can't sleep won't sleep 3

[KittyAndTheFontanelles]

over hear night owls . Unless we are somewhere else

a little bit like an x-rated version of 'grandpa in my pocket'

soy allergy, mini? or gluten? gluten is most definitely in soy sauce, and is everywhere and we are all on a gluten intolerant spectrum allegedly... perhaps you are at the very extreme allergic end?

mini?

Just torn myself away from admiring my bejewelled vajazzle to join in with you guys! Yes, Camberwick Green is in Essex!

Thanks, cafe for your concern; I'm fine and hope that you are feeling ok!

kitty - My children were all BF, the first 2 until I became pregnant again which was when they were both 10 months old. They both went off BM before I knew that I was pg. Sadly, third baby did not survive. BF baby no. 4 until she was nearly 2 y-o. Completely unnecessary as she could eat, drink and walk independently but was used to snuggling in to me for comfort (e.g. if she had a little tumble, etc, she would climb on to my lap and undo my buttons or push up my top). My mother bf me until I was 2 1/2 but wanted to stop as we were going on holiday. She put salt on her nipples. Apparently, it worked immediately. I did the same thing with my DD to stop her. It worked but I missed the closeness of the baby desperately - she never turned a hair after the initial "Yuk." Would not now recommend this method as think that it is probably dangerous but can remember the joy of energy returning and my DD not bothering with bf any more!

anyone still here? for once I was having a nice sleep, but dd fell out of bed for a second time within an hour, verrrrry loudly... I'm up then

just been catching up
sd the gnome, hmm. Will stop there before things get rude. lol at cafe, multiple posts and jynier - never heard of salt on nips... well you learn somethin new every day they say (and I am certainly not learning the stuff I'm supposed to )

Been up since 2. She's having a big cry fest tantrum.ist unlike her.

most unlike her.

Sorry about your daughter's tumble, Mrs. is she ok?

She's finally gone off. That was awful. I just don't know what this is about at the moment. She's such a lovely, good natured, placid baby usually, I'm not used to this. I feel awful

She's sobbing in her sleep now. . I'm just expected to go off to sleep myself now feeling this shitty

Sorry I'm letting the side down.

I should be talking about vajynier's vajazzling and hills and gnomes and giant vaginas.

I definitely still see Roger Daltry, sorry dad. I'm sure I'm way off the mark

she's awake again and crying

Sounds horrid, kitty - are you ok?

Lawyer turned financial crime/regulatory specialist, cafe. With a sideline in pithy summaries of topics that consume entire books (no patience, me ). So I'd be a terrible lecturer.

How's the film, SD?

Just re-read kitty's posts. jynier, you have to change your name to vajynier now...

Hi bluey no I'm not really.

I know its nothing compared to what you and others are having to face but this is hard for me at the moment. We've just had porridge and she's chatting happily at the moment, first time all night. She's yawning too. I just don't know what this is. two days and two nights....

How are you though bluey?

No sleep is hard, whatever's causing it. I wish I had some pearls of wisdom/a magic wand to offer you but it sounds like you've been through the standard "solutions" already? Does she sleep in the day at all? Bizarrely, both mine slept better at night when they were toddlers if they'd slept in the day, the idea of keeping them awake in the day so they slept better at night never seemed to work. The sleep couldn't be too late in the day though or then things did go to pot a bit.

I'm ok, I have toxic burning feet and spent most of yesterday in bed, but it will get better. Tbh, I'm more disturbed by DD being off on her first ever sleepover - the house is so quiet without her!

Oh dear bluey how very growed up How old is she?

I'm sorry about your burning too . There's nothing I can suggest either but here are done more

I agree about daytime sleeps. her average 24 hrs would be 11hrs at night broken maybe once or twice for a feed then 2 hrs in the middle of the day. That's why this is so awful and worrying. She had only four hours Sunday night and nothing Monday day and 5 hours last night. She's been fine if I am playing with her and apart from snottiness doesn't seem particularly unwell but tonight she's just cried and cried. It's so unlike her and sad but also draining.

I've finally lost my temper a bit and snapped "no" when she pinched me for the umpteenth time tonight. Feel like a heel now Pain threshold reduces with tiredness doesnt it. I hate when I have a fail in communication like that.

She's gone off again now but won't last I'm sure of it.

DD is 6 (going on 16 sometimes, bless her). She is with her very best nursery friend and they've known each other since they were tiny, so she'll be having a blast, it's just me being paranoid Mummy now!

Don't beat yourself up, please, kitty - sleep deprivation is a form of torture for a reason and fwiw I'd have cracked long ago if I was in your shoes. for you, too.

Oh I can't imagine sleep overs! I totally understand your paranoia

Thank you for your words and the flowers, you are very kind. I've just got into bed as my husband gets up for work. I can hear her snuffling about in her cot, let's hope it's in her sleep. Thank you for talking. I hope your feet start to cool soon.

Hugs to you Kitty try and get our head down when she sleeps

Im cold dressed fed but have to deice the car in a bit not much sleep tosding and turning heartburn and leg pain with a sorning dp last night cant wait till home at 1:40 then can sleep for 90mins then get ready for 5-10 shift sigh going to be a long day

No sleep is a nightmare! I got to 7 months with DD2 & couldn't take any more so went cold turkey I'm afraid & did controlled crying mummy nervous breakdown. Maybe because she was my 4th child I was tougher?
Cafe - the pelvis - male or female? Makes a difference for obvious reasons!!

stars, you need and good luck with that scary sounding day.
I have to confess to having though vajynier too

hope kitty got some zzzs in the end. don't beat yourself up. they all need a sharp word sometimes. it sounds like littlekitty is under the weather, it won't last. hope she's better soon.

dd is a bit (more) bruised but fine. she's not used to a "normal" bed as she has a mid sleeper with side rails the second time she fell out of bed last night she said sorry - presumably for the huge noise as she took a cup, tin of pencils and a couple of books out as she went Id put a pillow beside the bed so she landed mostly on that.
bluey, hope the burning crawlies go away soon. for good sending

sd & jynier - did you sleep?

mw... lol at male or female

Got to work early ( go me on the enusticasm ) (sp) so at home a bit early was wanting to have a bath while pizza in oven but dp is in it playing games on his phone. Busy day today lots of post and all the rates have gone up so had to reprogram mary the meter manchine and work out all the new postages via the new poster
( I know alot of them off by heart so know that i am pressing tge right buttons on mary) work on my 5-10 shift will be a nightmare tonight if i get chucked on meter post as more post with new rates they always choose me when busy so i have written the main ones down to learn swot person that i am