Men who don't watch porn

[FBworry]

I do not believe all men watch porn.

However I wonder why they dont with it now being the "norm"?

Was there never any interest in the first place? Has it lost its shine? Is it a for feminist reasons?

Or is it more of a case of resisting temptation? As in they do want to watch but guilt and/or morals stop them? Fear of being caught?

We live in a time when we are constantly fed the message all men watch porn so nobody ever discusses those that don't watch it.

I have no idea if the particular person you mention is happy. Twitter is a PR tool.

People are under the impression she's being exploited and abused though, without any evidence of that being the case, just because her job is in porn.

Sigh

Do you agree that porn is a potentially exploitative industry? Well, if you are thinking of asking the question, perhaps you aren't dismissing this out of hand.

But Do you think that asking someone, as you suggested, if they are exploited on a public forum they use for PR is a sound evidence gathering strategy?

Good night,

Do you agree that the fashion industry is a potentially exploitative industry?

Cos some parts are, doesn't mean it all is.

We have no knowledge of how this woman is feeling other than what she says but im not the one saying she's being abused and exploited.

It seems this thread is dying down now, it's been a pleasure debating.

As i'm last man standing i now declare Mumsnet to be renamed Shoesmenet.

*Rocky theme plays as i shadow box.

Round my end there's a saying that goes -

Stop being so rude to people.

"I don't care if your husband's lying to you tbh, and if you read my posts you'll see I've always said I think 'most' men watch porn and 'some' of those men have to lie about it.

Yes I have a partner and he likes porn, we occasionally watch it together. He agrees that most men watch it."

You clearly do care if they are lying as you keep banging on about it.

Yep, as I guessed a woman determined to make us believe all men watch porn has indeed got a dp who does it himself. No surprises there.

Anyway, thank you for the debate everyone. It's been great, if I don't cross swords with any of you again then i hope everyone has a great Christmas. If you 'like' Mumsnet on Facebook then you might just see my smiling little face one day.

Take care everyone xx

What do you mean we might see your face?

If I comment on Mumsnet Facebook page is all. Little treat for you all.

Have a good Christmas FBworry x

Little treat as in seeing my face, nothing sinister lol.

Well im not on the fanpage so Ill miss out on the treat.

Merry Christmas and be GOOD!

Wandering back late to the thread having been out for a lovely social evening with a couple of fellow veteran porn industry workers, I just thought I would offer a couple of helpful tips on ways to be sure (or at least strongly increase the likelihood) that the porn you choose to watch does not feature trafficking victims, other unconsenting parties, or minors.

1. Pay for it. Just as cheap clothing/food/electronic gadgetry is more likely to have been made by exploiting people, free porn from unknown sources is more likely to have been made by people unconcerned about the welfare of performers.

2. Seek out a big (ish) name brand with a reputation to uphold, particularly one that operates mainly within the UK. A recognisable findable company is not going to use unwilling people or those incapable of consenting, because if they are visible, they are open to charges of rape, aiding and abetting abuse, exploitation, etc.

I'd also like to draw your attention to this intersting study, which is at least based on slightly sounder research than the sort of made-up bollocks Gail Dines tends to favour.

The study you quoted is meaningless. It actually states that its findings may be inaccurate!

Yes this 'study' is meaningless and akin to the tobacco industry doing research on the long-term health benefits of smoking, amongst a sample of 35 smokers in their twenties who are still fit and well.

The advice about ethical purchase is also lost on the people who have no interest in porn (which is what this thread was meant to be about) and the quality of posts from the porn losers on this thread suggests they don't give a flying fuck whether the stuff they watch is ethically produced, as long as they can get their rocks off for free.

Not all men watch porn, most do, and have watched porn at some point in their lives. As long as it doesnt become a habit, I see it as pretty much a non issue.

The porn industry can be exploitative against both men and women but I think this is the exception rather than the rule. The film industry in general is exploitative if you want to delve deeper, as are industries like fashion etc.

Theres a problem with debating an issue like pornography because people have their own agenda's. Ive listed a couple of links in this post which suggest porn isnt altogether a bad thing.

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201112/porn-why-does-my-man-watch-is-he-sex-addict

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/all-men-watch-porn-and-it-is-not-bad-for-them-1833949.html

www.cosmopolitan.co.uk/love-sex/why-do-men-watch-porn-93836

SGB-did you actually read the article you linked to?

None of those things even if they were true and not just your opinion overcome the inherent sexism portrayed and promoted by most mainstream porn, the consent issues created by the exchange of money or the encouraged objectification of women.

Zippey - those are just opinions.

I often wonder why those who are so "not bothered" about porn seem so invested in changing the minds about those people that are

It is very strange AnyFucker, as is the insistence that all men must watch porn and are therefore lying if they say they don't, as if men are not capable of thought or empathy.

It is a bit desperate IMO to insist that someone's husband must be lying. I guess it is safer and easier to believe that than to accept that your partner has a problem.

Is a bit sad really.

It shows a lack of respect for men, imo. Reducing them and their sexual desires to the level of animals.

The 'control' thing mentioned earlier in the thread (I am too lazy to go back and quote) as in, some people are better at 'controlling' themselves also assumes that all men want to watch porn and some are just stopping themselves from doing it.

That is a pretty big assumption and to make a comparison it is like saying I am controlling the urge to smoke. I really am not, I don't smoke, and have no interest in it whatsoever. No will power necessary. Same for porn.

Zippey

Those articles are ridiculous. "All women like spa treatments, chocolate and shopping which is really just like porn so its ok"

What crap. Not all women like that stuff ( I hate spa treatments for a start) and its not comparable to porn. Its laughable.

Wheres the bit about encouraging you to stand up for yourself if you dont like porn? The message is shut up and put up.