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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Whacking The Wine Witch Round The Chops (With Barry The Squid).

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Mouseface · 01/05/2013 17:32

Hello, I'm Mouse :)

I'm one of the Brave Babes who's travelling on this wonderful, magical, mysterious Bus, trying to hold onto my sobriety for me, and for my family.

I do drink but thanks to this Bus, I've kicked the vodka addiction into touch and the evil WineWitch has been banished far, far away so I now drink in a controlled manner, One Day At A Time. :)

By that, I mean that just for today, I won't be drinking. Tomorrow, however, I will be because it's a very special occasion. The day after will be dealt with when I wake, and the day after that, the day after etc.....

We're a Bus filled with some fantastic posters, some who drink, some who don't touch a drop ever and some who are on/off drinkers who have lovely warm seats in the side-car, some are hanging onto the roof-rack by the tips of their fingers and trying their best to resist the dreaded WineWitch's charms night after night. But they are trying, and that's all that any of us can do, is keep trying, keep starting again!

So, if you think that you're drinking too much (you probably are) why not come and say hi? We won't bite - unless you ask very nicely, manners cost nothing Wink.

There's lots of seats so pick whichever one you like and have a Brew. Just jump in, we're not a judgemental pack of quiche makers Wink

And here's a bit of light reading for you.... our latest thread and the very first one, the reason we're all here.

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OP posts:
ThisIsMyTime · 17/05/2013 22:34

Just thought I'd share some news as I'm very proud I've got to the end of day 4 and not had a drink. I've not been able to get passed the dreaded day 4 in Yonks I'm not trying to stop all together but I do see this as progress. Purple I'm 26 and can remember writing poems like that wen I was 12 it's just an emotional time and most girlies learn how to be dramatic from an early age ( well I did any way) I'm sure she will be ok x

curiousinterloper · 17/05/2013 22:51

Hello, I'm curiousinterloper, looooooong-time lurker (think I caused aggro some time back so mainly lurk Blush)

41 in August, problem controlling alcohol since early 20s. Various liver function tests, none normal, but none awful.

Range from riding on the bus, to riding on the roof rack, to riding in the sidecar. Without checking into this thread though, I would most certainly have been in the sidecar all the time, so I'm happy and feel my life and expectations have changed hugely in the last year and a bit :)

You are all fantastic, wherever you all are in your bus journey.

Special shout out to Ma - you have been such an amazing sister to your DB. Sorry if that sounds a bit weird as you don't know me, but your love for all your family shines out.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 03:41

Hi everyone I thought to myself its v quiet ill do an update. It will be all me me me so before I start I want to say that I wish the best to you all and xxxx and hugs to all!!!

Now - me! This termination issue is affecting me really badly. Posting here has been a life saver and my only outlet. I have noone to tell it to or whinge about it and that drove me close to brrak down yesterday. My family are unavailable as mum v v ill and was close to dying recently. Shes now at home but with 24 hour care that im currently not infit state to help as much with. My sosters are all there but wont speak to me at all because im so upset over my own problems. They have a point but it came to be to much. To

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 03:53

To be honest I dont feel much use to anyone. I told my daughter shes in blasgow but no sympathy as her natural response was how will it effect her. Then a minor miracle. I was struggling badly and got txt from son to come and get him from his dads. We spent lovely enjoyable afternoon evening cooking dinner together and chatting it was so lovely and just what I needed. We make good team in kitchen and wamt to do it again regularly. He is adorable and caring giving lots of advice on how to buy things cheapily. He was affected most by divorce and I had walked out 5 yeats ago taking both kids with me but I was moving a lot from 1 rentrd to a other which didnt help he just wanted to live in 1 house so lives with his dad but comes here when he wants and im glad he

chose yestetday. He then headed nack at 10.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 04:05

Atm im working away as best I can. Theres a lot ok work ive done that needs flagged up now to project board as it will be sort of thing I will be told im not good at (so they can justify giving it to someone else) i have all the proof I am. At this point I am just maki g the poi t to them that I will not go quietly and make them think. Im hoping also it will make them improve there behaviour. Theres redundancy and constructive dismissal if they dont behave. The deep down rejection and hurt is modified by my current lack tespect for them. They're are doing this to someone who really doesnt deserve it.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 04:49

Purple - as promised an incident with dd comes to mind. Not identical but might be similarities. She was around 14 and I had just separated in a traumatic diff way and was also having bad work issues! (as usual!). She started getting this really bad shake and had all her friends convinced she was dying. She told them all she was related to stephen hawking and was coming down with his disease - funny if not so grim. She then collapsed on the stares and another time pretended that the car had run over her foot. With all these things I took her to hospital and realised that with all that was going on she wanted my attention and notice. Drs were wondering about her but could never find anything physically wrong. I learned to be with her and take her out and talk to her whenever possible. She still has tendency towards tall tales but I now put it down to creativity! Good luck with ur dd!! Ihope all is well.

lonnika · 18/05/2013 06:43

Good morning all,
Full hope you get it all sorted with your job -
curiousinterloper -hi - glad you have had a better last 18 months.
Ma - great news about Richard and your talented daughter.
Day 19 here :) - Today I will not be drinking :)
Going to go and buy myself something as a treat. Looking for some trousers - as I have lost weight - Yay

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 06:47

Morning ion and well done !!! I am so jealous. Had bottle ww last nite but enjoyed it as shared with son and had good company and needed it. I would love to be on day 19!

ohcluttergotme · 18/05/2013 07:03

Morning babes. Lonnika amazing that your on day 19, hope you enjoy shopping & get something nice.
Fullofhope so sorry that your having such a shitty time at work but sounds perfect timing for your ds coming over, sounds just what you needed Smile
Day 14 here, had major wobble last night. We had the nicest warmest day of the year & I felt such a strong urge for glass of wine. Really find the time 5 - 7 difficult as just past it with ds and felt a couple of glasses would make those 2 hours go by quicker. Played the movie through to the end & thought but then I'll give myself a whole day of it being really hard tomorrow & resisted. The sun was definitely a trigger for me last night.
Hope everyone has a good day today x

lonnika · 18/05/2013 07:14

Ah thanks full - not always been easy - but def getting easier.
Well done Ohclutter - 2 weeks:)

find Saturdays the most difficult day - but will take myself of to bed early if things get tough later on :)
Will let you know if I buy anything

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 07:18

Morning clutter Im going to try and get back on bus today with the inspiration of yourself and lonnika I will tjen feel great tomorrow. Its a v bad way to deal with stress!

greeneyed · 18/05/2013 08:25

Morning all. Well done to you brilliant babes abstaining. I'm in the sidecar again but feeling okay. Friends over tonight and I know I'll drink. Plan to make sure I intersperse with soft drinks and stop drinking at 10pm so I don't suffer tomorrow.

purple i second what's been said about teenage dramatics. I have a diary from when I was 14 it is so cringeworthy and dark at times. There is definately a suicide note in there. I also remember myself and a friend writing suicide notes to each other in a lesson. It must have been horrible to read but I'd try not to worry about it too much.

greeneyed · 18/05/2013 08:30

full today is a new day. If you really do not want to drink today, make a commitment and make a plan. I find it so much easier if I make a firm decision in the morning to not drink today, stops all the will I won't I thoughts in the afternoon which allow the wine witch to convince you it's a good idea. I then make a plan, i.e remove the alcohol from the house and plan what i will be doing instead when the WW calls. In my experience just thinking I'm going to try not to drink today just does not work.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 08:52

Green I definitely use it to release stress while knowing it wont help. Thx for advice im going to try a wee run during danger time also gym in afternoon reading book club book amd attacking the bathroom! (With cleaning stuff). I might even sort out clothes cupboards. Ive even cleaned all floors this , orning already! A bout of insomnia often helps!!!

dementedma · 18/05/2013 08:58

Great post full. Hang on to those good memories of your evening with Ds and know your family love you deeply as a person, its the alcohol driven behaviour they find hard to deal with. that is NOT you - that is the WW, the Demon. You sound like a great person having a shit time.
curious thank you Blush seem to have something in my eye...
Now, to make you all smile I am going to share a poem, written by DS for his grandma for her 78th birthday today (the reference to pie throwing is unfortunately a true story. She has fiery temper when roused)
"Everybody knows when she's near
With her smiling face and snow white hair
The kindest person you could ever know
But the occasional pie she will throw
Knives bent, phones broken
Full of love and opinions spoken
But still the best you could have as a family-lover
No-one beats our wonderful Grandmother.
Grin

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 09:05

No no ma-I dont behave badly with alcohol at all. At my worst I would simply fall asleep on my in living room. They also mostly all drink much more than me anyway. They are annoyed by what tjey see as my lack of assistance with mother but I am having such stressful time at work dont want to go over and upset them. I will make effort to go today thoigh.

dementedma · 18/05/2013 09:09

Ah, OK. Sorry. I misunderstood.
Do they know the full story of what you are dealing with and how much you are struggling?
Maybe going over to see her today will help ease things.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 09:18

Im worried about worrying her though. Shes in final stages of copd and needs to be my families priority. Past few days I couldnt have helped anyoneveben myself!! So my sisters annoyed. I will there this morning. They live beside her and I am far away they would like me to offer to move in but I cant commit to that especially feeling way I do.

guggenheim · 18/05/2013 10:06

Morning babes

fullof just keep talking on the bus, you can say anything here and people frequently do! I can see that life is really tough at the moment and the situation with work sucks. Maybe your managers suck too, now I think about it Grin

ma fab news on Richard, hope it's a bit of a turning point for him.Do you think that the life he used to lead contributed to his alcoholism? There must have been lots of pressure to drink and access to alcohol. Great news about your DD.

ionikka YAY!!!!!! Great news. You are through the worst of it and it does get easier and easier all the time. You deserve a treat, clever you. Smile

clutter yup, warm days make me fancy a glass or three as well. Don't love the hangover the following morning though! I'm sure that resisting like that makes you stronger and makes the ww fuck off a little further every time.

hi there curious keep posting.I have no idea what aggro you may/ may not have caused!!!! Lol.

purple What will you do? Will you ask dd about it or just keep an eye on the situation?

"lo there green hope you have a good evening and stick to your plan.

thisis Day 4 was always the place I couldn't get to,if that makes any kind of sense. I always fell down at day 2 or 3. Well done. What will you do now? Do you want to keep going and do a week? Sorry can't remember if you are stopping or controlling.

Righto, I had lots of wishes (not craving any more) for a glass of wine last night. I've had a week involving lots of family and that's enough to test the sobriety of a saint. I felt very sad and overworked and fed up this morning- bit tearful and wobbly.But at least I didn't have a massive headache,nausea,sweating,guilt etc etc. Right now I feel fine, I'm beginning to be able to feel and sort out my emotions after years and years of drowning them out with booze. I played with ds, told dh I needed some time to do somethings for myself (hence having time to post) and then made sure I took some time for myself. I don't want to end up drinking again so I have to look after my emotional health properly now. I love to say that I'm also thin,rich and clever since getting sober but I still seem to be 'working towards' those goals. Ahem.

Have a lovely sober saturday babes

guggenheim · 18/05/2013 10:09

OH fullof your sister can stay annoyed, that's her choice and you can't do anything about it. However, it doesn't mean she is right or that she can be nasty to you or that she can control your feelings in anyway at all.
Try not to think about what she feels, that's up to her and it may not be as bad as you think. good luck today Smile best wishes.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 10:13

Thx all!! And thank god for this bus and all of you!! Ps ive got 3 angry sisters!!!

lonnika · 18/05/2013 10:20

Guggenheim what a great uplifting post. Well done for last night :). Keep looking after yourself - You sound pretty fab and clever to me - it is really thnx to people like you that I have been able to stay strong - thanks to you all xxxxxx

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 12:32

Is it a bad sign to spend rainy sat afternoon sitting crying at the little princess??? Id better get over to mums and toughen up!!

guggenheim · 18/05/2013 13:07

Awwww ta ionnika I'm well impressed at your progress! What a fab babe. I was here for about a million months before I made it past one or two days.What a start you are Smile

Keep going and keep posting lovely x

fullof let them stay angry, you don't have to be. THAT will bug them beyond all endurance Grin sorry! erm... I mean they will have to cope with their own feelings all by themselves like the grown ups they are.

fullofhopefullness · 18/05/2013 16:22

Tbh im never angry I have however just this minute decided that it might be therapeutic!!! Im just back from there and would love to say this to them (isnt this forum brilliant for offloading the shit of years!!!!) - the 3 witches in macbeth have nothing on them!! They are ugly in spirit and nature and I absolutely refuse to take their shit any longer!!
Great - now I feel better :-)

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