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Thirty years

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fuckitybollocks · 16/04/2013 06:23

My husband had an affair 5 years ago. He has not been 'in love' with me since. I have really struggled, living with the man you love who does not feel the same way is soul destroying. We have two teenage children so at least we have been together with them. He would continue like this although he is not happy. He says he does not really know what he wants. At the weekend I told him I did not want to live with someone who dies not feel the same way about me. He says he loves me but cannot remember when he was in ,I've with me. He has a neurological issue which affects his memory especially biographical memory and that really does not help.

We are currently hiding the fact that one of us sleeps on the sofa from the children. I can't do that anymore as I have hurt my back. He has not done anything about finding somewhere to live. He does not really want to I don't think. He does not have someone else now, he hasn't for a long while so would prefer us to live together, us being all of us. I think he thinks I will capitulate and he will be able to stay with us for longer.

This is so very very hard. I am crying at times, not when the children are around, he hugs me. He hates seeing me upset. He says he loves me, cares for me. When he had his girlfriend he experienced that infatuated soul mate type relationship. Of course a wife of 30 years cannot match that. He does not value that total love and loyalty that comes with time and family. He says he does not think about me and look forward to seeing me. I know he would stay if he could, he does not really want to have all the hassle if finding somewhere to live etc and he does want to be with children. I am so lonely. Being friends sleeping together (he does not want sex with me often at all) is so souk destroying. I don't blame him for not wanting me, I smell of fags and he hates that, I have always smoked but the smell of me has become really horrid for him and I understand tht. I quit for nearly three months last year and am gearing up to try again. When I didn't smoke he did not want me more though.

This situation can't continue. One child is gearing up for his gcses next month. I do not want children to see this train wreck. I feel so pathetic and selfish messing things up because it is hard living with someone who is not in love with me. Until this crisis he has not told me he loves me at all for months. Valentines day for the first time was just a card. I had chosen a present or him. Two actually although one was not delivered in time.

When he has affair I did not cope. I was very depressed and ended up unable to work. I know I will not do that this time (although am off suck fir a few days while this back pain dies down). He does not respect me, I have behaved badly and been very weal and feeble. Not now though. I am never going into that depression again. I am very unhappy but not depressed and there us a big difference. He might be depressed though. He certainly feels as though there is little point o life.

I am not sure why I am writing this. What if anything anyone can say. I just feel so alone and a bit scared.

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fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 18:27

Perhaps. I think I am more disappointed in me at the moment. What a mess I have made.

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MadBusLady · 30/04/2013 19:16

He is responsible for the mess. If he'd just fuck off like a normal human being would under these circumstances, there wouldn't be a problem.

beachyhead · 30/04/2013 19:36

Well done on making it back to work. Others are right, he is head fucking with you to steer you off course...

He's been surprised by you taking some control so is stirring it up more and more... You have a turbulent ride ahead, but keep your eyes on the horizon and I believe waters will calm and the sun will shine late June.

Stay strong, you can do it.

50shadesofgreyhair · 30/04/2013 19:59

The more you write about this twunt, the more I think you need to kick him out. Don't rent him a flat or look at furniture for him - you don't need to do anything for him - looking after him - ever again. Just tell him, repeatedly and calmly that its over, and he has to go. He's spinning you a line and has the audacity to say that he feels sorry for you, what a patronising, self opinionated knob. You blame yourself, because you have zero self belief because he's made you like this - he has bled you dry like a nasty little leech. Give him until the weekend to get out (B&B, friends sofa, his family can have him). Tell him to jog on, and start living the life you deserve xx

fuckitybollocks · 30/04/2013 22:55

I have asked him to go in the past. He just won't. I can't even at the moment get him to go away for a few days on a 'course'. We have not talked tonight except to discuss, briefly, what the builder said. I do not have the energy to fight as well as get back into work and catch up. Work has to e more important right now.

I feel like I am drowning. I have been in the black hole in the pat and do not want to ver go there again. I am trying to do it in small chunks. I have to work tomorrow then I have Thursday off, I then have to do Friday and then have three days off. Trouble is I don't know what s worse ATM work or home. He has told me he will be here all day on thursday. I think I should go into work using catching up as a reason. I will see.

I just don't want more talk with I'm, and I really really do not want him to see me cry. I never wanted his pity.

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fuckitybollocks · 01/05/2013 06:34

Up and ready for another day. I have to say I am sleeping well. Just exhausted I think. There will be little interaction before work so that us another day almost done. Just need to be efficient and up top of things for Work. I have an invite out for tonight. I will go if I can.

Printed off last stuff for pensions etc. will try and do some errands in Thursday need dentist visit and hopefully get into cab.

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wonderingagain · 01/05/2013 07:50

What would happen if you changed the locks and put some of his stuff in storage?

Walkacrossthesand · 01/05/2013 08:06

Trouble is, wondering, the law doesn't allow you to lock a spouse out of the marital home like that....But 2 people can live separately in one house - thirty, no doubt the running of the household is your responsibility? Well, alongside no more chats about feelings (as posted above, he's not on your side is he, you don't want to share your sadness and vulnerability with someone who will use them against you), you can withdraw domestic services such as laundry, making cups of tea etc, without it being too obvious to DS - I appreciate you can't really stop cooking for him if you have family meals and you're trying to maintain appearances for DS, , but all the 'little extras' can stop. I think, after you've left and found yourself, you'll re-read this thread & be utterly astounded at how manipulative and twisted your H's thought processes are around you - there are so many inconsistencies, it's all designed to keep you in a fog, but ATM you can't really see it. Prepare for him to ramp up the 'nice/nasty' switches as you become more independent!

AgathaF · 01/05/2013 08:13

fb - not sure if you current drowning feeling is just down to all the uncertainty or something more, but I wonder if a visit to your Dr might be a good idea? Maybe some anti-depressants to tide you over this particular time, or at least a discussion about it with your GP.

Hope you have a good day today. Do you have another CAB appointment?

AgathaF · 01/05/2013 08:16

I completely agree about doing as little as possible for him, without it being obvious to the children. Also, please keep him out of your bed too. Make his life uncomfortable, he will leave all the sooner.

Walkacrossthesand · 01/05/2013 08:21

Whoops - of course I meant fb, thirty is the thread title! Sorry ...

fuckitybollocks · 01/05/2013 12:52

I would really rather avoid antidepressants although I am very aware of how helpful they were when I became v depressed a few years ago I think managing without is better for now.

Have just sent text because l sons bday at weekend and need to sort celebration. I want to be strong.

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fuckitybollocks · 01/05/2013 22:41

I really want to go downstairs and ask for a hug. The need comes form my stomach. It is bigger than me. I do not want to ask. I want to stay separate but this hurts it really hurts

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 01/05/2013 22:50

Give a hug to one of your sons instead?

Doha · 01/05/2013 22:51
fuckitybollocks · 01/05/2013 22:57

They are in bed. As am I. I want him to love me. I can't do this. I really can't. I want him to come upstairs even though I know he does not want to be with me even more than I want him to stay in the sofa. I can't do this. I just can't.

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fuckitybollocks · 02/05/2013 05:28

Ok. Another epic fail on the emotions but stuck to bed and sofa respectively. Could have been worse.

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Eastpoint · 02/05/2013 05:36

Well done for staying strong. I've been reading your thread but up to now only lurking.

fuckitybollocks · 02/05/2013 06:16

Thanks east I think describing myself as strong is pushing it a bit. Not as weak as I have been perhaps? Loads to do today but starting with a lazy bath before anyone wakes up. I wish I had not let him see I was sad yesterday but trying to get the idea that it does not matter because he does not matter in my mind.

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DaemonPantalaemon · 02/05/2013 06:48

This is unbelievable.

Do people really live like this?

Why on EARTH are you still with a man like this?

fuckitybollocks · 02/05/2013 07:03

Because I have always failed to separate before.

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DaemonPantalaemon · 02/05/2013 07:25

I would have run screaming from this mess. I am really puzzled as to why you have not. I hope to God you are not one of those MN posters who put up with unbearable situations, then come to MN to get sympathy, and use the sympathy as a cushion and as a replacement for taking action about the situation.

You are a grown woman who seems kind and loving. You have a job you enjoy, children you love. You are not a helpless victim, in thrall to the manipulation of this man. You need to stop analysing your situation and talking it over with your husband and just get on with getting out.

Bon courage.

Walkacrossthesand · 02/05/2013 08:47

You have a plan and a timescale though fb, don't you - you're lining things up ready to split up (not sure what the logistics are) as soon as your DSs GCSEs are over in a few weeks time. You know that no amount of wanting things to be different with H, will make it happen - you've finally had enough of 'putting up and shutting up' and he's not inclined to leave (why would he - the arrangement suits him very well) so you're having to do something you really don't want to do. It's hard, but necessary. Well done for not cracking last night. Keep trying not to let him know how sad you are - your feelings are no longer his business. Bon courage!

Walkacrossthesand · 02/05/2013 08:54

Are you going to keep out of his way today, as you mentioned up thread? Wouldn't be surprised if he's deliberately planned to be home on a day he knows you will be, so he can step up the pressure to reel you back in... be wary! If he's Mr Nice Guy, remember he doesn't mean it...

AgathaF · 02/05/2013 09:05

Good luck with today fb. Was it deliberate mind-fuckery from him that he is home today when you are?

Well, it's a lovely day here, hopefully where you are too. Why not go for a nice long walk, maybe stop off at a coffee shop or take some sandwiches and a flask with you - make a day of it. Avoid being around him somehow, anyway.

Keep on with your plans. Well done for not cracking last night.