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Dating thread 44

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lubeybooby · 01/03/2013 09:46

Here we go - all dating chat here!

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BeforeAndAfter · 04/03/2013 23:04

Hi OWW

I don't normally post so apologies if you feel I'm intruding but I did just want to mention a thought to you.

First of all, I think you might (note the cunning caveat) be getting through the worst with LM and he's now realising, and admitting, what an arse he's been; he's just not doing it as articulately and thoughtfully as you would, probably because he doesn't know how.

With my ex I found that when I was overwrought and trying to be heard I often couldn't counter his points well during any "talk" and I would then end up off track, missing my point or just petering out and then regretting it the next morning.

What worked for us was that I would write a letter, addressing the points I wanted to make and then give it to him to read through while I was there. The first time I did this I explained to him that it took the emotion out of the message plus it had the advantage of making sure that he could re-read what I was trying to say, which really helped. He was a bit geeky and I think he really did absorb the message well that way. I only ever used writing for the big deals, so it was only a few times, but it did work and he did tell me he appreciated and preferred it. Given that he's now an ex, maybe I should have done that more often Hmm.

If I were you I would hang in there, just a bit longer - I agree with what you said a couple of threads up about the "what ifs" if you didn't. While I agree with much of Lubey's sentiment I wonder if this is his way of saying the big sorry - he just doesn't know how to do it properly.

Do bear in mind, though, once the shop is open, there'll be new and different headaches to distract him so watch out on that score. I have everything crossed for you.

Good luck!

Scattylatte · 04/03/2013 23:09

oww I hope you get some middle ground soon.
48 hoping home is a smooth transition.
snape yay!
velvet free legal advice is worth it's weight in gold. You are a good friend.

Me: loads and loads of pressure at work at the moment. Can't afford to leave but keep looking for contingency plans. Fireman going ok. After his 'don't fall in love with me' speech I see him one a week for dinner and sex. We text in between (mainly about sex) and he phones me. I don't bother phoning him as ages ago when I did he was in a rush both times. So last week he asked whether we could see each other more than once a week. Fine with me as I do really like him and he does me. The issue is that he keeps telling me he is needy and apologising for being needy and he isn't either. Tonight I was telling him I'd felt like I'd had a panic attack at work when lots went wrong and I'd got millions of phone calls at once. He then text me to say he was sorry for being needy and not considering my feelings.....it wasn't about him, I was saying that when I'm under huge pressure I felt panicky. So then I spend time reassuring him that all is well with him. It's mildly draining.

lubeybooby · 04/03/2013 23:12

OWW, well, that conversation is done with now and again you did spectacularly well, and now you have answers too instead of guesswork, and he knows you want to be able to have an enjoyable time with him

See how it goes when the shop is opened, nothing has really changed since you were saying earlier that you wanted to see how it went, you just have something more concrete to go on as to his thoughts that's all.

However if he keeps refusing help for depression and things don't improve and he's just a big ball of angst all the time then maybe review it again then.

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ike1 · 05/03/2013 00:45

Has anyone looked at the crap tats fbook page....it has cheered me right up!(soz cant do links)

VoiceofUnreason · 05/03/2013 01:02

Happy birthday to me!!! I've just turned 39. Thank god I still look about 33 or I'd be turning to the bottle to drown the realisation I am now in my 40th year. Oh dear.... Still, I shall celebrate later in appropriate fashion although someone put a smile on my face with some lovely compliments earlier tonight which was a great boost.

KirstyWirsty · 05/03/2013 05:56

Happy birthday voice

oww I know just how you feel .. Constant drama here too .. Maybe best to wait and see when the smoke clears if you still want to hang around

velvet what's his reason for not replying to texts within 24 hours??

snape glad it's going well

Mr cheeky is needing space to get all his problems sorted out .. So I am a bit fed up ... I should be elated .. Financial settlement was finally agreed on Friday and I'm off the New York with lovingfreedom this weekend for one of my friend's weddings .. But instead I am sad as he won't let me help or support him .. He says he is not finishing with me but he is at rock bottom and needs to get sorted by himself Hmm and he will be 'back to get me'

OhWesternWind · 05/03/2013 07:03

Happy birthday dear Voy-oyce, happy birthday to you.

Pretty pissed off this morning. It is all just silly nonsense and a non-issue. Actually, I suspect it's his depression talking but I know he won't get help. However, we'll see how it goes.

I want to have a good time and fun instead of all this heaviness and hard work.

Kirsty - have a wonderful weekend and forget about all the dramatic twattery. Some decisions coming soon for both of us, I think.

OhWesternWind · 05/03/2013 07:26

And thank you all for your advice, as always.

Flipper924 · 05/03/2013 07:32

Happy birthday, Voice!

lubeybooby · 05/03/2013 07:38

Happy Birthday Voice! :o

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MirandaWest · 05/03/2013 07:41

Happy birthday Voice :)

48howdidthathappen · 05/03/2013 07:46

Have a fab day Voice Smile you are a mere youngster.

ike1 · 05/03/2013 09:19

Happy birthday VOICE! 'Someone', 68, in Marbella 'winked' me on Match .....waddya reckon....Anna Nicole Smith potential?

OhWesternWind · 05/03/2013 09:20

Kirsty just read your post again. What do you think about what Mr Cheeky is doing? Sounds like it is getting you down. Do you think you're going to wait for him to sort himself out (if that's going to happen) or is it time to move on?

I'm feeling more and more inclined to move on . . . Children will be upset, though, as they really like his dcs. Will be difficult to tell them. And my blooming mother. Have even had a little lurk on Match this morning, though.

Great news on getting the financial settlement sorted, by the way. It's awful how good things in your life are overshadowed by shit in someone else's, know the feeling well.

lubeybooby · 05/03/2013 09:31

THUD_

I have a reply from Mr iPhone. Wow, only took about four days.

Trying to arrange a date when I get back from my trip.

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ike1 · 05/03/2013 09:31

Oh and I messaged a guy on POF last night ...different city to me but fairly close....nice looking guy, similar tastes (hardly anyone of interest in my city). Gave him my best lines.

Got 'Ha,ha, brilliant.xx' at 4:30am this morning in return.

Should I bother responding? If potential suitors were not so thin on the ground I wouldn't even be bothered to think about it. Smacks of laziness. Any views kindly received. Not only that but what's he doing at 4:30am on POF? Effing early start to HIS day!

ike1 · 05/03/2013 09:32

God lubes Mr I-phone is giving me constipation.

OhWesternWind · 05/03/2013 09:33

Well Ike it's not really a line to encourage a conversation, is it? Why bother sending something like that? But maybe one more chance, perhaps the lateness/earliness of the hour was affecting his capacity for scintillating conversation . . .

The thought of going back to trawling through all the shite online is really depressing.

OhWesternWind · 05/03/2013 09:35

What did he say, Lubey? Hope it was worth waiting for . . .

ike1 · 05/03/2013 09:37

Maybe OWW...I guess I would rather be ignored....less patronising. What you going with your day Voice?

KirstyWirsty · 05/03/2013 09:40

OWW I really like him .. I am prepared to give him a bit of time but will also keep options open I.e if I meet anyone in RL in the meantime .. He says he wants to get himself sorted so that he has no more dramas but he's been separated 4 years and nothing has been sorted so I am not holding my breath

OhWesternWind · 05/03/2013 09:45

Kirsty there has to be a limit on the amount of time though. How long are you thinking of? I know I'm not going to meet anyone in RL so it's actually going to be a conscious decision to start looking again . . . I don't know, I think these men love the drama of it and having someone fussing round and talking to them about their problems and being the centre of attention. It could all be sorted out much more easily with a lot less fuss and tararadiddle.

Lovingfreedom · 05/03/2013 09:46

I just noticed your post KW Sad .... chin up love.... let's get our arses stateside and have some fun. Wine

ike1 · 05/03/2013 09:47

Yes OWW it is very tempting to stick with the 'devil you know'.

lubeybooby · 05/03/2013 09:47

Not really OWW! he just said he was on lates this week but free after Saturday. Well that's when I'm away so I asked how next week is - he replied immediately Shock saying not sure but that we'll definitely sort something out.

So yeah... I'm not particularly excited about him or anything but I'll definitely get this next date and mercilessly take the piss out of him for all the late replies, and try and get to the bottom of it all.

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