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I'm not even sure where to start

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catgirl1976 · 19/05/2013 10:56

DH and I have been together about 15 years, married for 5. We have a DS aged 18 months.

About 3 years ago, DH lost his job. Since then he hasn't worked. This had some positives around us having a child as it meant he got to spend a lot of time with him etc. He is an excellent father and adores DS.

However, DH has steadily become more depressed and isolated over the 3 years. He is now at the point where he has no job, no friends, no social life, never goes out, never wants to do anything and his confidence is at rock bottom. His family live 300 miles away and he is not hugely close to any of them.

For a long time I have been trying to get him to go to the GP but he won't. He has a history of depression since childhood. He is clearly depressed. He also drinks way too much.

We have had relationship problems for a while. I work FT. DH doesn't work at all. He looks after DS two days a week whilst I am at work but the other three DS is in childcare or at my mums so he is in the house on his own all day. He doesn't do much in the way of house work at all, or look for jobs, just plays PC games. This has caused on-going issues between us as I am exhausted. I get up with DS 6 days a week and he had been going through a really early waking stage. The split of things has been really unfair and it has been getting on top of me.

This came to a head on Friday night. DH and I had watched a film and shared some wine. I had been up since 6:30am and at work all day. DH get pressuring me to stay up later and later to have some 'time with him'. We eventually went to bed about 1:30am and I was exhausted and knowing I would have to get up with DS.

DS woke about 3am. I tried to wake DH to go and settle him as I was too tired and would have to get up with him in a couple of hours. I couldn't wake DH because he was drunk. I have no excuse for this but I lost the plot and started hitting DH (lying down in bed, sort of flailing at him IYSWIM). DH did wake up, settled DS but we had a huge row and all my built up resentment came out.

The next morning, I got up with DS about 7:30. DH woke up about 9:30 and decided he wanted access to my facebook account. I refused for a bit but the row became intense and DS was there so I gave him my password.

DH went through all my e-mails. I have been in contact with my ex for several years and we keep in touch via e-mail and play Scabble on facebook. DH has know about this and has been ok with it. However, in my e-mails there was (several months ago) a period where my ex and I exchanged a few very emotional emails regarding our break up. (It was messy and I had an abortion). There was no suggestion in these e-mails we wanted to get back together (we don't), but they were emotional and personal. The rest of the e-mails are pretty banal (how's work etc). There is no sexual content in them, although we might have some carry on style banter when playing scrabble (e.g, you came first again? You've not changed etc). Childish and I will admit it is sort of flirty but there is no intent behind it on either side.

The last couple of e-mails between us however have cause an issue. I was in London the other week which is where my ex works. We vaguely made noises about meeting up for a coffee although in the end neither of us could manage it as our schedules clashed. My meeting got moved when I was down there so I e-mailed my ex and said "I could meet you for lunch today". He emails back he couldn't as he had been caught up. End of. He emailed me later that night when he was on his train home asking what I was going to do in London that evening and I replied I hadn't decided and was at a loose end as I was on my own

DH took those to mean we HAD met up. I think he now accepts we didn't but the is still furious that I did not tell him. I said there was nothing to tell him as we didn't meet up. He thinks I should have told him I was planning to (but I wasn't as we already knew we couldn't meet up due to both being too busy). If I had told DH we would have told me I couldn't and it would have caused a huge row, so given we didn't meet I didn't think there was anything to tell.

DH went ballistic and smashed up the house. I had to get my parents to come and take DS to the park. We had a huge row.

We have managed to talk and get to a point where we are talking and DH has agreed to go to the GP on Monday (I had phoned 111 at one point as he was talking about killing himself but he wouldn't speak to them or go to hospital). DH has also agreed to go to relationship counseling. We have both agreed we want to fix things. DH is in a sate and has been sobbing a lot. I am very worried about him. He has changed my facebook log in so he has my password and set it so he gets an email on any activity and this morning I noticed he has been playing Scrabble against my ex on my log in (so pretending to be me) which is just weird.

I am sorry this is so long and I don't even know what I am asking. I want to fix things but I don't know where to start. DH is still furious with me and saying he can't trust me, I feel like he is trying to create an issue to distract from the real problems, but he has agreed to the GP and counselling and also agrees he wants to fix things. He is so depressed though and has been crying saying he's scared he isn't capable of changing or getting better

I really don't know what to do. If anyone has any advice it would be great. Thank you.

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RhondaJean · 19/05/2013 18:07

He's doing much much better.

If you need to chat any time, feel free to pm me x

catgirl1976 · 19/05/2013 18:08

Thank you x I will

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lollydollydrop · 19/05/2013 18:10

I think it would be a good idea for him to take recovery into his own hands also perhaps by helping himself.. (especially if he has to wait for help, but regardless, he can start to improve NOW, and all the angles of treatment will help you both)

I can really recommend the Overcoming series- it helped me with eating disorders and their Depression book is CBT based which is excellent for depression:

www.amazon.co.uk/Overcoming-Depression-Cognitive-Behavioural-Techniques/dp/1849010668/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368982703&sr=1-1&keywords=overcoming+depression

Hope that link works if not search for Overcoming Depression on Amazon.

As I found out from my own recovery from ED's, you can make recovery a fun thing. Different exercises and interesting activites, honestly taking control of my own recovery was crucial. I even made my own 'Recovery book' whereby I completed exercises, stuck pictures and old cards/letters etc. Your DH could do the same, e.g. Pictures of the two of you happy together before the depression hit, pictures of your new born, a letter from you to him, exercises such as a list of things he is thankful for, what he likes about himself, why he loves you, what his hopes are for the future etc. It can be a source of inspiration.

There are also free online resources for CBT over the internet maybe you want to look into. I would guard against online groups/forums though just from my experience they can be negative places that bring you down further- I would want to check the tone of them first!!

CoalDustWoman · 19/05/2013 20:47

That sounds like a productive start, catgirl. Let's see if he walks the talk.

Mind if I share a couple of links that may or may not help?

This one in case he doesn't make the strides you hope

and

This one that might help you step back a bit

They are from a site that is for friends and families of alcoholics, but I think they apply whenever there has been enabling going on, which you admit. In fact, there are loads of sticky posts on that site that might make interesting reading for you.

You both need to make some big changes to how you live your lives, both individually and together. You know that. Hope this weekend is the start of something better.

ChippingInLovesSpring · 19/05/2013 22:25

Catgirl best of luck, but please take care x

MrsVamos · 19/05/2013 22:30

catgirl

Big hugs xxx

imaginethat · 19/05/2013 23:54

catgirl that is a fantastic list. If your dh goes through with all that, he will definitely start to get better. And you will feel some relief at him taking responsibility.

However... you need to take a few steps back. This is his illness and you are his partner, not his doctor or therapist. You cannot make him better, he has to do the bulk of this on his own.

Selba · 20/05/2013 00:17

Cat, you are a far better woman than me . Good luck.

BigBlockSingsong · 20/05/2013 00:25

God big hugs this sounds awful, from his pov I can see why he exploded at those emails I would ask my do to leave if I came across that not be violent though. However I'm surprised you haven't told him its over now he's practically spying on you.

ike1 · 20/05/2013 01:23

Good luck.

catgirl1976 · 20/05/2013 08:38

Thank you all so much Thanks

lolly those links are really useful - thank you x

He has an appointment for 10:25 this morning so hopefully we are on the path to getting things better

Thank you all for you support - it really is a huge help and a source of support x

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CoalDustWoman · 20/05/2013 20:20

Hope it went well today. No need to report back, just wanted you to know you aren't forgotten.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 21/05/2013 00:17

Cat I hope it went ok today x

Jux · 21/05/2013 03:44

How did it go today? Hope you got help.

catgirl1976 · 21/05/2013 07:15

Hi

He went to the GP

He has a prescription for anti-depressants which he has started taking and a referral for a psychologist

We are talking so hopefully we are getting somewhere slowly

Thank you all again x

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HousewifeFromHeaven · 21/05/2013 07:21

Good luck op x

RhondaJean · 21/05/2013 07:31

Glad he's making moves cat.

You can't do it all.

Fingers crossed x

GlitteryShitandDanglyBaubles · 21/05/2013 07:36

That's great news catgirl, plenty of people (especially men!) would have been unable to do that!

I hope you can work it out and both be happier.

Stick with the AD's and the gp's advice, give them long enough to work even if there are some teething troubles while they 'kick in' and don't be afraid to ask for different doses / different meds if they aren't working and you've given them long enough.

AD's can mean some side effects at first, some fannying about, but blimey they are flippin marvellous when they do work - I know now that I've been depressed for the vast majority of my life and now thank's to AD's I get to live my life!

Keep talking together and mumsnet is always here for you. The people on the mental health and relationship boards are fricking amazing Smile Good luck honey

imaginethat · 26/05/2013 05:24

How are you catgirl?

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