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woke up to find dh playing with me

122 replies

overreaction · 28/05/2013 10:51

I have name changed for this. It may be normal for other couples but its not for us & I need to work out if I overreacted. Woke up to find my legs spread apart & dh playing with my clit. He said he thought I was awake & I led him on. I said I thought what he was doing was weird as I was clearly asleep. He has tried this a couple of times before. He got in a mood & slept on the sofa. I dont want to lose our relationship but I feel slightly violated. What do I do? What do I say? Did I over react?

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overreaction · 28/05/2013 19:58

I'm trying to think back over the 14 years we have been together to see what I have blocked outSad

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BabyHMummy · 28/05/2013 20:09

overreaction I am so sorry to read this post. I had this done to me by an ex and I am sorry to say the police class this as rape. You in no way consented and had previously made it clear that this was unacceptable when he had tried before so he had zero cause to believe it was ok.

My ex tried to blame me saying that because I hadn't protested I had led him on...I was asleep ffs...I woke up as he was trying to force his penis inside me. This is not the behaviour of someone who loves or respects you.

You have posted he had tried before and I assure you he will try again. I am not saying report to cops (i didn't) but for the love of god please get yourself some advice from the various rape charities about your options, and for your own safety please consider asking him to move out for a few days to give you head space to think.

ImperialBlether · 28/05/2013 20:14

The fact he blamed you for leading him on ramps it up to another level.

What do you think would happen if you hadn't woken up? Do you think his intention was to wake you or was he happy to leave you sleeping?

perfectstorm · 28/05/2013 20:18

(Anyfucker my feeling is certain posters are too cheap to call a sex line and share their pitifully mundane fantasies with someone actually paid to tolerate their nonsense, imaginary silk smalls and all. Sad, really.)

On topic:

No-one should feel bad because they have a lower sex drive/less adventurous tastes. And equally no-one should feel bad because they have a higher sex drive/more adventurous tastes.

Unless obtained in advance, or in a context of established trust, a sleeping person cannot consent. She did not want him to do this and she'd made that plain when he'd done such things before. He wasn't trying to awaken her for mutual, consensual sex, which is what (I profoundly hope Hmm) you're talking about; he was availing himself of her body for his own needs. What this man has repeatedly done constitutes a serious sexual offence in every nation with whose criminal law I am familiar. If you think sexual assaults aren't something people "should feel bad" for, you greatly disturb me. There is a gulf between desiring something and just taking it from someone without the least concern for their feeings or wishes, or even bare consent. He should be on the sex offender's register from what the OP has typed here, not in his victim's bed.

OP this thread has creeped me out more than any other on Mumsnet. Please, please at least call Women's Aid - number at the top of the thread - and have a chat about your feelings. This is not normal, and nor is casually telling you that "he knows it's wrong after checking Mumsnet". He sexually assaulted you, became angry when you complained, and then stalked you? The mention of MN is scary in this context, I'm sorry but I think it is. He seems to have no boundaries or basic respect at all.

I have to ask - do you think the relationship being modelled is one you would be happy for your own kids to repeat in their own future lives?

AnyFucker · 28/05/2013 20:20

Does he know you use Mumsnet ? Does he know about this thread ? What about your log in/password ?

comedycentral · 28/05/2013 20:37

This is awful. Your username is all wrong too!!

overreaction · 28/05/2013 20:43

I don't know what to do.

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perfectstorm · 28/05/2013 20:45

Love, this is Women's Aid. Just call them and talk. See what support from them can offer - get your own feelings straight in your head. You deserve that, and so do your kids.

AnyFucker · 28/05/2013 20:50

I second a call or email to Women's Aid.

Or Rape Crisis here

Name change if he knows your MN log in and post again in a different place. PM me if you don't know what I mean. By making it clear he knows all about the support available on MN, he is attempting cut off a line of support for you.

itsMYNutella · 28/05/2013 20:51

Op, you have to do your utmost best to put yourself first here. I understand it isn't easy when there are DCs involved and if you have been with him for 14 years you might be used to keeping the peace and not rocking the boat.
Please, please talk to women's aid or similar organisation. There are women there who have been through similar relationships and talking to them might make you understand that this isn't normal behaviour and if it isn't making you happy you do not have to put up with it.

Remember, you are important, your opinions and feelings are important and you need to listen to them and follow them.

If your DH's behaviour disturbed you enough to bring you here to post then you already know something is wrong. It does not sound at all healthy to me.

overreaction · 28/05/2013 21:03

Thank you all. He will be home soon.

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overreaction · 28/05/2013 21:33

You know it's funny. I'm the first one to help a friend in a LTB situation but when it's your own situation it's not so easy at all.Sad

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DioneTheDiabolist · 28/05/2013 21:58

No. It's not easy at all.Sad. So you need time and space to think about and process what has happened.

Fluffycloudland77 · 28/05/2013 22:00

It's always easier to say it than do it though.

WhiteYFronts · 28/05/2013 22:34

I'm so sorry you've been through this and it is causing you to doubt yourself so much. I've been in relationships when one tries to encourage the saucy wake up, it normally involves kissing, a bit of nuzzling and if you don't wake up or don't want it then that's fine no pressure, we can all try our luck without pushing acceptable boundaries.

Decent men don't go straight in to try and get a shag regardless and most are decent. I was raped by an ex, I accept that now. At the time I struggled due to the way so many women are conditioned to accept blame. I woke up and he was having sex with me, he moved me around like I was a rubber doll. At the time I blamed myself but looking back there is no way he could have thought it was consensual, I was dry to the point of pain and initially after waking up just lay there dumbly trying to figure out what the hell was happening. Then I acted as so many of us have been conditioned too, I felt I was at fault and as it had got this far it was clearly due to me and I hadn't said no after all. So I faked it repeatedly in the hope of bringing it to an end and felt worthless for a long time after.

One thing that has confirmed to me that he knew what he did was wrong was the way he went on and on about that night and how I loved it and was begging for it. Lying mute and dry whilst staring up in shock for a good five minutes is not begging for anything.

Stupidly I was about to dump him and actually stayed longer after he raped me. It was mind control, he was trying to confuse me and also show me who was in charge. I'm eternally grateful I left the rapist bastard.

Of course cos I dumped him he became a devoted pariah only wanting to make me happy whilst I became an evil cheating bitch. Thank god I now longer care what him and his friends think and have enough respect for myself to say never again.

Vegehamwidge · 28/05/2013 22:54

It scares me that there are men out there who thinks it's fine to rape their sleeping partners. Awful and oddly cowardly.

OP I hope you will be OK and that you will give Women's Aid a call.

overreaction · 28/05/2013 23:53

Thank you. I won't have a moment to myself to ring them. I want to talk to him. He has said he's apologised & I shouldn't keep talking about it but now I have the odd feeling he's done it before. I want to confront him without him turning it around. I feel so stupid now looking back. I will never be able to trust him in my bed again. That is such a sad realisation.

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AnyFucker · 28/05/2013 23:56

indeed it is

the one person you make yourself so vulnerable in front of...and he trashes that trust for his own selfish whims

tallwivglasses · 29/05/2013 00:04

Just caught up with this thread Shock You keep talking about it all you want OP. Does he think you should have got over it by now? Bleugh.

JumpingJackSprat · 29/05/2013 00:10

I second seeking advice from womens aid or rape crisu
is. dont rush yourself in comibg to terms with what he has done to you. its not your fault and you are not over reacting.

ethicaljamrag · 29/05/2013 00:11

'He says it's down to me to initiate things future so he knows he's not getting it wrong.'
No- it's not just down to you. Sex is consensual between the 2 of you. How can an adult not trust himself to know if you want sex? That response is as irritating as him stropping off. He's abdicating responsibility for his own behaviour again.

Wuldric · 29/05/2013 00:28

I don't know if this is odd - I'm guessing by the reaction on here that it is slightly odd. Which by definition makes me odd because I'd just think it was yummy.

AnyFucker · 29/05/2013 00:29

yummy ? Confused

Darkesteyes · 29/05/2013 00:31

Wuldric have you posted on the wrong thread

Wuldric · 29/05/2013 00:35

Sorry, OP. It's just that I'm almost always up for it Blush

I did say that I had worked out that I was the odd one out.