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The all new, sparkly,2013 Dating Thread - 35!

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watchoutforthatsnail · 06/01/2013 21:01

off you go.

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lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 16:38

Really Kirsty? I went for B

A seemed like a right faff. I just let the waiter get on with it.

I had also bought all the beer waiting back at mine so thought ah fuck it. (this was with Mr Clever the other night)

BillMasen · 09/01/2013 16:39

I suppose I'm a bit old school in that I just assume I'm paying for dinner, certainly the first date and maybe 2nd. It's just kind of me, and not even a date thing, if I ask a mate for a bite to eat, sometimes he pays, sometimes me. It all works out in the end.

juliette in that situation had you offered to contribute I'd have said no. If pushed then perhaps you left the tip, or said you pay next time.

lubey pay the 31 on your card and pocket the 20 Smile

As for intelligence, one of the most attractive things in a woman is inelligence. And feistiness. It's my "type", massively so. I just don't understand why someone would want to go out with a woman who wasn't both of those things. Don't you bloody well dare "dumb down" for anyone!

lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 16:45

Bill I did consider doing that but then it works out the same with him paying 20 and me 11 and the waiter was already doing option B by the time i arrived at that thought so... ah well.

Scrazy · 09/01/2013 16:51

Lubey, I would have said 'do you want to split it' and if he said you pay the rest then go for B.

Now is 'feisty' a good word? Would you call a man feisty? Will admit I saw it being mentioned on the feminist board about it being sexist to describe a woman as such. It kinda made me understand why I was uncomfortable with the word.

Movingforward123 · 09/01/2013 16:57

God just had a lovely conversation with a Pof guy ConfusedConfused

I loosely said we might meet today but ha other things to do! He called I didn't answer then messaged him right away saying I was doing xyz so couldn't make it ( although we hadn't actually made plans. Just said maybe) I then asked what is bbe doing Saturday to rearrange. He replied cool! Confused

Then text saying I was rude as I didnt text to say I couldn't make it! I explained I don't feel we had made plans but was sorry as I could see how it may have seemed rude!

He then went on to say i seem too busy for him and don't message him a lot! I told him he replies with one word answers. He also said as I am a mum I probably don have time for him.

He then suggested that he could see me when dd sleeps??? HmmHmmHmm

I replies saying of I knew him well then yes, but as I don't I feel that being a responsible parent it's not possible to invite complete strangers into my home! It is unsafe and not sane to do so! Wow crazzzzy people out there Confused

Movingforward123 · 09/01/2013 16:58

Sorry for all the typos. I'm on my phone Grin

antonym · 09/01/2013 17:03

Scrazy "feisty" seems to have the literal meaning "resembling a small, farting dog". Who could resist such a compliment?

lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 17:06

Scrazy I don't have an issue with the word. if it differentiates me from some of the women out there (like for example, my mum who is just simpering, submissive, quiet little girly wirly mouse wants to get her way by batting her eyelashes) then that's fine with me.

ike1 · 09/01/2013 17:11

Oh ffs Moving...its so tiring and tiresome! On the subject of places to eat on dates...I prefer small family run restaurants Italian/Asian/Vietnamese....or my fave Japanese...or specialist vegetarian restaurants. The food tends to be much nicer that chains, cheaper than posh 'named' restaurants and often intimate. Importanatly it is not so embarrassing when divvying up the bill...

ike1 · 09/01/2013 17:13

Infact I like to find quirky places to eat and will go alone....saddo that I have become...

JulietteMontague · 09/01/2013 17:18

Ok it seems the men say they wouldn't have done that, some women say they would have split it. I have never gone around expecting men to pay for me because they are men, I've always thought it polite to make sure no one feels awkward either way.

Bill so there is hope for me yet Grin.

Moving arse. Block

Lubey B. Less messy and you were also doing the drinks.

ike1 · 09/01/2013 17:20

Basically jules I would have MADE him eat street food (posh name for kebab lol) with his fingers from one of the stalls...

lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 17:24

Moving - definite arse!

Juliette.. phew... glad at least someone else would have gone for B

I wonder if in future I should make sure I have both cash and my card though so it can be split like for like with the same method of payment.

Or am I weird that it feels odd/wrong/strange paying by different methods for the same meal when splitting/contributing to a bill?

KirstyWirsty · 09/01/2013 17:26

lubey what do you do with your friends? I don't think it is strange at all to have some paying by card and some by cash

lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 17:27

Juliette I'd have been a bit taken aback by the way seeing as 1) he suggested it despite the snack thing. In fact I think in those circumstances I'd have brazenly not offered to pay but left a tip and announced the next drinks are on me before dragging him off elsewhere for drinks.

VoiceofUnreason · 09/01/2013 17:27

Non-dating related but need a vent. Some friends of mine have a son, 34, with two young twins. His wife is expecting another baby at the end of the month. Have just heard from friends that son collapsed and died at 4am this morning. He was fit as an ox, so my guess is some form of aneurism. I cannot think of anything more heartbreaking.

This is the second time I have known someone in their 30s with very young children dropping dead, the other guy was a very close friend. But this one about to be a father again in two weeks. Just devastating for them all.

Which reminds us, yet again, life can be short and life can be shit. Grab any bit of happiness while you can.

lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 17:29

Kirsty with organised meals with friends everyone tends to put cash in (with a bit extra for non drinkers) and one person takes all the cash and pays by their card.

KirstyWirsty · 09/01/2013 17:31

We always have a mix .. One of my friendsis like the queen .. Never has cash .. She sometimes pays for a couple of people with her card and takes the cash but the rest it just depends

lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 17:34

Or if it's just me and my best mate we don't tend to go anywhere with a bill at the end so she gives me cash for her half and I pay at the bar with card.

Bant · 09/01/2013 17:35

The way I think about it, now that I'm thinking about it, is: If I ask someone to go out for a meal, I expect to pay for the meal. I've got no problem with them asking to pay half, or for all of it if they want to make a point, but I expect to pay for it because I asked. I'll probably choose the place because I'm asking them to come to it. If they don't like the place we can choose somewhere else, but it's still my request, so implicitly I foot the bill.

For a second date, if they want to choose the place then they can foot half the bill or pay for drinks, whatever.

If they choose a cheap place to eat, that's a subtext that they either love it or that they don't feel comfortable eating expensive stuff, and usually unless they say ' my shout' then I'll go in for half.

If they choose somewhere really expensive, I'll expect them to go dutch or pay for all of it.

Mind you, my first actual online date, where the woman showed, and I experienced beer goggles - she paid for the meal while I went out for a smoke. I really hadn't intended her to, I thought we were getting coffee and saying goodnight. Then she drove me home. I wasn't sure if she expected to be invited in or not. Hmm. If the woman pays for the meal on a first date, does that mean she expects me to put out?

Oh as for feisty it just means a woman (or small man) who sticks up for themselves and isn't easily cowed/simpering. That's not the dictionary definition, but it's the one I go for. Feminism/Schmeminism. I like feisty. Speaking of which I'm supposed to have dinner tomorrow night with Miss Feisty, who I think possibly won't show as she was so horrified by the thought of online dating. Feck it I'll take a book.

Bant · 09/01/2013 17:38

Voice - that's horrible. Sorry mate - everyone must be devastated.

watchoutforthatsnail · 09/01/2013 17:39

id go with c, because i would have taken cash ;)

i dont like being paid for, makes me feel awkward as hell. i will always offer, always.

bant, have you gotten over not knowing with the date? I know its just the not knowing thats the pain, because it doesnt make sense. Its why velvet and some of us ( me included) get so wound up post good first date, and plan of second, when they just vanish, you are left thinking ' wtf' because it doesnt make sense at all. The advice then, and so, the advice you will get it, is, get over it. it wasnt even a date, it happens. easy advice to give out, logical even. bit more difficult when its you involved.

Velvet - good idea i think, hope you are ok... dont stay away long.

Snape- hope date is going well

yoga- hows the job

bit of a stressful day, nearly had to call the vet out to put my lovely boy to sleep. He couldnt stand up, and i thought his hips had given way. Luckily he now appears to be ok....... but its a massive warning of whats to come. The vet says thats what will happen.... bloody horrible:(

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lubeybooby · 09/01/2013 17:40

Bant I have paid the total for a meal a time or two before and definitely not been expecting him to put out... I did it just because I wanted to go to a specific place and knew he hadn't a hope in hell of even paying for the tip. (he was unemployed)

JulietteMontague · 09/01/2013 17:40

Lubby well technically I would just have put the bill on my card and taken the £20. I just can't be bothered with all the bill paying stuff. Not weird to pay by different methods at all.

I thought I would offer so he wouldn't think I was assuming although I was and I could do the tip or offer a drink as a gesture. So that taught me something Grin

ike1 · 09/01/2013 17:41

Ok Bant n Bill Im up for a posh meal ....get yer wallets out...waddya say girls.. dinners on the 3Bs