Why are so many people up at this hour? Thread 2

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This is what happens, jynier

Continue uninterrupted....

gettin in early tonight

Waves to Mrs Sherk

oi. shrek as in big green ogre thing. not sherk, fanks

I need to catch up. Hope jynier, kitty and mini have had a rest today after their all-nighter.

I slept for the first time in months. Almost five hours worth in total, and disturbances were only for 15-20 mins, not the customary few hours. most folk would call that a bad night but to me it's brilliant

How's everyone doing? I'm off to read the last couple of pages and find out if we've moved on from, erm, hills and stuff.

walks through the door, big sigh, bags of books THUD onto the floor, cafe collapses in a heap in her once tidied apartment, and eats 3 bars of chocolate for dinner

hello all!

kitty - Have just seen your post. Tomorrow will be the 40th anniversary of the loss of my third child. Was just over 5 months pregnant ( same as Kate Middleton now). Poor little baby didn't stand a chance really and is buried in Ireland; I know not where.

Thank you so much for your kindness. Have decided to say nothing to anyone as I am the only person with the memories now and I will light a candle, too.

A mother never forgets.

I was meant to be working today, but I skived so I won't get paid, but equally, I needed a day off, but it wasn't a day off anyway sigh sigh sigh

jynier I, like kitty, would like to light a candle for you tomorrow. Unless you say otherwise, I will light a candle and leave it burning throughout the day.

I know you are not religious, but not having faith or religion doesn't mean you can't be spiritual or have beliefs. I don't know if anniversaries are any easier for those with faith than without. it seems that way, sure, because there is a reassurance for that person, but it's not necessarily so. I think a lot of people would reexamine their faith should such a thing happen to them, and may find it is stronger than ever, or may struggle to ascribe to the same beliefs as before.

What are you thinking of doing for the day?

sorry, I x-posted jynier. I am so sorry to hear what happened. I imagine in many ways it feels like it could have been yesterday-

I think you should do something special to mark the day, can you go on a trip somewhere?

Aaw, cafe, you are so kind. I am one of those Roman Catholics who became disgusted with the scandals but I am very fortunate to live in a small village which has a community based around the church (for anyone who so wishes). Our vicar is great and he was extremely kind and caring 2 years ago when my little brother was so ill.

He came to my house and said a prayer for my lost baby, my bro and my best friend. Seemed to mainly concentrate on "Lord, let Jynier get through this." I didn't think that I was the one who needed help (I WAS ON MY KNEES PLEADING THAT MY LITTLE BRO WOULD BE SAVED FOR THE SAKE OF HIS FAMILY!) but he was very kind

The vicar put my bro on the prayer list, and my beloved B laughed when I told him and said "Every Little Helps!"

Am rambling now with so many different recollections! Sorry!

Delivered my little baby myself; the umbilical cord was like a piece of string.

oh jynier was anyone with you? I can't imagine. what was his name?

re praying, etc, I think that there is a lot of truth in the power of prayer- be it a religion, or other spiritual belief, or some universal energy- even intrinsically, the act of saying a prayer, is very beneficial. As is hope. I'm quite fascinated by the field of psychoneuroimmunology in terms of health outcomes for instance

Anyway that's irrelevant, but I am glad that you have such a lovely vicar

A quick wave, and hugs for Jynier. Psychoneuroimmunology is fascinating, I once went to a lecture by a doc. who had been researching. Amazing outcomes.
I am looking forward to spending an evening with my dd2 this evening. It happens rarely. How did your tutorial go cafe.

hugs jynier. i hope you are able to mark your baby's birthday in a way that gives you comfort. even if it's something like buying some flowers and having them in the house. any plans yet? Will be thinking of you today.
cafe and mini that sounds fascinating (puts psychologist hat back on) - tell more?

jynier, today belongs to you and your baby.

Thank you all for your very kind thoughts; you have all helped me greatly.

A few months after my best friend died, her son visited and brought a big bag of Christmas presents from her for me and my GC. One of her presents to me was a scented candle in a beautifully decorated ceramic pot. I was deeply moved but never lit it. Decided to do so today and noticed, for the very first time, that there is a message on the side. It says, "May this little candle light up your day!"

Once again, thank you all from the bottom of my heart!

Well, you couldn't have chosen a more perfect use for that candle. How lovely. I hope it did light your day, and your heart.

hope that it made you smile a little jynier

I lit my candle for you and your little boy today, jynier. it's still burning brightly in my windowsill. next to my azalea that I bought 'for' DD then never took there, so it's now living in my window

had a loong day of conference today - but was enjoyable and learnt lots.

did not go to dance class, did not want to see anyone- feeling grouchy. but went home via royal festival hall and had some fabulous soup overlooking the river.

fabulous soup and river view sounds awesome, just what you need, cafe!

who's in for the long haul tonight then? i rarely sleep in Sunday nights. no clue why I actually like my job so it's not the dreading Monday morning thing that a lot of folk do.

just about starting to watch a movie now, so I guess I am also in ...

what are a watching SD? not ghost please

at grapes

Can't keep my eyes open

Thank you, all, for your messages and especially to SummerDad for starting this thread. I hate the grief and bereavement sites, especially "Gone Too Soon." My little boy was called Patrick (obviously!) and the reason that I did not want to mention his 40th anniversary to anyone in my huge family is that my beloved 6th niece is expecting her first baby. There were problems with her pregnancy but, to my joy and quite out of the blue, she sent an unsolicited message this evening to say that everything is fine and she is looking forward to the birth of her daughter in 3 months time.

Want to add that I intended to curl up in bed in misery all day today but, thanks to the support and posts of you guys, decided to go for a walk at lunchtime. Headed for the highest spot in the village so that I could look across to the river. It was such a gloomy day but, suddenly, the clouds opened and I could feel the sunshine on my face! Amazing!

So sorry that this post has been me, me, me! I know that many of you have so many troubles and hope that you will all find a solution to your problems and ailments!

Thank you all, once again! My little boy has received more love and acknowledgment of his existence from this thread than he did when he died 40 years ago.