Men who don't watch porn

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I do not believe all men watch porn.

However I wonder why they dont with it now being the "norm"?

Was there never any interest in the first place? Has it lost its shine? Is it a for feminist reasons?

Or is it more of a case of resisting temptation? As in they do want to watch but guilt and/or morals stop them? Fear of being caught?

We live in a time when we are constantly fed the message all men watch porn so nobody ever discusses those that don't watch it.

Nope sorry andula you don't get absolved of being nasty because you put (joke) at the end of your nastiness. The nastiest bullying is always followed by "just kidding" and a sneering smile...

I haven't read the whole thread but I've got mixed feelings about porn. I do accept that a lot of it is misogynistic though and don't watch for that reason.

I think it's also normal to feel threatened when your partner is using porn. But I do think most people watch in a voyeuristic way and it has more to do with enjoying watching other people having sex rather than wishing they themselves could have sex with the person/people in the film. So I don't see it as cheating.

One thing that has bothered me is the thought that if I was with someone who honestly didn't have some voyeuristic tendencies then they would possibly have a much lower sex drive than me. Aren't we all programmed to like the look of people having sex (because we like doing it ourselves) - even though a lot of porn these days is horrible? I'm quite open to the fact I may be wrong - these thoughts are based on my own individual experiences.

Ah, so double standards agogo.

Or maybe you're just not funny, I dunno.

And again "the gentle flowers on here" implying what? That people who object to porn are what? Prudes? Extra-sensitive? What? Yep, really doing well there for the pro-porn side in making clear why porn is so good...

oh Offred, lighten up, will you? Nasty? to say people are frustrated? oh dear you really are a gentle flower, aren't you?

Although, I do find "jokes" about women fingering themselves, esp when made to someone who has spoken about how bad she felt after working in the industry far cruder than the word fuck. Mumsnetters swear. None of us are delicate little flowers, but, again, you have just shown how little respect you have for others.

I've never felt threatened by a partner who used porn, I don't see it as cheating and I'm a bit that you'd see someone who wasn't voyeuristic as a person who had a low sex drive - why would that be? Do you not think that is a bit worrying?

careful now
down with this sort of thing

You're predictable andula "oh lighten up, you can't take a joke, wah wah" except you know you are trying to be nasty just absolve yourself of responsibility for it.

watch it perception, Offred thinks that reading mills & boon is akin to forcing yourself onto strangers in the street

And yes it is nasty because it is calculated to humiliate and also to dismiss... How is that not nasty?

No andula I never said that, it just sits you to keep repeating things I didn't say... Again, doing really well in making your case for why porn is good...

*suits.

Blame, what's wrong with fingering?

What's right with porn? Don't be glib, making a sex joke when someone is disclosing abuse is nasty. Come on, you have been on this thread for pages now and you still haven't actually made a proper argument in favour of it or answered any of the questions adequately...

What offred said, now you are just trolling and/or being deliberately obtuse.

There is nothing wrong with masturbation, but making a joke like that to someone who has just talked about how she was exploited and abusing is just scummy.

Offred, I'm not trying to convince you to like it, I don't care if you do or not, I'm just interested in other people's views so I'm keeping it going.

And it wasn't a sex joke, I was saying that women read porn and finger themselves, this is a fact. If you can't even accept that as being normal then you've got serious problems.

But you said it was a joke?

And you aren't actually interested in other peoples opinions, you've made that perfectly clear.

Blame, how can you accuse me of trolling then make a statement like that? Are you serious?

It isn't about not accepting that as normal it is about you making a sex joke out of it at an inappropriate time. I don't believe you are interested in anything other than dismissing people who disagree with you. What you are saying is you have nothing relevant to offer effectively and I'm not saying anything you say will convince me, I'm asking you to defend your position because you are using it to assume superiority and to attack and dismiss people.

Blame, I am, just not yours.

(And you seem to be confusing normal with acceptable too not in that context but in the context of porn generally)

Offred, I don't assume superiority, you're forcing it upon me

Yes, I am serious. You have backtracked, avoided questions, stirred and dismissed. You are only interested in the opinion of people who agree with you and have tried to derail the thread.

You say somethings a joke, then backtrack and say its a fact. You have repeatedly tried to make jokes at the expense of others and have been thoroughly unpleasant. I don't know if you always post this way, tbh, I don't really care, but I (as I said - as in not actually saying you were a troll) believe you are either trolling or being purposefully obtuse.

I get the feeling that Andula just likes provoking a reaction.

Funny how none of the pro-porners acknowledged the men on here who said they don't use porn or called them liars.
You might be forgiven for thinking that women being all defensive and sneery have issues surrounding their partner's porn use and don't like the "all men use porn" line being rubbished because it makes them uncomfortable and they have to face the fact that lots of men don't use porn, for lots of reasons, the very least of which is probably" because their partner would object".

Men ( with a healthy interest in sex) who choose not to use porn, it cant possibly be true, the world must be ending!

Is it such a radical idea?