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Caught partner on porn - tmi and very long

98 replies

ItsTheYoniWay · 05/06/2013 21:47

Kids are asleep for the night. I've had a drink. I know bad idea but I'm a mess. Bear with me people...

Right I'm not wanting to hear from anyone telling me that porn is fine and to just get over it. It's not "fine" in my relationship and I made that very clear to my partner years ago.
Cba to even fucking namechange for this shit. I'm not long here anyway but long-time lurker.

Sorry if this is garbled. Mentally I'm just fried right now.

Bit of background. Partner of 5 years (2 kids - second is just 7 weeks) cheated on me at the beginning of the relationship. Actually he was pretty much just fucking me about at the start, only with me to make another girl jealous (we were late teens). He said some horrible things about me to her that I found out. I stupidly took him back believing that he meant what he said and he would change and he didn't mean it bla bla bla. It was very tough and I struggled with trust issues the whole way through.

I hate porn with a passion. Yes because it makes me feel like shit and it's a total fucking dealbreaker and not something I'm willing to tolerate. My partner swore to me he would never use it and that he would be totally honest with me. Was always telling me he doesn't like it and why would he because he has me. Naive I know.
I felt he was being distant with me over the past while but couldn't put my finger on it. No spark, no romance, he didn't seem interested in me much.
I kept trying to talk to him, saying I wanted to spice things up and make it work. Just felt like I couldn't get through to him. In one ear out the other. He'd make all the right noises and tell me what I wanted to hear but nothing ever changed.

So this morning before he set off I had fallen asleep on the sofa. I woke up a little while later and went looking for OH, called him and no reply. Saw his stuff in the hall so knew he hadn't left.
Went into the PC room and found him wanking off to porn. I freaked out. He gave some lame excuse about how he was looking at a "tutorial" video for anal sex because he wanted to do it with me but was afraid to ask. yeah fucking right

Now years ago I was raped by a (then) quite close friend I thought I could trust. As a result I find anal horrible and triggering. Nuff said.

He knows this. We did try it before at his request but it would trigger panic attacks, flashbacks, I'd be vomiting afterwards and I just couldn't do it yet it was all he wanted to do. I felt very pressured into it. Felt like he didn't understand or care and it was all about him. I used to cry during it sometimes and he wouldn't notice.

Eventually I put my foot down and said no more as I couldn't take it anymore. He said he was fine with it and that he was sorry bla bla bla.

Now knowing all this I think it's pretty sick and disrespectful of him to still want to do this shit knowing the effect it has on me. He's been basically letting more and more slip as the day goes on. The story keeps changing slightly. He says he wasn't looking for porn but tips to spice things up, that it was a tutorial video showing him what to do.

His excuse that he wasn't wanking he was measuring himself was the biggest LOL I've had in ages.
He must take me for a fucking idiot.

He's still sticking to that story though. Although he did admit eventually he was wanking but now it's "I wasn't going to finish". As if that makes it any less hurtful? Also he says it's the first time in 5 years it's happened...and I caught him straight away. Am I supposed to believe that? He had plenty of opportunity and he's obviously been doing this for ages hence him not having any fucking interest in me.

It's the fact he can still look me in the eye and lie to me that hurts the most. He just doesn't fucking care. He just wants me to forget all about it and "spice things up" like I'd been saying before I caught him.
BULL-SHIT!

There were other problems in the relationship. Things haven't been going that well in the past 18 months anyway and this is just the straw that broke it iygwim? I always felt that he had no respect for boundaries. He does little or nothing around the house. Sits on his fucking pc all day playing games. Little interaction with the kids.
Basically he wont grow the fuck up.

Honestly this just hurts like a motherfuck. I've been crying, then sarky bitch, angry then crying again. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
I was finally feeling like I could trust him. I felt great since my second arrived as in I always suffered with confidence problems and BDD. For the first time in years I felt like I actually liked what I saw in the mirror.
Now I don't know what to think.

Then again I also I have PND or something along those lines. I'm 90% sure I had it with my first but never sought help as I didn't understand it or the symptoms but it's only when I thought back it really hit me only recently that fuck sake why didn't I realise it?
I have up and down days. Mostly down. Worse since my second was born. Maybe that's why he went looking elsewhere?

I know I need to leave. I don't want to be with him now that I've finally copped on and know what he's like. I can't stand people breaking promises and lying to me.
The other part just doesn't want to believe it and wants to go back to the lala land of denial and pretend he'll go back to the same perfect guy he was when I fell for him which I know isn't going to happen because mr. perfect never existed in the first place.
I know if I stay he'll do it again and again and he'll walk all over me and it'll only get worse.

I still love him obviously. I always will. I'm completely mad about him. Sad If he wasn't such a shit he'd be everything I ever wanted. I wish I could switch off. Sad

I confided in my parents who live nearby. They were all trying to reassure me that I'm only 23, got the rest of my life left, will meet the right guy etc.Tbh every relationship I've had I've either been cheated on or treated like shite - I don't think I can ever trust a man again. Secondly I don't even want anyone else. I only ever wanted him. I can't imagine a life with anyone else.
Thirdly (I hope this doesn't cause offence) I've got 2 kids. Nobody will touch me with a 10-foot bargepole.

Talk some sense into me people. Yes he's still in the house but I'm not going to boot him out as he has nowhere to go and I don't want him on the streets. Yes I will let him see the kids. I'll fucking force him if I have to. I just don't know how to cope.

I'm waiting/terrified of the moment, probably tomorrow when he's not here, that I'm going to go through that bit again where it finally really hits me and I have a huge fucking crying meltdown where I do the whole "I can't cope, fuck my life" routine.

OP posts:
greeneyed · 07/06/2013 06:56

Yoni, stay strong. You don't need him. Why would they take your kids? You can care for them just as ablely as you have been doing without him there. In fact it will be easier without him laying around the place and crushing you mentally. You deserve better, don't settle for this for you or your children x

AnyFucker · 07/06/2013 07:15

Yoni, as has been said many times on these boards it is far more likely that SS would take issue with your children living in a house where there is abuse rather than a lone parent doing her best for her kids and providing a good role model

End your relationship with this man. Be seen to be putting your kids before a bloke. It is all you have to do. You do everything anyway, and he still drags you down. Imagine how much easier it would actually be to be free of the fear and anxiety about what he will do next to make you feel like shit

Imagine not caring what he does

You won't achieve that if you stay with him

ThreeTomatoes · 07/06/2013 09:04

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

cjel · 07/06/2013 23:50

How you doing?xx

BriansBrain · 08/06/2013 00:05

I'm worried that you don't yet realise how serious what you have written is.

You dont need tomworry about SS infact you will gain more support in never taking that abusive person back again by contacting them yourself.

He had sex with you whilst you slept

THAT is not normal in a happy relationship.

I'm so pleased you have MN.

FarBetterNow · 08/06/2013 07:30

Yoni: This is the start of you getting your new life.

You have started to realise that his behaviour is very bad and it is not your fault.

This is the start of your life being about you (and your little ones).

You are so lovely and caring you deserve someone the same.

Best wishes to you.
x

ifindoubtnamechange · 08/06/2013 09:42

Life will be so much better when you aren't stuck with a rapist for a partner.

Love doesn't make you feel fearful, and trapped and ground down. Right now you can't see the wood for the trees. When you are away from him you'll feel freer.

For your sake,and for your children, get help, and leave.

Vivacia · 08/06/2013 09:42

How are you Yoni?

(I'm concerned because we know her partner is aware of this thread).

garlicgrump · 08/06/2013 18:13

"my parents totally understood which I wasn't expecting. They said it was a symptom and not the problem."

Yippee! Your parents understand!

My hackles started rising when you wrote how you've been trying to spice things up, to get his sexual interest, when your baby's only seven weeks old. Your partner should be all about fetching you cups of tea at this stage, not making you feel sexually inadequate. He seems to have very little comprehension that women are actually people, not sex toys.

Of course, what I read after that only got worse :(

You sound utterly fab, by the way! It might be a good idea to take DC to your parents' for a bit, to rest up and think straight.

babadabadoo · 08/06/2013 19:38

if you are 23 how old is he?

overture · 09/06/2013 00:00

"(I'm concerned because we know her partner is aware of this thread)."

Hope you are ok Yoni

foreverondiet · 09/06/2013 00:55

I hate porn too - but I accept that my DH might use it from time to time - prefer if I never see it though. I think yab a little unfair to ban it - but there was other stuff in your op that was worrying so not really sure what to say.

5madthings · 09/06/2013 01:03

How about you read the thread and the ops subsequent posts forever?!!

And actually any person has the right to say that they will not tolerate porn use in a retationship.

overture · 09/06/2013 01:05

wtf Forever......

garlicgrump · 09/06/2013 01:24

Are you still here, OP? (I don't mean at this minute.)

Nobody will take your DC away from you. It's okay to ring Women's Aid just to talk. They can also give you definite advice if you want it, and referrals.

Wishing you well.

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 09/06/2013 09:22

The OP has not been at at all unfair, Foreveronadiet. And this guy is way out of line. OP, your kids will not be taken away. Ring Women's Aid and they will listen and reassure you.

foreverondiet · 09/06/2013 22:54

I don't think banning your DH from masturbating / porn is a great idea - unless you willing to have a lot of sex.

I also can't bear porn but think its a little bit unreasonable to ban it - because I wouldn't want say my DH to ban me from using a vibrator if I wanted to.

However as I said there were a lot if other worrying things in the op which I thought far more problematic than the porn - eg cheating, interest in anal sex when he knew you hated it/ lack of support.

That all bring said you have small baby and potential pnd so not a good idea to do anything rash. Clearly need space from him and counselling. I think if he had cheated on you with someone else I'd say leave him now - but I think better to get over the pnd first to get some perspective.

5madthings · 09/06/2013 22:57

forever read the b,moody thread, she doesn't need perspective she needs to leave, this a,n is abusive and a rapist! Offs

And I repeat any person can say no to porn, of can and is a deal breaker to some, and no-one has to accept a relationship with someoen that uses porn. But tbh the porn is the tip of the iceberg here, this man is abusive and has raped the op.

cjel · 09/06/2013 23:06

forever How can you so blindly miss the facts? op has been raped in her sleep by a man who lies and deliberatly does things to her knowing that because of previous abuse op finds really distressing? Even if she has pnd which is very doubtful, far more likely that it is this abuse that she has posted about thats causing her to feel low? also you using a vibator is nothing like watching people who are probably being abused in porn.

OP your feelings are right and normal for your situation. Don't waste t ime thinking any thoughts that you have pnd and if healed of that you will be able to accept t his apaling treatment. You already knw its wrong, it is time for you to consider what you want to do about it.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

AnyFucker · 09/06/2013 23:45

forever for fucks sake have some carbs or summat, will ya

your post is damaging and liable to make a vulnerable woman accept more shit treatment she doesn't deserve

sweetiepie1979 · 10/06/2013 00:13

Oh my god he tryed to have sex with you while you were sleeping!!! That's so creepy please please get him out of your life I wouldn't have that man in my house he sounds like such a horrible little bastard who has a lot of sexual fuck ups half of which you probably don't even know about yet. Awh yuck good luck op. put the wine down, sober the fuck up and kick him out.

RaRaZ · 10/06/2013 10:56

OP , are you ok??? I mean, obviously not given all that's happened to you, but you seem quiet.... I hope it's because you've gone to seek help to get away from this man. You deserve far better and I wish you all the strength in the world to go get it.

cjel · 10/06/2013 15:20

my dear yoni, are you ok. Still thinking of you. take care of yourselfxxxx

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