales is right. And turnipcake. You knew deep down.

What a shit.

And agree, put yourself first. Sod what he wants. What do you want?

So Sad

lottieandmia · 29/06/2013 11:29

Angry that he has put you through this. Do you even know that he has ended it? If it was me I think I would want him out but know it often isn't that simple.

Do you think you will be able to get over an affair?

Thisisaeuphemism · 29/06/2013 11:39

So he's been having an affair for over six months, it only finished when you found out, he swore on his sons life it wasn't physical, he begged you to keep it secret....
He really is a shit.
Please get as much rl support as you can to get you through this. He cant be trusted.

Hopasholic · 29/06/2013 11:39

So sorry OP. So not only has he proved he's a cheating shit, he's told you bare face lies and put the health of both you and your baby at risk.

I think, given how you come across in your posts, that you may have been able to get over this had he been honest from the start but the blatant lies really would be the final straw.

Swearing on kids lives eh? Means nothing to him.

Ask him to leave and get some space Flowers

pumpkinsweetie · 29/06/2013 11:58

Get rid of this loser, he is a lying, cheating baffoon and a coward.
He needs a golden globe for his acting skills, and a one way ticket out of your life for swearing on his own childs life!!!-does that mean nothing to him?

You deserve better than this imbosile, don't fall for any more of his excuses and his acting is just that, acting. Don't be his red carpet, don't allow him to walk all over you with lies and deception, & never ever feel sorry for him, he made his bed, he can lie in it!!

evelynj · 29/06/2013 12:08

Hugs to you. Time to look at the practical side for a bit I think. Move him out while you have some time to think things through, (before reading the admission I was going to suggest a Jeremy Kyle style lie detector test).

Sorry, I'm confused about the background. Is 7 yo DS his son? And, are you pregnant now or were you referring to 7 yr ago or subsequent pg?

He's made everything so much worse by more lies & harder for you to know if there's any way for you to recover from this. I know most people will say end it and get rid but only you can decide & it's a very difficult time when you've had an unexpected bout of depression. There is a lot of help on here so please keep posting, take what you like from the replies and leave the rest.

I'll be thinking of you x

Leavenheath · 29/06/2013 12:17

You say he's been working with this woman for 'years' and he says she 'tried to kiss him' years ago but he declined.

In the light of this new information, I'd be wondering whether this has been going on for years and years, in some form or another and whether this was indeed the cause of your depression.

There's another thread at the moment about an affair that's been going on for 10 years. Lots of people assumed the wife knew, but lots of people pointed out that there was no evidence at all to suggest that she did. I did wonder whether that poor woman had been feeling a bit rubbish for 10 years though, without ever really knowing the cause of it Sad.

I'm not sure how you'd ever prove when this first started, but I wouldn't trust the timescale he gives you at all. Maybe think back to what your relationship was like after that (probably reciprocated) kiss.

lovesfastcars · 29/06/2013 12:30

So sorry, I know exactly how you feel. The worst part for me was the constant bloody lying on top of the initial shock.
Mine tried to pretend that he was 'protecting me' from further hurt, but was clearly trying to save his own arse!
Please get some RL support, a friend you trust, a relative maybe? Visit your GP if you are struggling, take some time off work if you need to.
Above all take care of yourself and DC (sorry can't remember if you have any)
Get him to leave, even if for a short while, or as long as you need to give you some headspace. this REALLY helped me,although it was initially hard. It helped me to think more calmly and clearly, and made him see the cold harsh reality of his actions.
We had a relate session, which I personally did not find helpful (and v expensive) The councillor my GP referred me to has been amazing though. I know some people have benefited from M guidence though so not dissing it at all.
Whatever works for you really, whichever way it goes.Baby steps to get through the hours,days etc initially. Do things that make you feel good, however small. Lovely bubbly bath with a glass of wine maybe, new hairstyle, clothes, music etc.
There is no rush to make any decisions either way just yet about the future, take everything at your own pace while you are absorbing the shock of it all.Plenty of time to sort out the route you want to take when you feel stronger.
Sorry if this is rambly and not massively helpful, but I can really identfy with what you are going through.

Elkieb · 29/06/2013 18:50

Coming out of lurking to say that I am so sorry this is happening and I hope you have some real life support.

bullinthesea · 29/06/2013 19:49

Thanks so much for all the supportive posts ladiesSmile

It's been an unbearably hard day.

I'll try & get back to any questions soon when I'm a bit more with it Wink.

Believe it or not, I texted my Mum last week with the details, and was shocked when she replied "sometimes you've got to fight for your man" and "you've got to think about how leaving him would affect DS". Not very supportive really.

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GetStuffezd · 29/06/2013 19:54

Not fucking supportive at all. Sad What a shame to get that response when you've taken the plunge and asked for support. We're all here when you're ready.

pumpkinsweetie · 29/06/2013 19:56

Blimey, definetly not supportive, nevee should you stay in a marriage just for the children, it won't work.
That's a very old fashioned view your mother has, please take no notice.
It's better to have two parents living apart that are happy than having both under one roof that are miserable and unhappy.

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JackAranda · 29/06/2013 20:18

i'm so sorry your worst suspicions have been correct

But as others have said, you kind of knew anyway and at least now its out in the open... and so you can make some choices and decisions. better than superficially repairing your marriage with unknown betrayal beneath the surface...

What are you going to do ?

lazarusb · 29/06/2013 20:19

Delurking to reinforce that he really isn't worth fighting for. I'm sorry you're enduring this pain. He has put himself first over and over.

FWIW, I got a lot of negative comments when I left my abusive ex. Sometimes people lack empathy & understanding to an unbelievable degree.

tessa6 · 29/06/2013 20:33

bull, never forget that people hate change, particularly older people. When my sister went through her divorce, our parents were horribly unsupportive because they had no model for it and frankly, they didn't welcome the emotional and practical avalanche that was falling on them from all sides (child care and vulnerability.) They just didn't want to have to worry about my sister and their grandchildren, and they saw the maintenance of the status quo as the way that would suit that best.

Others go into shock too when they're told about it, just like the innocent partner, and the first thing they try and do is hold things together. That doesn't mean it's the right, or healthiest choice to make for the long run.

tessa6 · 29/06/2013 20:34

Just to add, they are now massively supportive and everyone is really happy, post-divorce. They were just afraid of it. But now the kids are settled and the arrangements all make sense (who picks up who from school when etc) they both pretend they think she made the right choice(!)

Twattergy · 29/06/2013 20:44

I'm glad you have your truth OP. But sorry he has done this to you.

myroomisatip · 29/06/2013 20:55

De lurking also, to say he is not worth fighting for! Blimey! I am a bit shocked at that response and I doubt I am far from your mothers age!!! Angry

I am so sorry you are going through this. I have been through a horrendous relationship with my STBXH, he was abusive in many ways, but the worst he did in that respect (AFAIK) was flirt and that was bad enough!

Take care of yourself ((hug))

lottieandmia · 29/06/2013 20:56

Sorry to hear that your mum came up with such an unsupportive response. The very person you needed on your side I expect Sad

captainmummy · 29/06/2013 21:05

'Sometimes you have to fight for your man'??? Why? If he is a shit why would you fight for him?

'you've got to think about how leaving him would affect DS' - Sorry? If you leave dh, it is DH's fault that this would affect ds. Not yours. HE should have thought about how it 'will affect ds'.

FFS.

Gruntfuttock · 29/06/2013 21:05

I'm appalled at your mother's response. So sorry you are going through this OP.

lemonstartree · 29/06/2013 21:40

I am also appalled at you mother's response to you asking for help ( I am assuming you told her you H has been having an affair - even if you did not her response is shite)

Did he tell you he had shagged her ? or did you find out ?

I really hope you are ok. I know everyone has been saying from the beginning that he must have had a physical affair - but having it confirmed is particularly awful...

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