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Caught partner on porn - tmi and very long

98 replies

ItsTheYoniWay · 05/06/2013 21:47

Kids are asleep for the night. I've had a drink. I know bad idea but I'm a mess. Bear with me people...

Right I'm not wanting to hear from anyone telling me that porn is fine and to just get over it. It's not "fine" in my relationship and I made that very clear to my partner years ago.
Cba to even fucking namechange for this shit. I'm not long here anyway but long-time lurker.

Sorry if this is garbled. Mentally I'm just fried right now.

Bit of background. Partner of 5 years (2 kids - second is just 7 weeks) cheated on me at the beginning of the relationship. Actually he was pretty much just fucking me about at the start, only with me to make another girl jealous (we were late teens). He said some horrible things about me to her that I found out. I stupidly took him back believing that he meant what he said and he would change and he didn't mean it bla bla bla. It was very tough and I struggled with trust issues the whole way through.

I hate porn with a passion. Yes because it makes me feel like shit and it's a total fucking dealbreaker and not something I'm willing to tolerate. My partner swore to me he would never use it and that he would be totally honest with me. Was always telling me he doesn't like it and why would he because he has me. Naive I know.
I felt he was being distant with me over the past while but couldn't put my finger on it. No spark, no romance, he didn't seem interested in me much.
I kept trying to talk to him, saying I wanted to spice things up and make it work. Just felt like I couldn't get through to him. In one ear out the other. He'd make all the right noises and tell me what I wanted to hear but nothing ever changed.

So this morning before he set off I had fallen asleep on the sofa. I woke up a little while later and went looking for OH, called him and no reply. Saw his stuff in the hall so knew he hadn't left.
Went into the PC room and found him wanking off to porn. I freaked out. He gave some lame excuse about how he was looking at a "tutorial" video for anal sex because he wanted to do it with me but was afraid to ask. yeah fucking right

Now years ago I was raped by a (then) quite close friend I thought I could trust. As a result I find anal horrible and triggering. Nuff said.

He knows this. We did try it before at his request but it would trigger panic attacks, flashbacks, I'd be vomiting afterwards and I just couldn't do it yet it was all he wanted to do. I felt very pressured into it. Felt like he didn't understand or care and it was all about him. I used to cry during it sometimes and he wouldn't notice.

Eventually I put my foot down and said no more as I couldn't take it anymore. He said he was fine with it and that he was sorry bla bla bla.

Now knowing all this I think it's pretty sick and disrespectful of him to still want to do this shit knowing the effect it has on me. He's been basically letting more and more slip as the day goes on. The story keeps changing slightly. He says he wasn't looking for porn but tips to spice things up, that it was a tutorial video showing him what to do.

His excuse that he wasn't wanking he was measuring himself was the biggest LOL I've had in ages.
He must take me for a fucking idiot.

He's still sticking to that story though. Although he did admit eventually he was wanking but now it's "I wasn't going to finish". As if that makes it any less hurtful? Also he says it's the first time in 5 years it's happened...and I caught him straight away. Am I supposed to believe that? He had plenty of opportunity and he's obviously been doing this for ages hence him not having any fucking interest in me.

It's the fact he can still look me in the eye and lie to me that hurts the most. He just doesn't fucking care. He just wants me to forget all about it and "spice things up" like I'd been saying before I caught him.
BULL-SHIT!

There were other problems in the relationship. Things haven't been going that well in the past 18 months anyway and this is just the straw that broke it iygwim? I always felt that he had no respect for boundaries. He does little or nothing around the house. Sits on his fucking pc all day playing games. Little interaction with the kids.
Basically he wont grow the fuck up.

Honestly this just hurts like a motherfuck. I've been crying, then sarky bitch, angry then crying again. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
I was finally feeling like I could trust him. I felt great since my second arrived as in I always suffered with confidence problems and BDD. For the first time in years I felt like I actually liked what I saw in the mirror.
Now I don't know what to think.

Then again I also I have PND or something along those lines. I'm 90% sure I had it with my first but never sought help as I didn't understand it or the symptoms but it's only when I thought back it really hit me only recently that fuck sake why didn't I realise it?
I have up and down days. Mostly down. Worse since my second was born. Maybe that's why he went looking elsewhere?

I know I need to leave. I don't want to be with him now that I've finally copped on and know what he's like. I can't stand people breaking promises and lying to me.
The other part just doesn't want to believe it and wants to go back to the lala land of denial and pretend he'll go back to the same perfect guy he was when I fell for him which I know isn't going to happen because mr. perfect never existed in the first place.
I know if I stay he'll do it again and again and he'll walk all over me and it'll only get worse.

I still love him obviously. I always will. I'm completely mad about him. Sad If he wasn't such a shit he'd be everything I ever wanted. I wish I could switch off. Sad

I confided in my parents who live nearby. They were all trying to reassure me that I'm only 23, got the rest of my life left, will meet the right guy etc.Tbh every relationship I've had I've either been cheated on or treated like shite - I don't think I can ever trust a man again. Secondly I don't even want anyone else. I only ever wanted him. I can't imagine a life with anyone else.
Thirdly (I hope this doesn't cause offence) I've got 2 kids. Nobody will touch me with a 10-foot bargepole.

Talk some sense into me people. Yes he's still in the house but I'm not going to boot him out as he has nowhere to go and I don't want him on the streets. Yes I will let him see the kids. I'll fucking force him if I have to. I just don't know how to cope.

I'm waiting/terrified of the moment, probably tomorrow when he's not here, that I'm going to go through that bit again where it finally really hits me and I have a huge fucking crying meltdown where I do the whole "I can't cope, fuck my life" routine.

OP posts:
picnicbasketcase · 05/06/2013 21:56

I'm so sorry. I don't have anything useful to say really but wiser people will be along in a minute. I know porn isn't a dealbreaker for some people, but it clearly is a big issue to you, he knows that and watched it anyway. Do you have any people in RL you can talk to?

Jengnr · 05/06/2013 21:56

He wasn't a 'perfect guy' he used to pressure you into anal despite what it did to you.

Boot him out, he'll find somewhere to go.

Good luck sweetheart xxxx

tuffinmop · 05/06/2013 21:57

You are crying during anal sex and he doesn't notice??? Watching a "tutorial" about something that triggers fear and panic attacks about a past rape? WTAF????

Porn is the least of your worries love. My DH has a problem with porn that we are trying to overcome (not sure if we will get there, couple counselling will tell), but if he had dared to behave that way whilst actually having sex with me he'd be history.
He is a selfish manchild arse.
Sorry Sad

FarBetterNow · 05/06/2013 22:01

OP: I'm sorry and don't really know what to say to you.

Some men seem obsessed with their willies & sex.

I think the really bad bit is wanting anal sex knowing that you don't and knowing the reasons why you don't.
I do think that is disrespectful and wierd.
Why would he do that knowing you hate it?

Unfortunately love is blind and we don't notice failings at first in the person we love.

I suppose if we did we would all carry on looking for My Perfect forever.

You will cope on your own. He doesn't sound as though he does much to help you anyway.

Lots of love and best wishes to you and your DCs.

Cabrinha · 05/06/2013 22:05

Oh love - forget whether porn is a deal breaker. He's done far worse. You don't have sex with people when they're crying. My heart is breaking for you. There is better out there for you than this. Being on your own, is better for you than this. xxx

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 05/06/2013 22:08

OP you poor thing. I think the last thing you should be worrying about is where he will go. You do not deserve to be treated this way.

ariane5 · 05/06/2013 22:11

Reading your OP made me so sad. You sound completely broken.

Knowing your history he should never, ever, ever have done something that was such a terrible trigger for you. To do that is unforgiveable and just plain nasty of him.
It does sound as if you have to end this relationship and there is clearly no respect for you there.

You have obviously been through some really awful times and you need to concentrate on yourself and dcs, get away from this man who is not worth it at all. See your gp and talk things through, maybe get counselling if you feel it would help.

Start afresh and I wish you all the best and all the luck in the world. You deserve so much better.

overture · 05/06/2013 22:11

Hi Yoni,

He knew your stance on porn, -he didn't care did it anyway

He knew about your rape and what its triggers were-didn't care his needs come first.

Those two things say it all, but the second--Is imo borderlines abuse, quite possibly is though.

For the man who is suppose to love you and respect you to pressure you into something like that which triggers panic attacks and flash backs for a purely selfish act .....Yoni :( He deserves the boot.

I am so sorry you've been through so much, I promise you there are men out there that are lovely and treat women a million times better even when they have children from a previous marriage.

Reading your post made me feel ill, I can't believe he is so damned bloody selfish......

I know you don't want to throw him out.......BUT that would be the kindest that comes to my mind atm.

So so sorry :(

chipmonkey · 05/06/2013 22:41

He is only marginally better than the man who raped you. In fact, I'm not sure that what he was doing to you wasn't rape. He pressurised you into it and didn't stop when you cried.
You deserve better than him. And having no-one at all would be better than having him.Sad

5madthings · 05/06/2013 22:44

I think the porn is the least of your problems, this 'man' pressured you into performing sexual acts you weremr comfortable with. He is abusive, please get out now.

And at 23 you do have your whole life ahead of you, really you do and you will be SL much happier without him.

(((Yoni))))

AnyFucker · 05/06/2013 22:53

So, to summarise, this man....

  1. does fuck all around the house

  2. doesn't interact with his dc

  3. cheated on you, and disrespected you with the OW he was boffing

  4. coerced you into sex acts that trigger PTSD, and carried on even though it was quite clear you didn't want to

  5. uses porn when he knows it is a "total deal breaker" to you

  6. thinks you are fucking stupid, and will believe the complete codswallop he is spinning you

  7. makes it clear he will do what the fuck he wants, and doesn't care how you feel about it

End it now, before you don't even recognise yourself any more.

ItsTheYoniWay · 05/06/2013 23:00

I fucking love you people. I'm actually crying at the responses. Part of me is finally relieved someone understands and I know it's not in my head, part of me devestated about everything. Apologies for the language.

You lot think the wanting to do anal is bad? He used to only shag me while I was asleep a few years ago. Until I caught him out. He still didn't fully admit it. I haven't told anyone about this either. Been trying to put it behind me. Now I realise how fucked up it is and I need help.

I read the responses all out to him as far as 5madthings. No response since. Head in hands and everything. He's actually falling asleep now. Doesn't. Give. A. Flying. Fuck.

Absolute shithead.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 05/06/2013 23:03
  1. has raped you while you sleep

he is a sexual abuser, love

throw him out...let him sleep in a cardboard box, he won't start freezing his manky nob off until at least october

5madthings · 05/06/2013 23:05

yoni leave, get out, you don't need this man, really you don't.

You will get plenty of support on mnet and there is help available.

Think practical, make a list, get on touch with women's aid, also 'gingerbread' are quote good at offering advice and info to single parents.

You aren't alone xxx

kilmuir · 05/06/2013 23:07

the wanking is just the tip of the iceberg.
Get rid, you do deserve better

overture · 05/06/2013 23:11

OMG Yoni
That IS rape.
Please get out of this, and your dc out this, he is a role model. I would even say to go the police over that. sad

refuge.org.uk/get-help-now/

He is beyond all help that I can see, and is devoid of any moral compass doing what he has done to you.
I am shocked, sad, sick and angry for you.

You have all my thoughts and prayers

Boosterseat · 05/06/2013 23:14

You deserve better, so much better. Flowers

Kick his lame ass to the curb

Don't worry about finding another man, find yourself and learn to love yourself - you know you're freaking awesome. You have plenty of time to find real love.

Silence is because he is a stupid twat who can't yet (or might never will) learn to articulate his stunted emotional skill set.

Please take care x

overture · 05/06/2013 23:16

sorry that should have read he is NOT a role model :( doh not having a good night with replies sorry :(

KalevalaForMePlease · 05/06/2013 23:16

AF is right, he is a total loser and you and your kids deserve better. You sound like you're angry, which is good. You should be angry, he's been getting away with murder for years. No wonder you had depression, and problems with your body image, you are with a man who sees you as a vessel to wank in. He's not concerned about your feelings, or enjoyment at all. Ditch him. Good luck.

BOF · 05/06/2013 23:21

You poor poor darling- this is all SO SO wrong Angry.

I agree with your parents (and well done for telling them). You WILL be happy, and you DON'T need him. What a vile, entitled, rapey piece of shit he is. Run, run, run, and never look back. Your whole life is ahead of you.

FennCara · 05/06/2013 23:23

I could have written so much of your post OP

I remember crying during anal and it not registering with "D"H. I was assaulted when younger. I had the PND, the down days, the feeling of being so far away from yourself and constantly on the brink. I have two, soon to be three, kids. Im mid-20s.

What happen next in these situations is not pretty. I had a severe breakdown. Suicide watch. Never being alone with kids for weeks on end. I did get better, but the ONE thing that stopped it all was splitting up with my husband. I love him, but it would wreck me to go back now.

You wouldn't drive around in an unroadworthy car if it seemed unlikely you could get another. Rather than risk so much, (I hope) you would ditch the car and walk.

tallwivglasses · 05/06/2013 23:29

it's rare that I read an op and cry. You're 23. This is not a great guy. This is an abuser and a rapist. You are an amazing young woman who has overcome ptsd and pnd to be a good mum. If you boot him out your life won't be over, it'll have just begun. My friend us 44 with 4 kids and she's in a lovely new relationship. You have your whole life ahead of you. The only thing holding you back is him.

BOF · 05/06/2013 23:32

Tallwivglasses is absolutely spot on. Start your new life.

buaitisi · 06/06/2013 00:33

Yoni, I've been in a similar situation.
Past rape really messed with my head about what's acceptable with sex.
Was with a man who wanted to try loads of 'new things' during, they triggered memories & made me cry during sex too but he didn't care and continued.
I thought this was normal sex and i had such problems because past rape had made me 'not normal' so I should let him continue and not let this affect present relationship but it makes everything so much worse.
It was just someone else violating me and what I didn't want or enjoy.
I have kids now and a good dh.
What you want is as valid as what he wants. I'm sorry that I'm not very articulate and if this is all jumbled.
He's a prick who used your body for sexual gratification while you slept or cried. I hope I'm not upsetting you more.
Please stand up for yourself and tell him to leave, he can still see your kids if you want but please, please love yourself and treat yourself better.
He's not bringing anything but heartache to you.
I'll be thinking of you xx

Blistory · 06/06/2013 00:47

He's an inadequate, pathetic creature who doesn't deserve to have you in his life.

You, on the other hand, are an incredible, strong, young woman with a lifetime of joy and happiness ahead of you. You just need to find your way there and he's stopping you. Don't let him waste another minute of your life.