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Thirty years

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fuckitybollocks · 16/04/2013 06:23

My husband had an affair 5 years ago. He has not been 'in love' with me since. I have really struggled, living with the man you love who does not feel the same way is soul destroying. We have two teenage children so at least we have been together with them. He would continue like this although he is not happy. He says he does not really know what he wants. At the weekend I told him I did not want to live with someone who dies not feel the same way about me. He says he loves me but cannot remember when he was in ,I've with me. He has a neurological issue which affects his memory especially biographical memory and that really does not help.

We are currently hiding the fact that one of us sleeps on the sofa from the children. I can't do that anymore as I have hurt my back. He has not done anything about finding somewhere to live. He does not really want to I don't think. He does not have someone else now, he hasn't for a long while so would prefer us to live together, us being all of us. I think he thinks I will capitulate and he will be able to stay with us for longer.

This is so very very hard. I am crying at times, not when the children are around, he hugs me. He hates seeing me upset. He says he loves me, cares for me. When he had his girlfriend he experienced that infatuated soul mate type relationship. Of course a wife of 30 years cannot match that. He does not value that total love and loyalty that comes with time and family. He says he does not think about me and look forward to seeing me. I know he would stay if he could, he does not really want to have all the hassle if finding somewhere to live etc and he does want to be with children. I am so lonely. Being friends sleeping together (he does not want sex with me often at all) is so souk destroying. I don't blame him for not wanting me, I smell of fags and he hates that, I have always smoked but the smell of me has become really horrid for him and I understand tht. I quit for nearly three months last year and am gearing up to try again. When I didn't smoke he did not want me more though.

This situation can't continue. One child is gearing up for his gcses next month. I do not want children to see this train wreck. I feel so pathetic and selfish messing things up because it is hard living with someone who is not in love with me. Until this crisis he has not told me he loves me at all for months. Valentines day for the first time was just a card. I had chosen a present or him. Two actually although one was not delivered in time.

When he has affair I did not cope. I was very depressed and ended up unable to work. I know I will not do that this time (although am off suck fir a few days while this back pain dies down). He does not respect me, I have behaved badly and been very weal and feeble. Not now though. I am never going into that depression again. I am very unhappy but not depressed and there us a big difference. He might be depressed though. He certainly feels as though there is little point o life.

I am not sure why I am writing this. What if anything anyone can say. I just feel so alone and a bit scared.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 29/04/2013 10:35

Glad you feel better.

fuckitybollocks · 29/04/2013 11:05

Thank you. I feel like ECG low is shorter and the times in between are almost long enough to do something constructive! Last ev and night was bad but explicable.

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fuckitybollocks · 29/04/2013 21:51

He has explained again that he has tried to love me but can't. He warns to leave but can't. He feels sorry for me. What a fucking failure. Have to go to work tomorrow for every reason under the sun. If I cry at work I will never forgive myself. I don't think I forgive myself anyway. I have made him so unhappy. Going to bed now. Hopefully sleeping off the last but if anaesthetic then lots if slap on in the morning and get in there. He says he cannot remember ever loving me. He says he is jealous that I can remember. By perhaps I was wrong? I have been so wrong about so much. He has always been selfish and lazy, perhaps I was not worth it even then? Even in good times I would have had to ask him to be around when I was in hosp or not well. Most major events have been overshadowed by his sport. I even had to wait to be collected by him form hosp after having son number one because he had cricket. I have been so stupid. Of course he does not think I am worth anything when I have spent decades feeling worthless. I think if I had been stringer and bette he would have loved me. I don't know what happened. When we got married I was actually pretty lovely. Everyone thought he had got lucky! I was also very career orientated and swore I would remain so. I didn't. I wanted to go back to work but only got away with it for a few months. It meant he missed sport unless he drive his son 40 miles each way to leave him with my mother in law. My wanting to work was selfish and I gave in. After that I fitted around his schedule. So stupid. I think I am kind of putting this down as a warning I keep seeing threads where woman are being walked over and I want to shake them I want them to see the consequences and they are not great.

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wonderingagain · 29/04/2013 22:04

Jesus this man is a total mindfuck.

Drawing you in with warped comments about being jealous that you can remember him loving you. He knows your weak spots and is working on them. Why do you even want this man to love you or to have loved you?

He is incapable of it. He's an emotional leech. Since when was it selfish to go to work? You really need him to leave now and give you some peace.

wonderingagain · 29/04/2013 22:06

Get him to leave. Rent out a bedroom to cover the costs. JFDI was a good expression I learned on here.

Doha · 29/04/2013 22:09

He warns to leave but can't
What a load of shite. He feels sorry for you--how condescending can this obnoxious man get,
Tell him you neither want nor deserve his pity--you will get by just fine without him hanging around your neck.
Time to grow a pair fuckitybollocks tell him to get out now. There is no such word as can't --the only word in his vocabulary is won't.
It doesn't suit him to go so he stays citing this pathetic excuse.
Come on girl.....

wonderingagain · 29/04/2013 22:18

OP, can you organise flat for him? Give him a deadline and if he can't find an alternative you will have one set up for him?

fuckitybollocks · 29/04/2013 22:25

He used to be so different (still a pratt). But he was compassionate and kind. He would by upset if a animal was being hurt, now he s cold and cruel about his marriage and family. He apsays they will be fine. I feel as though we have made a life and family together and now he is going to see if the grass is greener. I feel like the rubbish that is being discarded. I do not me he should have to stay with some,one who is unlovable, I really don't. H said he has not found a rental yet be use he did think it was going come to that. I do now I have made this. I can nt love with him, I don't want to see him. How did I give him the power to hurt me like this. And it does hurt. It is a physical pain. I don't want to be left doing this n my own. O don't want him to stay either. I don't see why he shud. He mocked this idea that promise and commitment meant anything. I think he thinks it is normal to change your ind and wave a family he knows the boys will be if apparently. He said that last time.

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fuckitybollocks · 29/04/2013 22:27

I could do that. I suspect he wants me too. It wil be my fault and Edwin the you see. H will still be a good an who tired to live his of but just couldn't. I did think about organising flat I have even been watching furniture for him on eBay.

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wonderingagain · 29/04/2013 22:48

Try to detach from him and think about yourself. Really, you are making it harder for yourself. You can do this, but not tonight. Try to get some rest.

fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 06:23

Mornings are better. This morning I almost hate him and want him out if my life. Getting sorted for work which will be do much better for me than being here. Consolation prize this morning includes that I look dreadful so work will have no difficulty believing my sick certs. I hope that yesterday made him get started in leaving sooner rather than later. We are poisonous togther I think. Thanks for listening.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 30/04/2013 09:21

Good luck at work today.

Orchidlady · 30/04/2013 09:29

Have a great day at work, keeping busy is good medicine.

AgathaF · 30/04/2013 09:58

The more you write about him, the worse he sounds. The worse he sounds, not you. You have spent years keeping your family together, being the glue that binds them. He has spent years abusing the love and dovotion that you gave to him and your family. He is, quite simply, shit.

Please consider some counselling for yourself. I really think you have so much emotional stuff that needs to come out as you move forward (and you are moving forward), and a good counsellor would be able to help and support you whilst your mind works through all of this stuff.

fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 12:40

He has just texted me at work hoping my day is ok with a smiley face.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 30/04/2013 12:55

Throwing you a scrap. Ignore.

fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 12:59

It hurts. I feel like my brain is porridge. Really struggling here.

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Orchidlady · 30/04/2013 13:04

FB don't know what his game is tbh, I think he is being cruel as you know. If he does not love you then he should move out now, longer this goes on is pure torture. How are you going to move with him hanging around giving you mixed messages. He is an ass, actually getting Angry for you

WhiteBirdBlueSky · 30/04/2013 14:20

Wow. He thinks a smiley face can make up for the turmoil he's caused! Angry

Orchidlady · 30/04/2013 14:32

Notice all the Angry Angry, this how you should start to feel he is taking the piss. Smiley face cheeky bastard!

MadBusLady · 30/04/2013 14:58

Just caught up with your thread fb.

This man is just a despicable cunt. Angry

He feels sorry for me.

He keeps saying things like this, doesn't he? And all the "You're pathetic" stuff. He is TRYING to make you feel weak and to be pitied. You WOULDN'T feel weak and pathetic if he wasn't there doing his best to make sure you do.

And then you get a little smiley face - having put you down hard last night, he now throws you a crumb of "comfort". All this is designed to keep you dependent on him, thinking about him.

Please stop engaging with him. Stop having these heart-to-hearts with him. He uses them to manipulate you. Everything he says is designed to hurt, or hook you in in some way. He is doing it on purpose. The more I hear, the more convinced I am of that.

He is doing it because if he can get you thinking about his bullshit, his drama, his "feelings", then you won't have time and energy to pursue YOUR own course ahead. He wants you to stay confused, hurt and swinging backwards and forwards - it benefits him, and he doesn't give a shit what it does to you.

The only way to win this is to stop engaging.

AgathaF · 30/04/2013 15:20

fb I hope your day is improving. If not, just tell yourself over and over, this is a blip, he is playing mind games, it will improve.

This is exactly why staying in this relationship is so very harmful for you, and exactly why you need to move on with your life away from his destructive influence.

I very much hope he is staying on the sofa again tonight, and for all the night until he leaves. Your treatment gives you the perfect excuse for the children. The bonus is that making him uncomfortable at home will give him much more incentive to find somewhere else to live.

fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 16:22

Yes the treatment and bruised have been more than sufficient to explain the sofa!

I do think he genuinely does not want to hurt me although he knows that he does. I think, and he admitted at some point but I can't think when, that he does not want to make the decision. He wants me to. I have. Now he does not know what he wants. It was easy to say he didn't love me when w thought I would Always be there. Now I am being clearer that I have had enough he does not know. Buy I can not do more of this. I really can't. I want this new (6 months) job to go well and I am still on probation )10 months in this line of work).

I am tired. I felt sick coming in to work today and I don't know what is me post anaesthetic what is a physical reaction to him and what is just that I can't cope with the job. Anyway. Smoke break over. Back to the office.

I still don't feel angry. I wish I could find some anger. At least that comes with energy.

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fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 16:23

Thank god I still wnt him to go. I hope tht sees me through this time.

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AgathaF · 30/04/2013 17:21

Maybe the anger will come later for you, when he has left, and when you can really see how much he has messed you around over the years.

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