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Thirty years

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fuckitybollocks · 16/04/2013 06:23

My husband had an affair 5 years ago. He has not been 'in love' with me since. I have really struggled, living with the man you love who does not feel the same way is soul destroying. We have two teenage children so at least we have been together with them. He would continue like this although he is not happy. He says he does not really know what he wants. At the weekend I told him I did not want to live with someone who dies not feel the same way about me. He says he loves me but cannot remember when he was in ,I've with me. He has a neurological issue which affects his memory especially biographical memory and that really does not help.

We are currently hiding the fact that one of us sleeps on the sofa from the children. I can't do that anymore as I have hurt my back. He has not done anything about finding somewhere to live. He does not really want to I don't think. He does not have someone else now, he hasn't for a long while so would prefer us to live together, us being all of us. I think he thinks I will capitulate and he will be able to stay with us for longer.

This is so very very hard. I am crying at times, not when the children are around, he hugs me. He hates seeing me upset. He says he loves me, cares for me. When he had his girlfriend he experienced that infatuated soul mate type relationship. Of course a wife of 30 years cannot match that. He does not value that total love and loyalty that comes with time and family. He says he does not think about me and look forward to seeing me. I know he would stay if he could, he does not really want to have all the hassle if finding somewhere to live etc and he does want to be with children. I am so lonely. Being friends sleeping together (he does not want sex with me often at all) is so souk destroying. I don't blame him for not wanting me, I smell of fags and he hates that, I have always smoked but the smell of me has become really horrid for him and I understand tht. I quit for nearly three months last year and am gearing up to try again. When I didn't smoke he did not want me more though.

This situation can't continue. One child is gearing up for his gcses next month. I do not want children to see this train wreck. I feel so pathetic and selfish messing things up because it is hard living with someone who is not in love with me. Until this crisis he has not told me he loves me at all for months. Valentines day for the first time was just a card. I had chosen a present or him. Two actually although one was not delivered in time.

When he has affair I did not cope. I was very depressed and ended up unable to work. I know I will not do that this time (although am off suck fir a few days while this back pain dies down). He does not respect me, I have behaved badly and been very weal and feeble. Not now though. I am never going into that depression again. I am very unhappy but not depressed and there us a big difference. He might be depressed though. He certainly feels as though there is little point o life.

I am not sure why I am writing this. What if anything anyone can say. I just feel so alone and a bit scared.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 19/06/2013 20:51

Hmm Priorities?

wonderingagain · 19/06/2013 21:04

I am absolutely astounded that he's gone to football when this is going on.

Whatever happens to you and the boys it is very likely he will be absolutely fine - he knows how to look after himself and put himself first.

One less thing for you to worry about I suppose Smile

cjel · 19/06/2013 21:26

hope you are alright, glad you've started to tell people. is DH back yet?

Jux · 19/06/2013 22:01

Is unbelievable, isn't he?

Hope the talk is going as well as it can.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 19/06/2013 23:59

Bet he tries to make it another reason to delay telling the boys.

cjel · 20/06/2013 07:53

thinking ofyoux

fuckitybollocks · 20/06/2013 08:55

We told the boys. Husband did make another 'we don't have to do this' speech. But I said I could not do any of it again.

When I say we told the boys it was me, but he was there. Eldest ok on the whole, youngest pragmatic (I think he was not surprised) middle lad a bit teary.

I do not work today so will see how son is when wakes. Sister and brother in law might come over for tea. They, or rather Sister wants to see boys to see if ok. I obviously need to go and tell my mother. I am not sure about tea. On a purely practical level I think think far ahead to think about food. I have work I absolutely must do toady so will try and get that done.

Am exhausted.

It might b that he can move into flat next week in which case he will not go to his mums. I knew it would not be clean. Next he will need me to find a wardrobe or drive the van (he can't as epilepsy restricts licence).

Oh and sister did ask how I was, after saying that my husband can go there to stay/live if he wants. She would then have boys to stay whenever they wanted to see him. Hmmmmm.

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AgathaF · 20/06/2013 09:11

Well done for telling them. It sounds like it went as well as could be expected.

I reckon he should still go to his mums this weekend. If he is not intending taking all of his stuff, I can't see why he wouldn't. It will just give you all a bit of adjustment time, a trial run if you like. Otherwise I can see him delaying and delaying the move. The boys can visit him there too, again a practice run before they see him in his new place.

Go with your gut feeling with regard to your sister. If you think her type of support (given her views on people separating etc) might not be helpful to you or your boys at the moment, then it might be good to put her off for a few days. Maybe your boys would be happier to just have you available to talk to if they need to, tonight.

I hope you're ok today. It's bound to be difficult for you all, and of course this is all fairly new for your sons although perhaps they realised all was not great. They will adjust given time though, and once they can see for themselves how things will work.

Jux · 20/06/2013 09:11

Well done, FB. Thanks

Probably better if he doesn't stay with your sister or any member of your family.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 20/06/2013 09:22

I think he would lap that up tbh! You know your DSis, I don't, but if my DSis suggested that, I'd resent the inference (conscious on her part or not) that I was somehow hellbent on upsetting everyone and she was patching things up from whatever noble motive. She can't have your old life.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 20/06/2013 09:24

However, that took courage, fuckity, it has been a difficult year for you, you're not out of the woods yet but very well done Thanks.

wheredidiputit · 20/06/2013 12:13

Well done fuckity, I was going suggest you tell them yourself last night as I thought he would find another reason as to why not.

fuckitybollocks · 20/06/2013 12:17

I think it took reaching total despair rather than courage. But. I am really pleased with how we told boys. It was fairly brief very honest, left no ambiguity and I really really hope left the door open for them to ask anything at all they want.

Going to his mums is a little complicated as she does not have wifi or indeed Internet at all and husband works from home. He would have to pay for Internet etc as a matter of urgency. If flat is REALLY available within next week or so than it is daft to waste funds like that. I could get my bedroom wall re plastered for that and I would be further on the way of getting something I actually like in there....not sure I will get that but it is a thought.

Now to tell mum.

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crispsarenotoneofyour5aday · 20/06/2013 12:56

Well done FB - you will do whatever is right but please don't let him drag this out. You need your space now so that you can start to get on with the rest of your life.

wonderingagain · 20/06/2013 15:17

I think that would be a good idea for him to go to your sister's for a while, I can imagine it would be good for the children. It will be less weird and new. It will also be good because he won't allow himself to feel rejected and use that as an excuse to wallow. He could end up wallowing to the children which wouldn't be helpful for them, having your sister there will help him keep in check.

Would he stay with her?

Jux · 20/06/2013 15:17

He could go to his mum's if the flat isn't ready and temporarily use internet cafes or the library when he really needs to be connected?

The thing is, FB, his behaviour towards you has been appalling but so far he's escaped pretty well without having to face any consequences. He can't have the way paved in gold for him, and he should have thought about what he was doing, and he would have to do as a result. He seems to have just assumed that everything would be fine and he quite simply wouldn't really have to do anything other than sleep at his mum's for a little while.

Wifi, and keeping the business running and all the other things which he will suddenly realise need organising are all things he should have been sorting out over the last few weeks, instead of wibbling about feeling sorry for himself, being horrid to you, and occasionally asking you for a cuddle because he feels sad.

Sorry, he's really annoying me. Ignore me. Thanks

Jux · 20/06/2013 15:20

I really don'tx think going to your sister's is a good idea. Sorry to disagree with you, wondering. I think he will use her to put more pressure on you to take him back.

Use your family for supporting you; he can (and will) use his family to support him.

You really don't want your sister mixed up in his woes.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 20/06/2013 15:29

Very well done FB that was brave especially with no help from notsoDH.

I could easily be wrong but, doesn't a dongle facilitate internet access wirelessly? In any case he could sit in a cafe and work.

Sorry, but I would just want him gone, he's too thoughtless and selfish.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 20/06/2013 15:32

Yes, Jux said it much better than I did.

And he's annoying me too.

And don't ignore her/us, kick the bugger out!

cjel · 20/06/2013 20:52

I know that its tempting to keep on wanting to help him, but trust me from experience it won't be good for you. hes not your friend, and your responsibility now is to you and the boys. you mustn't let your sister rule this situation, he must go to his mums and deal with the move and internet stuff himself. Mine tried it on so many times that i arrange for a storage company to take it if he didnt get it by a certain date. funny he managed to get it all organised on his own. If he wanted it all done in 6mnths time he'd have to manage>
I'm not underestimating how hard it is but it really does set the right tone straight away. You don't have to be horrid but do please do what is best for you . He has to now face the consequences of not being together.

Hope this doesnt sound too harsh it really isn't meant to, but i am saying it to encourage you to take care of yourselfxxx

fuckitybollocks · 20/06/2013 22:31

I don't want him to go to my sister. I would rather he stayed here than that. I am going away for Saturday night. Will try and talk to him tomorrow. He is here on he sofa beside me but I am just too tired to do anything tonight. Tomorrow is our anniversary. 27 years married. He asked if we should go out for dinner. He just does not know what he is doing. I said no. Too tired to talk now.

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AgathaF · 20/06/2013 22:37

You are having such a hard time just now, but it will get better. I think him going to your sister would be a bad idea. I'm not sure what her motives are, but I think that he would milk it and that wouldn't be good for any of you.

He can still go to his mums though - and use other means to get online when necessary.

I can't believe he suggested dinner out tomorrow - he really is deluded.

cjel · 20/06/2013 22:41

horrid time, i spent our 30th knowing he'd just taken OW out a couple of weeks before, heartbreaking, If you are tired just rest. You have done what you had to. sometimes they need a bomb up their bums, but take a bit of a breather. look after fb tonight.xx

fuckitybollocks · 20/06/2013 23:39

Ta for being here. Sleep now I think. It isn't going to be clean and ami able is it? I so want to ask him to come to bed now. I won't. I have done so much crying today and asked him for a hug three times too many. I am so going to miss him. I can't decide whether to make the most of him being here or whether to utterly ignore.

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fuckitybollocks · 21/06/2013 06:22

Done. Another night on my own. Going to my friends tomorrow morning which will be a relief. Hoping to see my make friend this eve after work for a few mins. Can you imagine he asked life we should go out to dinner tonight?!

Am thinking an engrossing film and then bed, he will stay on sofa obviously. Any ideas for film?

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