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Am I being unreasonable to be falling in love in this situation?

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NotDead · 20/05/2013 17:15

Hello,

I am a bloke asking for advice. I am confused by the signals from a woman I have always fancied, but with whom we have set our relationship up as almost friends, but with a tension in it that just doesn't fit friendship. She is 15 years younger than me and I first met her when she was about 21. I liked her very much the first time we talked, but I was always very conscious of a professional relationship between us. We chatted away and got on about things that are rare for me to share with people. She is not the type who jumps into relationships - in fact she had a 6 year relationship with someone who seemed dramatically unlike the person one would expect her to be with (she is really interesting, into alternative music and dressing differently - he was Mr straight and dull) She is the type to talk a great deal about sex with me - certain things I would like to try, she would also like to try. I, of course, am desperate to do them with her, and yet she seems more generally interested. Try as I might to be sensitive about entering into physical contact, though, she seems to give me so few signals that I can never be sure whether she wants anything from me or not, but I am crazy about her. Partly I know this is down to my tendency to only really make a move on women when I am a few glasses down - whereas I think she sees being too drunk as a less genuine state and so that situation - of mutual inhibition loss - is less likely. I worried that the age gap was too much and so was always looking for signals from her. These seem to come partially - in the sense we talk online after long gaps of not seeing or speaking to each other - but not fully - in the sense that when we meet, I am dying to make physical contact/kiss etc, but we never do. I saw her for a weekend recently and she said beforehand that she would put me up in her living room. Perhaps I was being too gentlemanly but when we got back I said I was happy with that, but in reality I wanted desperately to spend the night in her bed with her - though I know getting it together with someone you really like as opposed to just vaguely fancy is always difficult and probably more so with this age gap.

Our relationship in between these meetings got a bit distant partly because of geographical distance, and partly because of lot of negative stuff in my life that meant I found it difficult to share. With her, I felt that the last things she needed was a friend with difficulties. I have noticed though that as soon as she split up with her long term boyfriend, she contacted me - but I was deep in family bereavement and unable to really connect with anyone.

In that interim time, to my sadness and yes, jealousy, I found that she had been dating someone older than me. This made me feel so sad, as it sort of suggested a. that age wasn't the issue I thought and b that perhaps our 'thing' had opened up the possibility of older men to her.

On our last meet-up - ostensibly as friends - when I look back, she asked me how many people I have slept with, we talked about how she wants a baby before she is 30, about where her career might go and about how my being in a good relationship could help me get what I want out of life - all things that on reflection sound so much like she wants me too that the lack of signals I can trust just confuses me more. I sometimes wonder if I have been spoilt by seeing women who are more confident about approaching men.

Anyway, the thing is that after our last weekend together I was both incredibly sad to be leaving her, but also elated. I finally realised that I was falling in love with her - or at least, I was finding it hard not to want to talk to her every five minutes - I have thought about her every day since. I kinda broke discipline and confessed to her that I fantasise about her sexually - partly because I know she has particular fantasies that we discussed - but partly because I think a conventional 'love' approach might be too uncomfortable for her - but secretly I have more fantasies like this than I do sexual ones. I think that through this, and some silly self-ridiculing boasting when we first met, she thinks me not serious. I suspect also that some of her male friends have warned her off me - but with their own agenda. I don't really know what advice I am looking for, but I can't work her out and perhaps you can help me? Of course, in the state I am in, not being able to work her out makes me giddy with even more appreciation for her - I've got it bad haven't I?!:)

Any advice seriously welcome. :(

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confusedisitme · 25/05/2013 12:59

I know someone mentioned this up thread but you don't work in a primary school do you?

NotDead · 25/05/2013 13:09

No! Do you think I'm after one of the mums.. cheek!

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NotDead · 25/05/2013 13:11

oh or the teachers.. well perhaps thats not too bad.. why? is there someone after you who works at a primary school?

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SacreBlue · 25/05/2013 13:14

Grin turkey you so have hit the nail on the head with guy I knew and he spouted all the same bs OP is doing. He was a silly old fart trying to recapture his youth manipulate anyone stupid naive enough to fall for his supposedly 'romantic' ramblings

He obviously spent too long in the fairy tale section of the library.

DiaryOfAWimpyMum · 25/05/2013 13:17

So how do you dress differently then?

I always look at the shoes myself, what do you wear on your feet?

NotDead · 25/05/2013 13:55

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NotDead · 25/05/2013 13:59

and fwiw my last fling was with a person 20 years my senior.. this is not about age or figure or intellectual mismatch.. I really like her.. perhaps that s weird, but I just dont thinks so. mind you this is good practice for RL characatures and jealousies. . Grin

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MyPreciousRing · 25/05/2013 14:16

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NotDead · 25/05/2013 14:29

:) I wish I was that kinky! ;)

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BOF · 25/05/2013 14:37

This just gets better. In a teetering-on-the-brink-of-a-bit-scary way.

NotDead · 25/05/2013 15:01

mmm I can just imagine me in tight stay-prest, pulled up white socks as x licks my wee tassles! a new direction for mr ND Smile

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NotDead · 25/05/2013 15:02

can I double-entry your bookkeeping young lady..etc ;)

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NotDead · 25/05/2013 15:04

oh thats it..im so over her! ;) bring on the shop assistants!

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Mollydoggerson · 25/05/2013 15:19

get off the internet and ask her out already.

turkeyboots · 25/05/2013 15:31

sacrebleu OP is giving me flash backs to the 30 plus year olds who used to hang out at the teenage rock night. let me show you my Sisters of Mercy vinyl collection

NotDead · 25/05/2013 15:34

I am on the internet. photoshopping her face onto bridalwear pictures its tres therapeutic haha

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Mollydoggerson · 25/05/2013 15:36

haha, btw I think you are very funny and dealing with all the bashing very well, I'm sure she does fancy you, just get on with it.

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NotDead · 25/05/2013 16:10

thanks mollyd..:) it has been tough ;)

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ZZZenagain · 25/05/2013 16:19

for some reason I think you must be libra

Listen, perhaps I am a bit more basic in my emotions but I don't see why you can't just be straight forward and move in. Next time she starts talking about her sexual fantasies, lean over and kiss her. You can hover a second or so giving her a chance to withdraw.

Just do it, I wouldn't want a man to talk to me too much about his feelings and how he sees me as a long term partner. Later on, ok but first I want excitement, tingling, thrills

ZZZenagain · 25/05/2013 16:25

could someone please explain egg sacking

NotDead · 25/05/2013 16:36

I get that.. the early thrills.. and you are right I should have been more direct. I am kicking myself that I didn't. . it could just as easily be that she is now thinking I cant believe it..do me already and I am thinking ..ooh is she really into this or not? I guess my last things have been with more flirty direct women who probably were just enjoying me for sex.. I can't remember the last time strong feelings came into it. Its sad but true that I have sort of ended up as the recreational guy when I want to be the commited guy (NOT in a mental institution way comedians out there Wink

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chibi · 25/05/2013 17:04

ugh this thread

reading all this shite gave me brain herpes i'm sure of it

grossgrossgrossgrossgross

confusedisitme · 25/05/2013 17:06

I still think you're the guy I mentioned in my thread...