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Really fed up with DH - mid life crisis type post - long

354 replies

BoffinMum · 04/04/2013 19:08

So, DH has a long history of being a bit of a grumpy old sod at home more often than not when it suits him, and lying in bed at every opportunity (at the weekend it's usually more or less all morning, plus at least a 2 hour nap in the afternoons, plus slipping upstairs for a bit more of a lie down at regular intervals whenever I am not looking). I have pointed out he is doing less and less with us as a family, that we have become a very stereotypically gendered household in some respects, and that he might be depressed but he replies:

  1. No he isn't, He is just tired.
  2. He works hard and commutes to London (NB I also have a full time job and commute to London, he replies his commute is half an hour longer each way and I get to work from home sometimes).
  3. He needs more sleep than me.
  4. He does some of the washing and cooks once a week or so.
  5. He earns more than me which makes his job more important to propping up the lifestyle of the family.
  6. Two weekends out of three in term time he takes the older two to the local station on a Saturday morning to get the train to school (20 minutes there and back, then he goes back to bed).

(I have posted on here in the past about the rampant hypochondria linked to the lie downs, but luckily that has now diminished to more or less tolerable proportions since encouraged by MN I told him to man up and that there was nothing wrong with him, although he did strut about in front of our Christmas day guests with a thermometer thingy in his ear at one stage, so the hypochondria has obv not gone completely).

Now he lost his dad a couple of weeks ago, and the funeral was yesterday. I have been doing all the necessary propping up and wifely support that you would expect and which is only right. However his reaction to this is like an extreme version of his normal-lying-in-bed-complaining-all-the-time-not-doing-much-with-the-family. When his mum died a few years back it was also extreme. I think it's probably not an exaggeration to say that he copped out of family life for an entire year on that occasion (I remember speaking to relatives about it for advice at the time, I was so exhausted and fed up). I had five, repeat five bereavements of my own during the same period, including one of my closest, dearest relatives, but they were more or less ignored because he was so wrapped up in himself and his own grief.

I am really worried I am facing another year or so of doing all the heavy lifting for the family emotionally and domestically while he disappears into his psychological defence cave. I am not sure I have anything left to give. Over the last year or so I have felt suffocated by his moods and needs for lie downs, absolutely suffocated, and imprisoned in the house while we wait for him to wake up/get up/get dressed/get washed and join in. It's like we are all perpetually in limbo, and when we do get out, he's such a wet weekend it's no fun any more. I struggle to do the whole thing on my own as my mobility isn't the best.

He never volunteers to take the kids to the park, play with them or anything - if I don't nag him or do it myself the 3YO would basically spend all weekend indoors more or less entertaining himself, and the older ones would just sit in their rooms. He does however run around in a complete frenzy on a Sunday evening at 9pm in an attempt to find their PE kits and get them to complete their homework, at which time we are all completely frazzled frankly.

When he is at home, DH disappears off regularly and if he's not in bed, after half an hour or so he will appear and say things like 'well, I've tidied the kids's rooms/tidied our rooms/put everything away' very proudly, when the reality is that this is a 5 minute job stretched out to 30 as I have already usually spent the morning on domestic tasks, and he is actually multi tasking in the most inefficient way possible - dabbling about doing a bit of a job here, a bit of a job there, never quite finishing anything, criticising the way I organise the house. If he runs out of these pointless domestic tasks to occupy himself, that's when he goes off to lie in bed for a bit, rather than do something with the kids.

I have tried playing his lying in bed game as well, to see what happens, but basically the kids just end up rather neglected and start fighting, and he gets even grumpier.

I am really exhausted with all this. It is not what I got married for, tbh. I have just snapped at him and told him to 'see a fucking counsellor FFS' Blush and while I apologised straight afterwards, he has now driven off in a sulk to get away from the house. I am not getting what I need emotionally from this marriage at the moment, at all.

Oh dear, what on earth do other people do in this situation?

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pollypandemonium · 06/04/2013 22:17

Astounding how they can go for years with shite habits and suddenly they can do everything perfectly after all. Magic.

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 22:18

Thank you, lovesherdog.Smile

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Lazyoldcow · 06/04/2013 22:39

BoffinMum Sat 06-Apr-13 21:43:44

I am feeling slightly bad because as usual he has cooked me a Saturday night steak. However we are eating it in front of the TV, which I dislike, and I have to say steak isn't my thing really

This is all very sad.
Do you have a problem communicating with each other- really communicating instead of nagging?

What's stopping you saying "Look I am really worried about us and our relationship. Let's make an appt with Relate and see if it can help us move forward."

Strangers here can't help- you can!

well? :)

AvrilPoisson · 06/04/2013 22:39

I hope tomorrow he gets up Boffin.

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 22:46

Bit scary, lazyoldcow, if I am honest.

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Lazyoldcow · 06/04/2013 22:48

you need to take the bull by the horns- stop moaning :) and actually take action .

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 23:07

I did earlier, to no avail really.

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marriedinwhiteagain · 06/04/2013 23:10

Go to bed Boffin. Tomorrow's another day. Sleep tight and don't let Mr Boffin bite.

MavisGrind · 06/04/2013 23:20

Hi Boffin, I've dipped into the thread all day and you sound so worn down by your situation at the moment. I know I've already said this but your H sounds so uncannily like my XH I really would have thought they were the same person.

I really hope you can find a way forward. Sometimes people are depressed. Sometimes there are underlying health problems. Sometimes circumstance gets the better of people. Other times they're just being a twat.

Thinking of you.

Charbon · 06/04/2013 23:21

It's not 'nagging' and it's not moaning. You've explained very lucidly your fears about couples counselling and FWIW I think you are very prescient. It might be a very bad idea indeed.

If you attempted a calmer conversation tonight about why he was looking to opt out of your marriage and he responded with a huff, I'd suggest trying one more time and then if he evades discussions again think about having some therapy on your own Boffin.

Dozer · 07/04/2013 07:56

He sounds unbearable boffin, am exhausted just reading! I don't like the sound of him at all! And yes, the roles are totally gendered, except he isn't even doing the traditional "fun dad at weekends" stuff.

He doesn't seem to care for you very much, over a long time period. It is shocking that when you were ill after your breakdown he didn't amend his behaviour at all and you had to go on doing everything.

Even with depression, bereavement and / or unhappiness, it is his responsibility to participate in family life, like you have. At the moment he is just being a selfish, lazy cock. Not seeking help for his mental health while dragging you and probably the older DC down is unacceptable.

The wage slave / my job is harder and more important than yours so I need more rest thing is nasty and unappreciative. It is basically saying "I am more important than you" and leavng you to do the wifework in addition to working FT. Horrible.

counselling on your own could be good.

The older DC will surely have strong (negative) views about his behaviour?

LadyMountbatten · 07/04/2013 07:58

He sounds like he's physically distancing himself as he feels no emotional tie. Bloody hard work. It's up to you to assess if he loves you or just the idea of a family as the right thing to do.

LadyMountbatten · 07/04/2013 08:03

Boffin.

How does it take him an hour to get ready for bed? Why can't you go to bed when you like?

justaboutalittlefrazzled · 07/04/2013 08:15

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Lazyoldcow · 07/04/2013 08:44

Boffin- you said you had already taken action. What? sorry but haven't had time to read 300 posts!

Have you suggested counselling- for both of you together?

Has he taken this idea seriously if you have mentioned it?

One other question- not trying to alarm you but is there any chance he is having an emotional or physical affair- or online flirtations? Distancing yourself in a relationship is often the precursor to these , or a reaction to one going on.

MadAboutHotChoc · 07/04/2013 09:11

The possibility of an affair has crossed my mind due to the distancing and checking out of family life on his part. However, his shitty lazy entitled behaviour is a real issue - Op must feel like she is treading in treacle trying to get him to change.

OP - you can't change him but you can change how you deal with the situation. Tell him him its over if he does not improve and mean it.

BranchingOut · 07/04/2013 09:18

The only thing I can think of are comedy beds that fold away into the wall, so that the lazy sod can't lie down to rest at every opportunity...

Here with you, BoffinMum.

BoffinMum · 07/04/2013 09:19

Just to recap:

I have spoken to him on multiple occasions about all this, most recently yesterday and the day before in clear unequivocal detail. I have suggested counselling on more than one occasion.

Everyone else thinks he is a saint.

He thinks he is a saint because he does things like prime the teasmaid (God, we have a teasmaid, am I 80?), puts a bowl of muesli on the bedroom tray for me before he goes to bed, puts a glass of water by the bed for me, reminds me to take my medication, empties the bins on a Sunday night and puts the wheelie bins out, folds two loads of laundry a week, loads and unloads the dishwasher approximately five times a week each, and does a Saturday school run to the local station. (I have probably forgotten things but there isn't a lot more).

Currently he is asleep in the study and I got up at 7 as usual with DS3. I took him a cup of tea half an hour ago but he has not got up yet.

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BoffinMum · 07/04/2013 09:23

Branching out, he needs that ruddy Wallace and Grommit device to get him up, I tell you.

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BoffinMum · 07/04/2013 09:23

I am not sure when he would be doing an affair, as his time seems pretty much accounted for.

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PicardyThird · 07/04/2013 09:25

Oh, Boffin. Well done for keeping your sense of humour (Swedish murders) but the Saturday steak and telly is so sad Sad You should be able to spend desperately needed couple/family downtime enjoying what you do.

Agree with the poster who said go to counselling on your own to start with if he won't entertain Relate or similar - and, in fact, if he will. If you're within reasonable striking distance of SW London I can recommend someone. Message me if you want (and I'll try to find my inbox, things have changed so much round here since back in my day when it were all fields).

LadyMountbatten · 07/04/2013 09:53

The dishwasher and laundry thing - meh. Who cares? That's just life. Don't be grateful for that.

BoffinMum · 07/04/2013 10:01

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BoffinMum · 07/04/2013 10:02

He got up at 9.30am today, btw.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 07/04/2013 10:31

re affairs, all his time spent away from the home isn't accounted for - many use working hours to conduct their affairs. I don't think he is having one but there is a link between this kind of entitled selfish behaviour and infidelity.

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