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Thirty years

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fuckitybollocks · 16/04/2013 06:23

My husband had an affair 5 years ago. He has not been 'in love' with me since. I have really struggled, living with the man you love who does not feel the same way is soul destroying. We have two teenage children so at least we have been together with them. He would continue like this although he is not happy. He says he does not really know what he wants. At the weekend I told him I did not want to live with someone who dies not feel the same way about me. He says he loves me but cannot remember when he was in ,I've with me. He has a neurological issue which affects his memory especially biographical memory and that really does not help.

We are currently hiding the fact that one of us sleeps on the sofa from the children. I can't do that anymore as I have hurt my back. He has not done anything about finding somewhere to live. He does not really want to I don't think. He does not have someone else now, he hasn't for a long while so would prefer us to live together, us being all of us. I think he thinks I will capitulate and he will be able to stay with us for longer.

This is so very very hard. I am crying at times, not when the children are around, he hugs me. He hates seeing me upset. He says he loves me, cares for me. When he had his girlfriend he experienced that infatuated soul mate type relationship. Of course a wife of 30 years cannot match that. He does not value that total love and loyalty that comes with time and family. He says he does not think about me and look forward to seeing me. I know he would stay if he could, he does not really want to have all the hassle if finding somewhere to live etc and he does want to be with children. I am so lonely. Being friends sleeping together (he does not want sex with me often at all) is so souk destroying. I don't blame him for not wanting me, I smell of fags and he hates that, I have always smoked but the smell of me has become really horrid for him and I understand tht. I quit for nearly three months last year and am gearing up to try again. When I didn't smoke he did not want me more though.

This situation can't continue. One child is gearing up for his gcses next month. I do not want children to see this train wreck. I feel so pathetic and selfish messing things up because it is hard living with someone who is not in love with me. Until this crisis he has not told me he loves me at all for months. Valentines day for the first time was just a card. I had chosen a present or him. Two actually although one was not delivered in time.

When he has affair I did not cope. I was very depressed and ended up unable to work. I know I will not do that this time (although am off suck fir a few days while this back pain dies down). He does not respect me, I have behaved badly and been very weal and feeble. Not now though. I am never going into that depression again. I am very unhappy but not depressed and there us a big difference. He might be depressed though. He certainly feels as though there is little point o life.

I am not sure why I am writing this. What if anything anyone can say. I just feel so alone and a bit scared.

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fuckitybollocks · 16/06/2013 23:24

Well. A late night for boys. I am off to bed they are still up. Nothing said or discussed. This is worse than waiting for an exam to start! He is home tomorrow, I will try and call him to repeat that we need to tell boys tomorroww eve and how I think we should approach it.

I rechecked my working nd child tax credit. A few weeks ago I checked and got something to help. Today nothing. Won't tell him and hope he does not check again. Adds to the scariness though.

He hugged me again. Son number three there. This week is going to be awful. Not least because I have not caught up on my work. It was better to talk to son number two though. I reckon he will be angry after tomorrow.

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AgathaF · 17/06/2013 07:16

I hope today goes ok for you fb. This has been a long time coming, and a long time to feel the worry and nervousness building.

I'm really glad you are going to speak to your brother and sister. You really need extra support this week if possible, and probably for a few weeks too. It would be good for your boys to see family rallying round once they know and he has moved out.

Keep strong. You have done so well getting to this point. This is the final tough climb before the top of the mountain, but you can do it.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 17/06/2013 08:43

This is a consequence of a chain of events that started even prior to your H's affair. If he now plays victim and professes bafflement, remind yourself of how unmoved he was when you were depressed and broken after his betrayal - come back and read your thread(s?). As Agatha says, extra support will help you. I don't know how open you will be telling others, about the true reason behind this. You don't have to explain or justify or go as far as hinting at H's affair. Good friends and loyal family may worry for you but I hope they will respect your right to decide for yourself where your happiness lies.

cjel · 17/06/2013 08:53

stay strong, determined. get all real life support but don't tell people all the details. you will feel better if you say you'd rather not go into details. as donkey says people who matter to you will understandxx

fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 11:07

I am dreading this eve and I think husband is dreading it even more.

My family all know about the affair, in fact most people do as it was all very public at the time.

What they don't know is that over the past two years I have continued to feel unloved. We look ok to the front, we certainly look like we are good friends at least we have done until two months ago.

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sleepingdragon · 17/06/2013 12:50

I'm thinking of you today fb, and hope your feeling strong while you wait for this evening.

fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 13:00

Son number two has been texting after his exam. Apparently they are having a group sleepover at a friends tonight. An x box marathon and celebration. I asked if he woul come home for tea (although could we tell him if going out?). He replied they were all ordering in pizza. I can't believe although perhaps should have thought that as it was maths today a few if them would all finish.

I feel sick. I know delaying a day in tiny in the scheme if things. But have been waiting for the 17yh for months. Do I say he can't go? It is possible he would go anyway but at the very least it would result in an argument. I can't tell him why he should stay home tonight.

Husband says one day makes no difference but it does to me. Not very logical but this has really shaken me. Can't keep it ok while telling them if sin is angry about staying in. Have no choice really. Oh fuck.

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cjel · 17/06/2013 13:05

oh no poor fb,husband is right in a way though isn't he. can't seem right to spoil ds evening can it? I don't know what to say that could help just hang in there. Could you then perhaps tell all boys that you need to talk to them and book a time so that it won't happen again?

SlittySluttySlots · 17/06/2013 13:56

FB, have been following your thread and just wanted to say you are an amazing woman. The last few weeks have been so up and down but you have made some incredible leaps forward.

I am sorry it looks as though the talk is off for tonight but I don't see why he can't spend the night elsewhere as planned. He can surely think of a reason why he needs to stay with his mum for tonight?

You are so strong and it will happen! Big hugs x

AgathaF · 17/06/2013 14:56

In your situation I would let your son go and have a nice time tonight, then tell them all tomorrow. It doesn't alter the day your H leaves, it is only delaying telling the boys by one day. Use today to speak to your brother and sister instead, but not your mum if she can't be totally trusted to keep it quiet. Don't feel guilty about telling your mum a day later than telling your siblings - this week is about you and your needs now, and I really think you need some support from your brother and sister if that is a possibility.

fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 16:31

You are all right. It just feels devastating. Not terribly logical I know. He still has not found out about renting. He says it feels wrong to go but that I deserve more. Then I got text from friend asking how she should respond to a request from him for a chat. I feel very vulnerable. I said yes, he does not have other friends and is unhappy. Now I feel as though they are talking about me. Which they are.

Work is not going well. I have hidden tears but I am clearly texting far more than usual. I am struggling to concentrate and have big task due in for Wednesday.

I am really getting to the end of my tether here. I don't know which way is up. I am dreading telling boys.

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AgathaF · 17/06/2013 17:12

Oh fb you sound in a bad place today. Keep telling yourself how very near you are now, and that you will have time to heal the damage done by him and his lack of care and love, in just a very few days time.

Could you take any time off work, just a day or two maybe? Do they know what is happening? If not, consider telling them.

Do you have anything planned to look forward to, either in the near future or a bit further away? Meal with a friend, cinema, weekend away? If not, can you try and make some arrangements, just to give you something to aim for? I'm sure people will understand if you are not your normal self, but just a change of scene, even for just an hour or two might help.

Have you talked to your brother or sister yet? Perhaps they can be around a bit more for you.

fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 17:46

I have not told anyone at work and whilst I am struggling I am better here. Busy anyway. Brother is in hk so will chat to him early tomorrow morning. Sister I will tell her but she is a bit judgemental and believes it is alwys best for children to have both parents. Sh does not have children and my boys are very important to her, she is also a bit of an expert on everything. She will intend to be helpful.

If I call anyone now I will cry and I have to get down work done.

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AgathaF · 17/06/2013 17:56

Oh, I remember you saying similar about your sister before. That's a shame - she doesn't sound like she will be terribly helpful with that attitude. I would say to her though, if she starts with the two parents thing, that your boys will have both parents, just not living together. Shame too that your brother is in HK. Does he live there or is he there temporarily?

I wish I knew you in RL. You sound so nice, and like you could do with friends rallying round to help at the moment. Are there other friends apart from the chap you have talked about that you could talk to and call on? I guess after you have told the boys tomorrow then the friends/relatives being utterly trustworthy with regard to keeping it to themselves is not such an issue.

fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 18:27

Brother lives in hk but is in uk one week in four. Back on the 8th July next I think. Have spoken to, oh ok cried to, the male friend this afternoon. He has almost told me not to be daft and get on. Which was not unsympathetic but useful!

The girlfriend who is. Lawyer is currently in Monaco (yep that is exactly as posh as it sounds!). The girlfriend who I will go to at weekend is fab, she is my oldest friend from schooldays and has just this year moved back to uk. She is lovely.

So I am not really lacking support. Trouble is some of those I trust need support themselves at the moment. One has a 14 year old daughter who has spent last month in psych hosp with psychosis, another had breast cancer, another a sick mum and so it goes on.

I am very very glad of your support. It means more than I can say. I can be entirely honest here which is a huge relief as I feel as though I am pretending all the time in RL.

Hmmm. S

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fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 18:28

So I am saying that the virtual world is more authentic than real life. There must be a book in that...

Not this week though.

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AgathaF · 17/06/2013 19:44

No, not this week. I think you have quite enough to do without writing a book as well Grin.

Glad you have plenty of support, and your brother coming home in 3 weeks is something to look forward to.

cjel · 17/06/2013 20:01

perhaps you could knock out a book tonight now you don't have to have family meeting?
One of my sils told another that she should have kept the family together while her brother was a drunk cheat abuser!!
then when her dad and other brothers cheated she supported the'breaking up families?
You know the truth and living in the state you are is not good for your boys.x

Wellwobbly · 17/06/2013 20:09

Why am I enormously surprised that your selfish, self-absorbed H has no friends...

(nor has mine).

Paradoxically, FB, him living by himself and his MAGNIFICENT emotional resources [not] might be the one thing that saves your relatiosnhip.

You have been sent this for a reason, FB. Learning to stand on your own is so important for co-dependents.

fuckitybollocks · 17/06/2013 22:45

Long evening. He seems so angry. But vacillates between we can sort it out and I care about you to saying he is conflicted.

Do I force the issue tomorrow or leave for a few days? So tired. Need space.

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cjel · 17/06/2013 22:47

force issue, few more days won't change anything if you have made up your mind? don't think you need more time?xx

Doha · 17/06/2013 22:48

This has rumbled on lone enough. The deadline was set for today--now for tomorrow.
Time to take total control and put yourself out of this misery.

TOMORROW IS D DAY--no more delay no more excused

AgathaF · 17/06/2013 22:51

I'm not sure what issue it is you feel that you need to force or otherwise with him. Is it whether he moves out or not? Because if so, I think the stance you need to take is that decision time is over. You both know what will happen. Obviously you will both have uncertain feelings, regrets, fears, etc. But you know, and he must do deep down, that things just cannot continue like this, and whatever he says about sorting things out is just words. The time for his actions and considerations to try to mend your broken relationship were weeks, months and years ago, not now.

So if it is that, I would say that to him. The time for talk is done, the time for decisions is done. We know what is happening, you are going to your mums and then finding somewhere more permanent from there. We are telling the boys tomorrow. What else is there to discuss?

fuckitybollocks · 18/06/2013 00:05

Have just had a couple of hours of tears and crap. He wants to give it longer. He wishes I was string enough to cope without him. He loves me. All said with a horrid ok on the end. He says he does not know what he wants. I am so bloody exhausted.

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fuckitybollocks · 18/06/2013 00:07

He wants to stay. He dies not want me to think he wants to sty because he loves me. He wants me to think he is staying out of oh I just don't know. It is not quite pity. Bloody close though

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