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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Wondering Where The Spring For Their Boing Is!

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Mouseface · 24/03/2013 12:23

Hi I'm Mouse

One of the Brave Babes on the Bus, a Bus full of different posters, some who drink more than they'd like to and are trying to stop, some who don't drink at all now, and some who are somewhere in the middle. :)

There's no judging here, no finger pointing, no rejection, just pure, unconditional, (occasionally tough), love and empathy.

We all share stories of how we got here, to have our seat on the Bus, looking for our own personal sobriety, our own personal happiness. Sometimes we talk about other things too, you know, like cake, cheese Wink and even day to day life, life that can lead us to breaking point......... lead us to hit rock bottom.

So, why not come say hi, take a seat, post, lurk, whatever suits you :)

This is our latest journey with a link to others

And this is the reason we're ALL here, the first ever thread

Hope to see you soon :)

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HorsesDogsNails · 11/04/2013 20:11

Hey Venus, I'm still here lurking and cheering you all on. I check this thread daily and am inspired by you all.

Isinde I love, love, love coffee cremes - that packet of revels would be perfect for me!!!

dementedma · 11/04/2013 20:13

Heybabyjane good for you.
indie serves you right for snacking. I had 3 lovely champagne truffles which I got from a random bunny murderer
Where hell is mouse

MintyyAeroEgg · 11/04/2013 21:30

I'm still here Venus. I read the thread most days. I don't often feel like posting, but not for bad reasons.

aliasjoey · 11/04/2013 21:56

Thanks faire had a crap day at work, really wanted a drink but DH refused to go and buy me any, he'd blocked my car in with his and it seemed like too much trouble to move it.

Just realised that it's all very well being smug and saying my drinking is controlled etc, that's easy enough under normal circumstances - but it's actually when times are rough that it's a real struggle. Still haven't solved that.

Great post venus

Well done babyjane

Mouseface · 11/04/2013 22:24

Evening, tis me, Mouse

I'm so, so, so, sorry to worry you all. Life has been very brutal, unkind and hard of late. I can't go into details now, I need more time. Much more. So, if you can, please bear with me.

I will be back, I'm so sorry not to NC everyone, and say hi to those new Babes. Welcome to you though, I'm not normally like this, at all. Blush

Life has been shitty, hard but is now looking lighter so I'll explain more tomorrow, I hope.

I'm sorry Babes I really am. Please don't worry about me. I'm okay :)

Mouse xxxxx

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venusandmars · 11/04/2013 22:48

mouse sending all the gentleness that you need x

babyjane good for you - hope you had a peaceful evening and wake up happy and bright in the morning.

ma and isindie funnily enough one of the bizarre consequences and after-effects of my terrible kidnapping, was that I found my mouth inexplicably stuffed with chocolate truffles......

obrigada · 12/04/2013 09:34

Morning, Mouse here's hoping today is looking a little brighter for you:)

Fairenuff · 12/04/2013 12:01

Mouse so sorry things are still really tough but thankyou for finding the time to post and let us know you're ok. You know what a bunch of mother hens we are x

Joey do you think your dh is actually trying to help you? This is the second time he has subtely not enabled the wine buying? Just a thought. Anyway, although it's so hard at the time, doesn't it feel great today. Are you still thinking to yourself, I wish I'd had wine last night? I bet not.

You are doing great. Controlled drinking is the hardest route to go. If you have to control it, there is still a compulsion to drink more often/too much than you'd really like, if it starts to take up too much head space, might be best to stop completely. How do you feel about that? Does it scare you or does it sound like a blessed relief?

I absolutely love not drinking. I cannot believe every day I wake up without a hangover. Still. It still feels great.

Not in a huge, boingy, excited way but in a sort of calm, serene, satisfied way. Keeping that feeling with me is what stops me drinking in the evening.

Small successes, small pleasures, just not having a headache, thumping heart, sweats, raging thirst, etc. Not feeling is crap is good enough for me. Making a promise to myself and keeping it, feels great to me.

Don't expect too much of yourself, just celebrate every little success. They soon add up you know.

Lemonylemon · 12/04/2013 12:12

Morning All:

Under a bit of pressure at the moment, nothing that my brother and sister are not suffering from as well.... It's been a bit tough, but I know I'm not alone. I also have you wonderful babes here too.

Only going to NC Mouse: Lovey, you take your time, try to centre yourself, get your footing again, and start on that parth again, slowly.... {{HUGE HUGS}} to you.

You all have a calm and peaceful weekend. Stay safe. xx

guggenheim · 12/04/2013 13:25

Hi gorgeous babes,

I have the boing todaySmile i don't always appreciate being sober and forget that it's a FUCKING miracle that I'm not drinking wine every night but today just feels good.

Yesterday felt crap so I'm not smug and some of this is related to hormones or sleep deprivation/ crazy ds but I don't really give a shit about the ww anymore. It's just a vague feeling that creeps up,easily got rid of by having a soft drink or getting out of the house.

Good to hear from you mouse even if circumstances are tough.

Big wave to lovely babes

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babyjane1 · 12/04/2013 13:59

It's so encouraging to hear such positive feedback regarding the amazing benefits of not drinking, I have daydreams about a new slim, fashionably dressed me with lustrous hair and dewy skin!! I have to say it would take a lot more intervention than just giving up wine but it's something to strive for. I did not miss my wine last night and after a few days off it I always feel so much better, calmer and happier so It continues to baffle me how I keep going back but I'm sticking to ODAAT and keep thinking of my dewy skin dream!! Thanks for all the encouragement you beautuful babes have shown me, right back atcha x x x x

dementedma · 12/04/2013 14:02

hey mouse thinking of you. Take deep breaths.
venus I much prefer the champagne truffle gag to the smelly sock for silencing my victims.
Its annoying you escaped so quickly - the Babes had scraped up 57p in loose change down the back of the bus seats for your ransom.
indie methinks the lady doth protest too much.....Grin

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aliasjoey · 12/04/2013 14:19

faire you could be right about DH, I've never thought of him as being subtle before - perhaps he has hidden depths? Grin

I don't know about giving up completely (although more willing to consider it than I was few months ago) but I am considering a new challenge, starting tonight I am wondering if I should not drink when I visit my family. Already managed this with DHs family, and it seems like an extension of a good idea.

Hmm writing that down has just made it seem scarily real.

Mouseface · 12/04/2013 14:19

Afternoon, tis, me, Mouse

Well, here goes. EPIC POST Sorry to ignore everyone, I will catch up properly later on. I hope those who have been struggling are feeling better? :) xx

Today I am feeling much better because I've managed to get an awful lot done in the last few days, hence my absence and my complete submersion in my own troubles, life and desperate attempts not to find the solution to all of my fears and worries at the bottom of a wine bottle........

You see the thing is with me, I'm great at giving out advice but taking it? Ahahahahahahaaaaaaaa, not. I have thought so many times about just hitting the Fuck It button because I couldn't cope with everyone needing something from me. I stiil have lots to do before Monday but nothing big, just little bits of finishing off. :)

In a nutshell (the size of an Elephant), I've been battling with the whole separation anxiety and leaving Nemo at preschool in preparation for when he goes to big school in September, simply because I won't be able to go into school when he's there to support him, no matter what.

So, my emotional state has been one off 'yyyyaaaaaaayyyyyy to aaarrrrrggggghhhhh' on an daily basis as things have come to mind and as his team of healthcare professionals have all given their thoughts, been in touch, asked questions, updated their paperwork pre statement and been giving me 'advice on the matter'

It's been hard, DH didn't know half of what had been going on because he has to work, and as you know, I was drinking too much (I admitted to that when last posted properly), that's stopped and has been stopped since I posted about it, but things kept building up.

Am I doing the right thing? Always questioning myself. Worrying that I'm letting him down by not floowing MY GUT, MY HEART.... Anyway, I have thought for some time that he is showing more and more signs of ASD the older he is getting and yes, you shouldn't compare your child/ren to their peers blah, blah, blah but when you're a parent, you just do and you know when things simply don't add up.

He's always had LDs and SALT issues, not to mention the other problems, his heart condition and hearing problems but as time has gone on, more things are coming to light.

I have been stressing about him going back to preschool on Monday because he's not been in that environment for well over two weeks and was poorly before they finished for the Easter Break, added to the fact that I have to leave him. We as a team, his school SENCO (not preschool) suggested that he was left for small amounts of time and then I go back, lots of his team thought the same, and I agreed 100%. This was ages ago because I remember posting about it, the small bursts of separation rather than them waiting for him to get very upset and crying before they contact me, undoing all of the hard work his 1 - 1 and I have put in thus far to get him to feel safe and happy there.

Then it was suggested that I go once he's settled, and they call me should he become very distressed. Nope, no thanks. Preschool had changed their minds again from being happy about what we'd agreed, the small bursts thing then me coming back after a short time, to going until I was called. I wasn't really happy but it's their preschool so I thought I had to go with them and that has been really upsetting me because EVERYONE ELSE in his team had said to do it gradually re leaving him. Not only that, his CAMHS lady said that I shouldn't just sneak away like preschool had suggested and I had been doing either because all of a sudden, I'd be gone, just like when he was in hospital, adding to the upset and exacerbating his PTSD.

His CAMHS lady said that I should think what I would like to happen, how he will handle it best, what do I think will happen when I go and not come back etc..... work it all out.

So I did. I came up with this.

Starting Monday, taking it ODAAT, Wink he will go into school at 9.30am avoiding the crowded rush and I will settle him, he'll play for a while and then I will calmly, gently,brightly tell him that I am leaving him for an hour and will be back at X o'clock to pick him up. Lots of smiles and happy faces, telling him I love him and then leave.

I then go back after an hour, ask how his day has been and bring him home. If I stay for the rest of the session, he'll expect me to be there all of the time so that's a better option imo.

I said that I would gradually increase the amount of time that I will be leaving him and he'll soon reach his three full hours before we know it, as long as things go well. It's what I think will work best for him right now and so that's what will happen.

I told all of this to his CAMHS and she said that was a fantastic solution to the problem of him getting used to me being in preschool with him, which he has been, and would call them on Monday to back me up 100%. She said I am absolutely doing the right thing and that I should follow my own feelings as I am the one who knows him best.

She is also getting a referral for him to have a full ASD assessment asap so that we can get the support that he may need in place before school starts in September.

His DLA has come through for renewal and lots of other things too, people wanting updates on him, I'm having to chase up appts that people are supposed have seen him for, my own health has been put on the back burner and I've been ill too.... I think I posted about that.

There's just been so much going on that I couldn't come on here to support anyone when I couldn't even support myself so I've been blocking out the real world and hiding on the Nobdies threads now and again Grin

Anyway, I am sorry for worrying you all so much, I know that you care about me and life has just been so bloody intense! I have wanted to scream so many times 'FUCK OFF' at the top of my voice. But I am sober, I've not given into the WW, nor the VodkaViking so I feel rather pleased with myself on that front because it would have been so easy to just get pissed and pass out. I've had so much whizzing around my head that sleep has been a thing I've had even less of!

My new physio hasn't been back in touch or tried to contact me to see how I'm getting on, so I think that for £40 a session, I will go back to my GP for a referral to the physio I used to see, get a second opinion, and get my instep for my shoe from the NHS, assuming that I do actually need it as £200 is not something I have right now Hmm.....

Nemo's been poorly too, DD has had friends here lots so it's been like a bloody B&B!!! Honestly, I'll be glad when she's back at school and the house is not full of squeeeees and the smell of food and perfume! Grin

Nemo is almost better, still a bit of a sore tummy he says but he's so gorgeous, he can say lollipop now :) which is a HUGE achievement in his little world. I'm going to put a new pic of him and DD on my profile too.

Well, there you have it, another epic waffling mouse post. Sorry but I feel better for posting about where I've been, how I've kicked the WW & VV asses and how I am now on top of the preschool battle.

That said, they could refuse to go with the plan, in which case, he'll be going somewhere else for the 12 weeks he has left before he goes to school.

Much love to you all, I will have a read back later and catch up. Need to go make a get well card for MIL and lunch for some teenage girls. xxxx

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aliasjoey · 12/04/2013 14:21

isinde photo of Aberdeenshire! Happy memories. Did you know that Emili Sande is from Alford. Not sure how she feels about rabbits...

Mouseface · 12/04/2013 14:23

Thanks Lemony - I appreciate you NCing me xx

And to Guggs and Ma, I'll be back Grin xx

IsinDe - your texts have kept a smile dancing on my lips over the past few days, the real (I can do this) me is almost back :) xx

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babyjane1 · 12/04/2013 14:23

Thanks inside and also meant to send a big hug to our much treasured mouse. TONIGHT I will not drink xxxxx

aliasjoey · 12/04/2013 14:30

mouse thanks for letting us know, although honestly you don't need to worry about us when you have so much else on your plate. We take it in turns to drive, the Bus has been to all sorts of places and got dirty and we had to clean it up... but we're fine.

That sounds like a great plan for Nemo. I'm glad they're listening to you. I know nothing about this so please do tell me to butt out if this makes no sense. I wondered if you can give him a picture or something to describe what he'll be doing while you're away. So he doesn't just think he's sitting around for an hour waiting for you. Umm I hope that doesn't just show my ignorance of the whole subject Blush

Mouseface · 12/04/2013 14:49

Joe - they are all about 'free play' at preschool so his one to one will make sure that he has lots of games to play or things to do :)

It's up to him what he does and they have even made him a quiet corner where only he can go (one child at a time) if he chooses too and doesn't want to join in or play. I imagine that's where he'll go for a while.

Thank you re driving the Bus, I was more worried that others were worried about where I was. I was mostly crying and sobbing about not knowing which direction to take. I had the school wanting info, preschool moving the goal posts, SALT making sure I was doing all of his work with him, appts to chase, people not coming back to me..... it all just built up and I kinda just got to breaking point and broke which is what was so brutal.

All those little things made one big, angry ball of hate and frustration. I hated myself. I hated my stupidity and ignorance at not knowing about the resources out there for him, I hated that I'd let things get to me, that I hadn't talked to DH and that I hadn't managed or coped and that I felt bullied by preschool.

My own emotions were bullying me if that makes sense?

Everything was just so raw and real and urgent and needed me to do it now. Then DH's Mom going in hospital, Easter, trying to see family, travelling meaning my pain was so high, being ill........ the lot.

Even money, the gas bill, food money, DD wanting to go out, top her phone up, so many little things all there pecking away at me.

Anyway, back to Nemo's day, I have done him a laminated week with activities on such going to school, coming home, playing, bath time, reading, painting etc and I'm going to do one for school so that they can show him that at X o'clock, mummy will be here to take him home.

Does that make sense? I hope you know what I mean re the free play but his 1 - 1 will be keeping him busy. Not only that, he is going to be meeting his new 1 - 1 that he'll have in school so that's another pressure as I wanted to be involved with the interview process (I am allowed to be) but the school have just appointed a lady who already worked there - another thing that was taken out of my control and changed.......

Sorry, I've started off again!! Grin

Thank you for your suggestion, I know that they will have lots for him to do and that first hour will fly by :) xx

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Mouseface · 12/04/2013 14:49

And you're not ignorant, you just don't have a Nemo is all :) xx

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venusandmars · 12/04/2013 15:15

mouse