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Am I being unreasonable to be falling in love in this situation?

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NotDead · 20/05/2013 17:15

Hello,

I am a bloke asking for advice. I am confused by the signals from a woman I have always fancied, but with whom we have set our relationship up as almost friends, but with a tension in it that just doesn't fit friendship. She is 15 years younger than me and I first met her when she was about 21. I liked her very much the first time we talked, but I was always very conscious of a professional relationship between us. We chatted away and got on about things that are rare for me to share with people. She is not the type who jumps into relationships - in fact she had a 6 year relationship with someone who seemed dramatically unlike the person one would expect her to be with (she is really interesting, into alternative music and dressing differently - he was Mr straight and dull) She is the type to talk a great deal about sex with me - certain things I would like to try, she would also like to try. I, of course, am desperate to do them with her, and yet she seems more generally interested. Try as I might to be sensitive about entering into physical contact, though, she seems to give me so few signals that I can never be sure whether she wants anything from me or not, but I am crazy about her. Partly I know this is down to my tendency to only really make a move on women when I am a few glasses down - whereas I think she sees being too drunk as a less genuine state and so that situation - of mutual inhibition loss - is less likely. I worried that the age gap was too much and so was always looking for signals from her. These seem to come partially - in the sense we talk online after long gaps of not seeing or speaking to each other - but not fully - in the sense that when we meet, I am dying to make physical contact/kiss etc, but we never do. I saw her for a weekend recently and she said beforehand that she would put me up in her living room. Perhaps I was being too gentlemanly but when we got back I said I was happy with that, but in reality I wanted desperately to spend the night in her bed with her - though I know getting it together with someone you really like as opposed to just vaguely fancy is always difficult and probably more so with this age gap.

Our relationship in between these meetings got a bit distant partly because of geographical distance, and partly because of lot of negative stuff in my life that meant I found it difficult to share. With her, I felt that the last things she needed was a friend with difficulties. I have noticed though that as soon as she split up with her long term boyfriend, she contacted me - but I was deep in family bereavement and unable to really connect with anyone.

In that interim time, to my sadness and yes, jealousy, I found that she had been dating someone older than me. This made me feel so sad, as it sort of suggested a. that age wasn't the issue I thought and b that perhaps our 'thing' had opened up the possibility of older men to her.

On our last meet-up - ostensibly as friends - when I look back, she asked me how many people I have slept with, we talked about how she wants a baby before she is 30, about where her career might go and about how my being in a good relationship could help me get what I want out of life - all things that on reflection sound so much like she wants me too that the lack of signals I can trust just confuses me more. I sometimes wonder if I have been spoilt by seeing women who are more confident about approaching men.

Anyway, the thing is that after our last weekend together I was both incredibly sad to be leaving her, but also elated. I finally realised that I was falling in love with her - or at least, I was finding it hard not to want to talk to her every five minutes - I have thought about her every day since. I kinda broke discipline and confessed to her that I fantasise about her sexually - partly because I know she has particular fantasies that we discussed - but partly because I think a conventional 'love' approach might be too uncomfortable for her - but secretly I have more fantasies like this than I do sexual ones. I think that through this, and some silly self-ridiculing boasting when we first met, she thinks me not serious. I suspect also that some of her male friends have warned her off me - but with their own agenda. I don't really know what advice I am looking for, but I can't work her out and perhaps you can help me? Of course, in the state I am in, not being able to work her out makes me giddy with even more appreciation for her - I've got it bad haven't I?!:)

Any advice seriously welcome. :(

OP posts:
NotDead · 26/05/2013 18:05

Always with the sniping BOF ..are you ok hun?

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BOF · 26/05/2013 18:07

Oh, bore off, would you? Nobody cares.

TippiShagpile · 26/05/2013 18:08

Evacuate the building, don't stop to collect your belongings. Do not panic.

NotDead · 26/05/2013 18:10

oops! ;)

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reelingintheyears · 26/05/2013 18:26

Blimey OP,you've got some stamina

This has been going for ages. Sad

ArtexMonkey · 26/05/2013 18:28

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AmazingBouncingFerret · 26/05/2013 18:37

Are you Gilderoy Lockhart?

Veryunsure · 26/05/2013 18:48

I only made it to page 4..In case you hadn't realised many many women on here take the direct approach and that goes for many other women that aren't on here! Stop buggering around and tell her not that you want to put your purple headed womb broom in her fanjo how you feel only then will you know the answer to your question.

All the advice in the world won't help if you're not actually telling the person directly involved and that's her. Be honest about your feelings that's all you can do, the ball is then in her court. But tbh by now you've taken so long she's probably married and expecting!

Wahla · 26/05/2013 18:55

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PusscatAndTiger4Eva · 26/05/2013 19:59

Are you Gilderoy Lockhart? Grin

HAVE YOU ASKED HER YET OP or is she imaginary ?

Sunnywithshowers · 26/05/2013 20:00

Wahla

GET ON WITH IT YOU FEATHERY STROKER

BinarySolo · 26/05/2013 22:11

This is the most self indulgent twoddle I heard in quite some time. It feels like each post should begin with 'dear diary'. If you come across this way in real life then I'm surprised any women ever dated you. However 'girls' may see you as a kindred spirit as you seem to have the same approach to relationships as hormonal teenage girls.

Really, take the advice. Man up and just ask her FFS.

Sunnywithshowers · 26/05/2013 22:54

Grin Binary

NotDead · 26/05/2013 23:43

:) you have such great opinions! thank-you!

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Sunnywithshowers · 26/05/2013 23:48

So NotDead have you asked her out yet?

Sh1ney · 26/05/2013 23:51

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Sunnywithshowers · 26/05/2013 23:52

Who are you speaking to Sh1ney?

LadyBeagleEyes · 27/05/2013 00:02

You can't guess, Sunny?
Have you read the thread?

pegwin · 27/05/2013 00:05

shiney Grin

MumofMinx · 27/05/2013 00:24

'Purple headed womb broom'! Grin. Not sure I can finish this thread - am camping and waking people up laughing like a loon

Sunnywithshowers · 27/05/2013 00:38

LadyBeagle I thought I'd check, just in case...

mrsdrew · 27/05/2013 09:09

Oh God is this still going on? Man up Tinkerbell. And please, please, please don't tell us how it goes.

WarmFuzzyFun · 27/05/2013 09:14

Grin @ mrsdrew

Downfall · 27/05/2013 10:38

Actually OP you're probably probably wise to be thinking about your pension, coz at this rate you'll be claiming it by the time you ask this gal out.

ZZZenagain · 27/05/2013 10:50

been thinking about this and I don't know just how long these two have been friends. First she was in a relationship and now she isn't. If she has been out of this relationship for some time then I think you can assume she is not interested in a romantic involvement with you otherwise it would have happened. If she is fresh from that relationship break-up, you will just have to brave it and make your feelings known. Why can't you meet her and tell her that after your weekend together, you realise you are falling in love with her?