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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Are Going To Need A Bigger Bus!

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Mouseface · 08/01/2013 11:59

Hello, tis me, Mouse Smile

Welcome to the Brave Babes Battle Bus, it's a place of solace, support and sanctuary, but also it's also a Bus full of chatterboxes, waffling on about all sorts!

Our aim this year is to kick the WineWitch or WW into touch and get sober!

Some of the Babes on board are doing Dry January, some drink in moderation, some just drink. Some of us are sober, some of us are trying so very, very hard to be.

Some of us have been dry for days, weeks, months and some of us years...... some of us are just starting out and are scared of what stopping drinking means. It's not forever, it's just for today if that's what you want.

We have a saying on the Bus One Day At A Time. Or ODAAT Smile

Take each moment, each day and each blip as it comes.

Although some Babes have been here a while and kind of 'know' each other, we all have different lives, different roles to play, different places to sit on the Bus, but we ALL have or have had abusive relationships with alcohol and we're here because we want that to change; for the better.

EVERYONE IS WELCOME HERE so don't be afraid to just jump right in and say hello. Post as much or as little as you like! It's all up to you.

For those who want to catch up - here is the PREVIOUS THREAD

And the first ever thread, with links to the others over the last almost 3 years! FIRST THREAD

OP posts:
aliasjoey · 11/01/2013 22:47

ma so now you are not only a shining beacon of sobriety and the leader of the Boot Camp, now you are the expert on teenage girls?! please come round and sort out my DD, she is only 10, but everything you've said already applies Hmm

NewYearNewMia · 11/01/2013 22:56

Just briefly as I'm knackered. Had the two small glasses of red I'd planned and a sip of DP's port. I'm pleased with that and that I didn't want more, especially as I've agreed to go up to xDP's house tomorrow for eight fucking thirty to wait in all morning for some deliveries to arrive. [mug emoticon] DD is not going to be impressed when I wake her at just after 7am for a 45 min drive to a cold empty house! Hmm Still, she's thrilled to be seeing her dad later, as he's working away at the mo.

Soma so glad it went well with DD xxx

Purple dating is a minefield, isn't it, and I think we've imported the whole American concept too... dates, are we 'exclusive' yet, etc etc. I met DP on a dating website and we've been together coming up 8 years, so I can vouch that it does sometimes pay off. Smile

Hope everyone's feeling better for having made it through a sober night. I can tell youmthat my couple of glasses wasn't exciting. It was pleasant, but if you're craving the excitement then you'd need a lot more booze than that, so don't kid yourself that a couple of glasses would do because it wouldn't. So the choice if you're bored is either to drink enough to really alter your state of mind (which is certainly enough to make you feel rough the next day), or find something else to do. Wink

Night Brave Babes xx

guggenheim · 12/01/2013 00:04

Right well you can stop oiling that squid for a start!

I did a night out with my drinking friends and this time I stayed sober. But I had a long,hard look at the bottle of sparkly stuff as I sipped my mint tea. Some of my friends were a bit tiddly and they were fine, just a bit silly I suppose. I get stupid very quickly so, not drinking is by far the best option for me.

I did have a moment when I realised that I was the most sober person in the room and that I was following all of the conversation.Yeah, I feel good about that.Funny, I don't feel boingy at all. Maybe I will in the morning though.

Night babes

LRDtheFeministDragon · 12/01/2013 00:12

Just checking in very quickly (falling asleep).

End of day 2 for me, thank you for everything babes.

Sleep well.

ohcluttergotme · 12/01/2013 08:47

Morning brave babes, hope everyone managed ok last night or comfy in the side car. I went to visit a friend & was determined not to drink. My friend said "why not bus it over" or you could leave your car? Or your welcome to stay? Then showed me lovely bottle of champagne we could share! I would definitely have caved a few months ago but stayed strong & we had a nice night, a catch up & Chinese & I've woke up with no hangover. Day 8 for me & determined to have a dry January. Think I've been stuck in a depressed rut with drinking wine Friday & Saturday nights out of sheer habit then feeling awful, shit mum all weekend. Starting to feel like a fog is lifting & starting to realise that life has things in it to look forward to. Have not felt like there has been much to look forward to for the last 18 months.

soma & purple & all other poor babes who are negotiating the difficult path that is teenage daughters I so feel your pain. My dd is going to be 14 in April & I think since she turned 13 I lost my lovely, good girl overnight. She is lovely & charming to all others apart from me & dh. I'm taking comfort from what was said earlier (sorry can't remember who) about the fact that she will get better. I just hope I manage not to kill her first! Sad

smellslike hope your feeling ok today, and hope if not you can go easy on yourself. Sounds like you have a lot on your plate just now

Boot camp going well, I've lost 3 lbs! (altho not weighed this morning & had Chinese last night Sad )

Wishing all babes a good day Smile xx

PurpleWolfe · 12/01/2013 08:55

Morning Babes Just checking in.

Well done Guggs for your strength last night! Sometimes I find those situations easy-ish and others - almost impossible. Don't you get tired quicker if you don't drink? I just want to go home early Sad. Hoping your feel 'boingy' about your achievement this morning - you should!

Thanks for the good news about you and your DP Mia It's nice to know it works sometimes. The TV ad says 'one in five' new relationships are now forged on-line. I've 'known' TF for about 8 weeks now - but only one date as yet (lots of phone calls, texts and e-mails) so the 'exclusiveness' question doesn't come into it yet. I'm hopeful though..... And I soo know what you mean about the 2 glasses thing. It seems like a good compromise but it's just not enough once you start. Good for you, stopping at two.

Bad night sleep for me and the wine dreams re-emerged. More sneaky, underhand work of the Wine Witch. Now I know they are 'normal' they don't bother me. Day 2 sober - under my belt and 2lb disappeared from - under my belt! Smile Small steps but steps, nonetheless.

LRD You and me, Day 3 buddies! Let's don our Big Pants, pull them up under our armpits and hurtle into the day with strong resolve to repel WW at all borders! Standing by with the (now 'oiled'!) squid should anyone, including me, need it. [grins]

Have a good day Babes

PurpleWolfe · 12/01/2013 09:01

Thanks Clutter and well done you for last night! Champagne is so hard to resist (for me - as I've proved!). My DD goes from helpful, kind and I'm able to have a sensible conversation with her to stroppy, unreasonable and hurtful in the blink of an eye! It's such hard work! Like your DD, she's lovely with everyone else so, I suppose, that's something to be proud of. Deep sigh. xxx

SobaSoma · 12/01/2013 09:45

Mia well done on stopping at two but you're so right - if you want the excitement/altered state of mind that alcohol can provide, you need to drink enough to make you feel crap/guilty/fed-up the next day. Gugg and Clutter have a lovely hangover-free Saturday - just think how different it would be if you'd drunk last night.

Woken by a call from my mum this morning. My poor brother who lives with my parents (he's 53 :() has always suffered from depression but is in the grip of something so awful right now that he can barely speak. He told me just now that he "doesn't want to be conscious" and "feels like he's disappearing". Told mum to get a doctor round as he needs urgent medical help. Will probably drive down and see if I can be of any help. Catch you later.

PurpleWolfe · 12/01/2013 09:52

That's awful Soma. I hope he gets some respite from this soon. You take care of you, too, and try not to let this turn your head towards WW. Hugs Sweet. x

needsaspaceonthebus · 12/01/2013 10:19

I have been lurking here for a while now, and was wondering if I can ask for a space in the side car. I really should try to get on the bus, but realistically, I can't imagine that to happen any time soon.
I've never had a sensible relationship with alcohol, but in the last couple of years, I've really slipped into bad habits. I've managed to remain highly functional as a professional and somewhat functional as a parent, but lately my drinking has really started to make a mark on my life. One bottle of wine on week nights, twice that on the weekend. I have a stressful job and a monster commute, and Saturdays, I'd be lying on the sofa recovering from that and my horrible hangover, unable to properly engage with DC, who, let's face it, suffer.
Last week, inspired by reading here, I called it quits (after serious, unreasonable overindulgence in pretty much the whole of December). I spent a week without booze. Oh my god, the difference was amazing. My crippling depression - gone. My feelings of self hate, my lack of self worth - gone. I was energised at work, and managed to spend quality time with DC in the evening. I slept like a baby (not having slept longer than 4 am unless totally knocked out by alcohol for 18 months). All these silly, intense but thoroughly negative emotions I had disappeared. It became a non-brainer for me, I've got to ditch it for a good while, before I can slowly begin to think about controlled drinking (I can't envisage life totally without, mainly due to the company I'm keeping).
I was full of enthusiasm. Read here, several times a day, which helped keeping me on the straight and narrow.Then came Friday. Already on the train home from work, I knew that I will drink. So I did. At least a bottle.
The hangover wasn't as bad as usual, probably because of the abstinence period. I have now come to the decision that I accept to cave in on Friday, if needs to be, but no other day of the week, which I think I can manage. There's too much at stake - DC, work, health, looks (I got puffed up and red in the face at the end, not great.
I hope you'll have me anyway. I enjoy your company and I find you all inspiring. I'm quite lonely in RL (which is probably my main trigger other than stress) I have a lovely family, but not much in terms of friends, so I could do with the company!
Sorry for the novel!

greeneyed · 12/01/2013 10:29

You are more tham welcome needsa well done on taking action, what are your plans to keep away from thw wine today. Do you have any in the house? If so can you take it to the car, garage etc. Anywhere it will be a bit more inconvenient to get to. What will you do this evening instead?

ohcluttergotme · 12/01/2013 10:43

Hugs soma how awful for your db too feel so sad & helpless. Must be so hard for your dm to see her son in such a bad way. Agree that he needs to see a GP or psychiatric services asap ((( ))) Welcome needsa I so understand that fog of depression, since I have cut back, cut out wine for the first time in 18 months I am starting to feel that fog lifting. Do you have a strategy for today to help you not drink today, tonight? Sending positive vibes & hugs to you (( )) Smile

Tigerinthegrass · 12/01/2013 10:43

Hi needsa your story is so similar to us all. Well done on your week off. I always found Fridays the worse but I have to drive early sat morning so now sat night is my downfall. I'm hoping for a dry jan (12 days today) but will prob try limit to one night a week after that. It's amazing how quickly you start to like yourself again isint it, a few days off and you feel so much healthier and stronger.

SobaSoma · 12/01/2013 10:44

Thanks Purple, my parents are taking him to hospital so at least he'll be seen. Will do my best to fend off WW! What are you doing today?

You're welcome with open arms Needsa. Your story is very similar to my own and right now I'm trying to remain sober but about once every 2 weeks I just need a drink so bad, I have a bottle of wine. The bus keeps me on track and like you say, the company is wonderful.

SobaSoma · 12/01/2013 10:50

Thanks Clutter yes awful for my mum and my dad has depression too! Families eh?

Fairenuff · 12/01/2013 10:53

Welcome to the bus needs. When I joined I was nearly up to a bottle a night, for no good reason really, just 'relaxing in the evening'. I decided to cut down and found it really hard. I thought I wasn't going to be able to do it and would be stuck with slowly drinking myself to death.

But the bus gave me loads of strategies to get through those difficult trigger times and avoid picking up the first drink. Because the first one is the only one we have to avoid right?

I stopped drinking on Monday evenings. Then, when I was used to that I stopped drinking on Tuesdays too. Two whole alcohol free days a week!

Then after a while I added Wednesdays and you can see where this is going Smile.

Fridays and Saturdays were the hardest to cut out for obvious reasons. But one week I just decided to go for it and it wasn't as hard as I'd thought it was going to be.

So, one day at a time, just cut back whatever you can and see if that helps.

Get in a stock of lovely alternative drinks. I like lime & soda with ice and a slice of lemon. Or peppermint and licorice tea. Or hot chocolate for a sweet fix. Get some sweet treats in too to replace the sugar you're not getting from alcohol. Eat well, nourish your body and rest when you can.

When the trigger time rolls around, plan, plan, plan to do something else instead. It will pass and every single day that you don't drink will be a massive boost to your self esteem and a great health boost to your body.

Fairenuff · 12/01/2013 11:11

Guggs and Clutter well done! Just shows what we can do when we are determined to do it. You should feel very proud of yourselves this morning. And no hangovers, yay Smile

aliasjoey · 12/01/2013 11:17

welcome needs you will find loads of support and advice on here!

well done clutter on avoiding the champagne

day 8. I will not be drinking today. have now managed 4 times at my in-laws sober (a year ago I wouldn't have thought it possible to do ONE!) and it's never as bad as I expect it to be.

I can do controlled drinking at home, but at the PILs I becomes demanding and obnoxious Grin and always regret it!

needsaspaceonthebus · 12/01/2013 13:11

Hi everybody and thank you for your kind welcome Smile. It feels good to be here! As for tonight, we have plenty of wine in the house, and always will have - DH likes it and refuses not to buy it. Only concession he sometimes makes is buying stuff I don't like quite so much. So it's all down to my own willpower, I'm afraid. And he's having his friend round tonight which is likely going to go on all night and get quite boozy. Normally, I'd join in, but I've excused myself today (it's not a formal thing, and won't be seen as rude), and made plans to watch a movie with my DD. After that, I'll be here!
I think I'll be ok. I have a smallish hangover today, but because I've not had one for a week, I'm much more conscious about it, and it annoys me. I know I'd have much more energy to dedicate to my well deserving DC if I hadn't, and that's my main motivator for tonight.

jesuswhatnext · 12/01/2013 13:54

needsa - your first post described me pretty well! Grin - i dont know how i did it! life was totally exhausting Sad i was taking anti-ds for a very long time, pretty much the first thing i felt was the fog lifting, a huge weight lifting from my thoughts, it was a wonderful feeling to actually feel again after all those years - am now menopausal with all that entails, feeling the old 'empty nest' thing now my only child is well and truely married and living a couple hundred miles away - i have no doubt that i would have had to stay on the pills and possibly even increase the dosage had i carried on in the way i was - life is so much more interesting now, i have so much more time, for friends, hobbies (extra work Hmm) i love pottering all summer in the garden, not just looking at the weeds with a glass in my hand and wondering why my garden dosent look like nextdoors - sorry, am rambling now Blush i'm just trying to say 'keep at it'!! keep fighting it, it gets easier, its gets better! being sober dosent make all the shit in life disappear, it just makes it all so much easier to deal with!

love to all, im off to a party tonight! Grin Grin see you all soon!

L XXXX

EastHollyDaleStreet · 12/01/2013 13:56

Hello all and welcome needs so sorry soba I hope all works out ok - depression is so hideous :( clutter guggs purple alias faire mia mouse green. I bet I've missed some people out -sorry,keep scrolling up and and down Grin Needless to say everyone how are you all doing??? I had my second great nights sleep and woke at about six with dd Molly saying 'get that cat OFF my bed' Grin. We settled him down and I went back to bed, but feeling so well. I just went back to sleep because I wanted to, not because I felt so ill I couldn;t move. It's a great feeling. Went to Tescos (the excitement!!!) to get some passport photos done for Molly, and have just pottered about tidying and reading. She has a friend over for the night - I have informed dh of my intention to go swimming at around 8pm Grin . I hope everyone has a good day. No snow here but it's f f f f f freezing!

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Mouseface · 12/01/2013 14:16

Afternoon, tis me, Mouse

Sorry not to read back properly or for being here....

Welcome to the new Babes, Smells (I want to call you something else, would Teeny be okay? I doubt you smell at all! Grin) very and Space and hello again to LRD, Horse and Huey.

Here is my life from the last few years, in relation to drinking. It's a VERY long post and I hope that those of you who read it, will understand why I am posting it. It's not for sympathy, it's because I hope that some of you will find it helpful and will be able to relate to it, and if you want to, get to where I am today. So, here goes..................

The Past.

My background is one of self abuse from a very young age. Alcohol played a HUGE part in my life from the word go. My mother drank lots, my father too although he wasn't around long, he left when I was two and my sister newborn, due to a terrible condition he suffered from, where his cock would fall into other women.

My mother would go out and come home drunk, the baby sitter used to let me drink some of his lager and I loved feeling all 'grown up', knowing that I was allowed to stay up whilst my younger sister was in bed. Thinking about it now, makes me feel a bit sick actually.

Years later my mother remarried, (I was nine years old), and he's the most wonderful man I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. I adore him now but at the time, I struggled to accept him taking my mother away from me and my sister, I liked it being just us. Even though she'd had 'boyfriends' in the past.

I hated school, and as I moved through the years I had a few close friends but preferred to have male friends, as I always found girls too bitchy and snide. I hated the cliquey groups and back stabbing that went on. I'd often come home and sneak a small glass of alcohol from the drinks cabinet.

Fast forward a few more years. I always drank in work when I worked in bars and restaurants because you could then. It was allowed and of course, the norm. You could be bought a drink and not put your tip in the pot as such. The money was yours so I bought alcohol.

I used to drink vodka. I mean LOADS. I was the last to leave a party, the first to arrive with a drink or three already inside me. Men soon became a stronger focus in my life, drinking, drugs, sex, clubs, more drugs, I have or had such an 'addictive personality' apparently. Hmm

My life became a cycle of being cheated on, hit, abused, lied to, finished with, picked up and dropped again and again and each time, the booze became the sticking plaster, it got stronger and stronger, it was the bandage that held me together.

Of course my drinking got gradually worse, the extent to which I would drink worsened each time 'something' happened. I used drink for everything. Period pains, shitty relationships, crap day at work, promotions, weddings, funerals, loss of life, new lives. Every day I had a reason to drink. And slowly, DrinkO'Clock became earlier and earlier too. I couldn't wait to get that bottle open. The sooner my day was done, in terms of having not to drive or be anywhere, anything to anyone.

I could function perfectly well with half a litre of vodka inside me, soon 70cl over the course of the day if I felt that way out.

I met DD's father, it was a short lived relationship, we were friends first who ended up having sex in reality. I got pregnant to my absolute horror and surprise. He decided he wanted nothing to do with me or the baby which was fine with me so we went our separate ways.

Before then, when it all got too much, I'd pack and run. Run as fast as I could as far as I could. New job, flat, life. I had such a low opinion of myself but little did I know just how much my behaviour was affecting my family. My parents. Sad

I'd tried to kill myself once. I cleaned my flat from top to bottom, unplugged all appliances, paid all my debts off, locked all of the doors, windows, not turned up for work and unplugged the phone, turned my mobile off. Finished all unfinished business. It was a rather loud cry for help as it turns out.

I really struggled not drinking and it took me weeks of weaning down gradually with the support of my GP at that point because of just how much I was consuming each day. But I wanted DD more than anything in my life. I'd never felt love like it even though I'd not even met her, I wanted her so very much as I'd be told I'd never have children easily due to my Endometriosis it would be near impossible without fertility treatment and even then there were no guarantees.

Life settled right down, I gave up my flat, got a full-time job (luckily the company employing me knew I was pregnant and that I would be leaving so gave me a temp role) and moved back in with my parents with their full support and love. Life was wonderful. I felt safe and wanted again for the first time since being around 14 years old, by that time I was 23.

Not long after DD was born, I met the most abuse man I have ever known. He did so much damage to me, to the person I had become since having DD. I've posted about him before, I've been a part of the 'We Believe You' rape campaign because of the things that happened, never mind putting DD through all of that.

After I got out of the relationship, that's when I started to use alcohol again to hide the shame, the guilt. The abuse and the terror that I felt. I was fragile and broken.

The silly thing is, that I have a million excuses as to why I drank like that, both before and after having DD.

My abusive past, Nemo being born with all of his Complex Special Needs even though DD was perfect when born, the guilt, the tangled feelings and emotions in my head spinning around as to why things had happened to me, DD being bullied at school and me not being able to 'be there', my own pain, my past relationships with men, my mother, my non existent natural father, myself, this bloody house was a fuck up from the start, the builders screwing us over, my marriage was in tatters because I blamed myself for Nemo not being as we'd expected him to be, regardless of extra scans and tests.

Everything was my fault and the ONLY thing that took the edge off, or softened the blow, soothed my soul was drinking until I couldn't rememberer anything.

When Nemo was in Neonates after being born, and we were told he had a life threatening heart condition as well as his other disabilities, I thought I'd turn to alcohol again. I didn't. I have no idea why, I just didn't want to.

The Mouse of old would have dived right in and blocked it all out, denied it had happened. You see the thing is, we'd had to fight bloody hard to get the house we're in (the builder selling it went bump the day after we'd exchanged contracts and demanded money we didn't have in place yet or was going to withdraw the sale even though we'd chose a school etc for DD.....)

Other things too, we'd say "well, this is happening because our baby will be healthy, it's our trade off with the Big Man upstairs" and the like. We always had a reason to justify why bad or seemingly unfair things happened to us. And the same could be said for the way I abused myself by using alcohol to stop hurting. To stop feeling anything. To numb myself to the outside world.

We'd waited so long to try again after the triplets died. I wasn't ready to risk it, DH was scared too, we were careful and looked after ourselves before trying to conceive. It happened at the first attempt whilst on holiday in Menorca! TMI Grin

We'd treated ourself to a holiday, hoping that we'd conceive so it would be our last for a while. Little did we know just how long 'a while' would be but looking at the bigger picture, which I can now do, I'd trade a million holidays to keep Nemo in our lives. Smile

The first time I went back to the OldMouse, was after a shitty day with Nemo not keeping any feed down. His reflux was awful, he was fractious, crying the whole time in pain with his tummy, he wasn't sleeping and I was having to feed him by syringe every 1.5 - 2 hours.

I'd had enough so got twated. Once, twice, and then more often. Every day started to look like the last. Lots to drink, pass out and get up to Nemo when he needed me. Pissed Blush

I kept getting off my face and didn't give a shite. I was so scared of how angry I felt, how tired I was that I just didn't';t want to stop drinking until those feelings went away.

DH kind of went with it for a while, saw it as a blow out to the shitty hand we'd been dealt after hoping it wouldn't be the case and drank too but not to the extent that I did. Then one night I'd been sent to bed, yes, really, as I was so off my face. At the time Nemo was still in our bedroom (he stayed until he was 2.5!) and woke crying so I instinctively got up to him and went to get him when DH walked him taking him out of my arms.

I went fucking blue monkey nuts. I mean three shades of bat shit on his ass. I screamed at him to give me my son back. He told me to go to bed and took Nemo downstairs and refused to speak to me until I'd sobered up. Luckily, DD was out that night. Thank Jeff. I realised that I had come too close. Far too close to fucking up the most precious little boy in my life, our lives. I could have dropped him. Fallen with him in my arms, walked into anything and hit his head, I could have really hurt my own child. Sad

I decided that it had to stop. I talked to DH about it who just laughed in my face sand said things like 'you're not an alcoholic, you're just tired, stressed out, under pressure etc, you need to sleep and get some rest is all. It's not like you drink at 9am in the park is it' Hmm he didn't support me at all. I wanted to stop drinking the way I was. I didn't like who I was becoming.

I'd posted on another thread, and I was gently guided here by venus and the rest as they say is history. Grin

I started to post and I think the first words were 'Can I ask a serious question, how much is too much?' and the rest as they say is history.

I was met with huge support and welcomes but I didn't want to stop, I just wanted to stop drinking the way that I was. I wanted to cut down and knew that I could even though MIFLAW told me I'd never do it and that he's never met a successful alcoholic who'd gone from 90+ units a week to controlled drinking.

I thought he was so arrogant at first, who the hell was he or anyone else to tell me I had to STOP drinking? If I wanted to drink, I'd drink. I'm an adult FFS......

I put up a fight. I stopped posting for a while. I fucked up, got pissed. Posted drunk, lied to myself and the thread about how much I was drinking and acknowledged that some male poster who might be called MIFLAW, at that moment in my life, was right. Maybe!

I hit my face on the bathroom floor on holiday with DD's friend there and had to lie, about how it had happened, that was 2 years back. I lied about amounts I drank, when I drank, what I drank and then I started to read back over the first thread again. And finally, it all started to sink in. I mean really sink in.

I had to stop for good for that one day. Just that day. It nearly killed me to sit there watching DH drink his wine that night. But I was determined that I wasn't who I wanted to be when I drank so I had to take action. I had to chose to live my life, not just exist in a funky fugg of blurred emotions and softened edges. As hard as it was going to be, I had to get off the merry-go-round as I wasn't merry in the right sense of the word any more.

DH didn't want me to go to AA. He said I could stop alone but that I was over reacting anyway. I actually decided to go and speak with my GP in he end and he gave me some antidepressants and also something better for the pain in my back. He said he'd only help me with my back pain if I stopped binge drinking because of the affects the two would have on me and he was right. Of course. He monitored me closely, I had a LFT and it came back with reduced levels of Albumin and increased levels of AST/ALT which indicated alcohol abuse. My GP pulled no punches and told me to pack it in or else I would run the risk of liver disease and cirrhosis.

Taking note of other people's posts too. Really taking note and take a real interest. That was enough for me to stop doing what I was it was the top up from the night that DH had taken Nemo from me from me for my own good,

The Present.

Currently, I will have the odd glass of wine but it tends to be red as I know that white wine goes down far to easily for me. I drink it like water. So, that tends to be avoided. I like to have a pint with a packet of crisps with DH, DD and Nemo if we go for a weekend walk somewhere, just the one and that tends to lead to night in these days, years ago it was different, it would be two or more pints, DH would drive or we'd walk and he'd only have the one if at all. I'd always have to have that little bit more, that one last drink.

I'll have fizz or cava when we have date nights and maybe some red (125ml small wine glass that I bought!) with that too but I honestly cba most of the time. I hate getting pissed and feeling out of control. It scares me to think how much I used to love it. I hate not knowing or remembering what I'd done the night before too. I'm a control freak and not knowing what happened, when and why is just so alien to me now......

I hate being drunk and I hate others around me being drunk too now. My change in drinking has even lead DH to cut down and he never gets wasted with me now, only the odd night out or away with his mates which suits me just fine.

So now, it's what I fancy, but only a measured amount, for example, if I want a G&T, I'd get the ready made Gordon's in a tin so that it wasn't a home measure, we all know how much they are din't we ladies?

The Future.

One Day At A Time.

PS - thank you for reading if you got this far. Sorry for the typos, and I'm going out soon so not ignoring any replies.

Mouse xxxxxxx

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SobaSoma · 12/01/2013 14:20

Holly yes it's lovely to wake up and not shudder inwardly and simply revel in feeling normal MonsterCat seems to have really got his feet under the table :) Kot thanks for asking after DB. We've been told to get an urgent referral to secondary care on Monday - the GP has always tried to fob him off - and get him some decent care. Do you mind me asking how you got over your depression - was it a mixture of meds and therapy?

Lovely to hear from you JWN, thanks for keeping an eye on us. Hoping to stay off the sauce today, DD is in bed ill (has all the signs of the norovirus) and would hate to breathe fumes all over her.

SobaSoma · 12/01/2013 14:21

Mouse, am settling down with a cup of coffee to read your post. Thanks so much.