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Thirty years

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fuckitybollocks · 16/04/2013 06:23

My husband had an affair 5 years ago. He has not been 'in love' with me since. I have really struggled, living with the man you love who does not feel the same way is soul destroying. We have two teenage children so at least we have been together with them. He would continue like this although he is not happy. He says he does not really know what he wants. At the weekend I told him I did not want to live with someone who dies not feel the same way about me. He says he loves me but cannot remember when he was in ,I've with me. He has a neurological issue which affects his memory especially biographical memory and that really does not help.

We are currently hiding the fact that one of us sleeps on the sofa from the children. I can't do that anymore as I have hurt my back. He has not done anything about finding somewhere to live. He does not really want to I don't think. He does not have someone else now, he hasn't for a long while so would prefer us to live together, us being all of us. I think he thinks I will capitulate and he will be able to stay with us for longer.

This is so very very hard. I am crying at times, not when the children are around, he hugs me. He hates seeing me upset. He says he loves me, cares for me. When he had his girlfriend he experienced that infatuated soul mate type relationship. Of course a wife of 30 years cannot match that. He does not value that total love and loyalty that comes with time and family. He says he does not think about me and look forward to seeing me. I know he would stay if he could, he does not really want to have all the hassle if finding somewhere to live etc and he does want to be with children. I am so lonely. Being friends sleeping together (he does not want sex with me often at all) is so souk destroying. I don't blame him for not wanting me, I smell of fags and he hates that, I have always smoked but the smell of me has become really horrid for him and I understand tht. I quit for nearly three months last year and am gearing up to try again. When I didn't smoke he did not want me more though.

This situation can't continue. One child is gearing up for his gcses next month. I do not want children to see this train wreck. I feel so pathetic and selfish messing things up because it is hard living with someone who is not in love with me. Until this crisis he has not told me he loves me at all for months. Valentines day for the first time was just a card. I had chosen a present or him. Two actually although one was not delivered in time.

When he has affair I did not cope. I was very depressed and ended up unable to work. I know I will not do that this time (although am off suck fir a few days while this back pain dies down). He does not respect me, I have behaved badly and been very weal and feeble. Not now though. I am never going into that depression again. I am very unhappy but not depressed and there us a big difference. He might be depressed though. He certainly feels as though there is little point o life.

I am not sure why I am writing this. What if anything anyone can say. I just feel so alone and a bit scared.

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BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 18/06/2013 20:03

((FlowersBearFlowers))

cjel · 18/06/2013 20:07

still with youxx

fuckitybollocks · 18/06/2013 20:55

Thank you everyone. Not telling boys tonight. Two reasons. I am very very tired which makes me more jowly to weep which would be exactly what I don't want. Also he has promised to find a property tomorrow so he can tell the boys what the plans are even though he will go to his mums at the weekend. We have had a pretty civilised conversation and talked a little about money etc. I have had to move away now but I did a while without having to worry that I round weep.

All in all. Still feel like I am deceiving boys but it feels utterly right. I really want to be able to point out the positives of this decision. I have a horrible feeling that next week I will crash good and proper but am hoping that thinking that keeps it away. I know that sounds irrational. Oh well!

And... In better news achieved a good section if work today. That feels very good.

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SlittySluttySlots · 18/06/2013 20:59

Hope it's going well and he doesn't twist anything more...

You can and will not only get past this but go from strength to strength! Thanks

Doha · 18/06/2013 20:59

Oh dear Fuckitybollocks l suspected there would be more delaying tactics.

Tomorrow he will not be able to find a suitable place to stay--nor the next day etc etc.

I do hope l am wrong but l fear l am not Sad

SlittySluttySlots · 18/06/2013 21:01

oops - cross posted! Glad to hear you're sounding more positive and i really hope you manage to talk to the boys together tomorrow and it goes well!

AgathaF · 18/06/2013 21:04

I can understand that you are tired - I can get emotional too when I am tired. It's good too that you have had a useful conversation with him and hopefully that has eased some of your worries. Good news about work too.

Don't let his lack of finding a property tomorrow delay things again though, will you?

cjel · 18/06/2013 21:04

sorry but your post sounded as if we'd tell you off!! sounds like a perfect plan to wait until he knows where he is going, very sensible.Of course that is on the understanding you don't let him delay again because he doesn't manage to find any where. if that happens tell the boys he is looking but nothing suitable is available so he is going to his mums.I wouldn't bank on the crash so soon either, its not inevitable and not all of us have crashes just a few tearful times for the loss of our dreams but huge peace and contentment the rest of the time.

fuckitybollocks · 18/06/2013 21:46

Doha. I hope you are wrong too!m I don't trust myself to behave. It is not all him. We are continuing to talk practicalities. I feel more in control than yesterday that is for sure.

Thanks for saying that about crashing. I do not have time to crash.

Here's hoping I will feel peace.

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cjel · 18/06/2013 22:44

you willx

AgathaF · 18/06/2013 22:45

I hope you will feel a lovely sense of peace too.

Fingers crossed he finds accommodation tomorrow, or you can at least tell the boys anyway and get that hurdle out of the way.

Sleep well.

Doha · 18/06/2013 22:46

I have my fingers and eyes crossed for you for tomorrow. I have been lurking for so long on this thread and am amazed how far you have come. One final push and you will be over the finishing line.
You deserve someone to love you, someone who wants to be with you not someone who only stays because he can't be arsed to find somewhere else. I still think he hopes that you will crash and change your mind tomorrow.
Don't you dare--or l will be the first in a long line of Mners waiting to kick your butt into action Smile.
When he is gone, the adrenaline that you have been thriving on will drop and you will crash a bit but l think the relief you will feel finally getting rid of all the uncertainty will balance that out.

Good luck, l am cheering you on from the sidelines

Jux · 18/06/2013 22:48

No telling off from me either, FB.

Just, once it has been done - telling the boys - you will almost certainly find your brain clears a lot and you will be able to go forward and be more definite with h. He will not be so able to play games with you and will have to take steps, albeit unwillingly, into the future.

Also, I am pretty sure that your boys know that something is happening, something big, and they, too, will be able to think more clearly free of the worry that not knowing brings. (Does that make sense? It's getting late and my brain stops functioning around now.)

I hope you sleep well, FB, and that you have a good day tomorrow and do manage to talk to the boys.

Well done on the work today, too.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 18/06/2013 23:05

Of course we're not here to tell you off. Only to confirm your decisions and encourage you in the right direction.
You're the one in the house, in front of your family, only you can choose the absolute right moment for YOU.
Very pleased for your achievement at work, amazing with all this going on in the background.
Imagine what you will be able to do when you feel free and secure and in control.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 18/06/2013 23:28

They've said it all ^^ you are on your way, have faith in yourself fuckity.

fuckitybollocks · 19/06/2013 06:34

Woken up feeling sad. There is no way back now though. Wedding anniversary Friday and that does not help. Am trying to get hold of brother before work.

Bit hungover too. Drinking has to stop. If for no other reason than teetotal husband will not be here to pick up or rescue boys. Still I slept solidly until 5.30 so will feel better today than yesterday.

I am so dreading telling boys. Older one will be fine. Younger prob ok although upset. Middle one will be devastated. I so hope husband has something concrete he can tell them.

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AgathaF · 19/06/2013 08:58

Even if he doesn't find a rental place, it really isn't so bad if the boys go to visit him at the grandmother's house (hopefully, if they get on with her). At least there will be someone else there for them apart from their dad, and it would be a stepping stone before they see him living somewhere completely different.

I like a glass of wine (or three) too. I try not to drink in the week, but I know that at times of stress it is just so easy to open a bottle to feel a little better. So I can understand exactly why you are drinking. That said, you will probably feel generally better and more positive if you can reduce it a bit.

Hope your day is ok today, and hopefully you managed to get hold of your brother.

wonderingagain · 19/06/2013 09:09

It might be that with the change in the atmosphere at home, when the fog of dysfunction has lifted, you may find you won't want to drink at home.

Try to set some rules for yourself when he goes?

Jux · 19/06/2013 09:35

There's never going to be a perfect moment though, so don't wait for it! Once you have told the boys a big burden of worry and fear will be lifted from you (and them I believe). Ignore extraneous factors. It doesn't matter whether h has anything concrete to tell them other than he will be at his mum's looking for a more permanent place. Thanks

Be strong, hold your head up, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

cjel · 19/06/2013 09:41

morning fb, wishing you hydration and strength today. sorrow and hopefully peace today. but your future starts now.xx

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 19/06/2013 16:11

Unlucky timing with that anniversary looming, or strangely fitting, a circle completed?

The boys need to know you & H are still available to them, just not under the same roof. They'll have your support and draw strength from each other.
I know you worry about them being further distressed if you cry. It doesn't seem to me there is anything wrong in shedding tears or showing DCs (and particularly boys perhaps) heartfelt emotion, as opposed to stiff upper lip "Pretend we're not hurting".

From other sources I gather you may swing from relief to worry to anticipation. If you do buckle next week it will be your body and mind's way of forcing a rest to regroup and take stock. You may equally find a sort of calm descends or even a burst of adrenaline as a response to the lifting of a cloud.

At life changing moments there is a sensation of treading untrodden ground. Everything is unscripted, if it crosses your mind "Am I doing the right thing, acting appropriately?" don't fret about being judged.

fuckitybollocks · 19/06/2013 17:18

Donkey, yes there is a certain symmetry.

Hve told brother and sister. Told someone at work because I was caught coming out of the loo with my make up in disarray.

Coz if that have told boss. Oh well.

Boys have seen me cry often enough to understand emotion, just want everything to be as positive as poss.

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AgathaF · 19/06/2013 17:51

I'm so glad your've told your brother and sister. Work too - it's better that they know that you're under a great deal of stress at the moment, and why.

I'm sure that you crying or not won't make too much difference to your boys. They are old enough to understand that you will be sad, even if the decisions and actions are for the best.

Are you still intending telling them tonight? If so, I hope you are ok.

fuckitybollocks · 19/06/2013 19:25

Husband is at football. I will,eave work when that is over and we will tell them later. Have been told he has found a flat but do not know more than that at this stage.

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AgathaF · 19/06/2013 19:54

When does the football finish? I can't believe he has gone to football when he should be at home doing the right thing by your boys.

Hope it goes well.