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Ginny pigs prove the options are of limited quality - Dating thread 28

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lubeybooby · 11/11/2012 18:45

New one - chit chat all dating stuff here.

Off you go! :o

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MadameOvary · 14/11/2012 01:39

Just catching up and Pix OMFG. He sounds like a hybrid of all my worst experiences. I have slept with a virgin and he was lovely and it went well, but this guy clearly has some serious, serious issues! Either he has a abusive background somewhere or is on the Spectrum - not to be disrespectful to those who are - but it's a combination of being enabled by his family (they were concerned about him at that age? WTAF?) and someone somewhere never addressing the problem when he was a child.
Apologies for amateur psych-bollocks, but having been in therapy, having a bro with ADD and, well, being on MN for years, there's usually something going on in those areas.

Bant I think that you could probably have an honest discussion with her along the lines of "Please write back to me I think I love you as we should probably talk about this, if you're up for doing so?"
Lame but it's late sorry.

WFF - glad you're staying with us, posts do get overlooked or just noted without the need for further comment.

Hello to all the newbies as a relative newbie myself it's a fab bunch Smile
Dammit now I have to go to bed.

KirstyWirsty · 14/11/2012 07:37

Hello skye nice to see you on here :)

StrictlyComeDancingDiva · 14/11/2012 07:44

A lot of night owl posting last night!

Skye welcome Smile

WFF hope your date goes well today Smile

hatesponge · 14/11/2012 07:54

Watch, any more news on house yet? Hope job is still going well too.

Snape, how are you - is DS back at school yet?

Bant fingers crossed for some news from surreygirl today :)

Hi to everyone else and good luck to those on dates!

WarmFuzzyFun · 14/11/2012 08:04

Morning all!

Am feeling strangely calm this morning

Bant I had planned to spoon you too, your loss mate. I am a forgiving (and giving) woman, so let's not close that door completelySmile

And where is Voice?

Okay I am off to throw my clothes around the bedroom and then wear the first thing I tried on!

I'll be back later to update.

Scattylatte · 14/11/2012 08:08

Good luck from me too.

Had to block 3 people on pof last night. All wanted long term, all started with seemingly normal conversation. Then all descended into 'I'm feeling horny' 'what animals do you like' Confused and 'what do you do when you meet people from here'.
Up thread someone said its like being groomed and that is exactly how it feels.

Twats

Are you firmly on the sofa sponge?

skyebluesapphire · 14/11/2012 08:08

This thread is great, trying to get up to speed with you all, but one thing stood out and that was Pix.... Oh dear,, I'm afraid I would have run for the hills long before you did lol.

I met a 36yo Virgin once, it was hopeless. I was quite shy at the time and he didnt have a clue what to do but quite liked it once he got the hang of it lol. Sadly he suffered from PE......

It didnt last long if you'll pardon the pun Grin

Hi Kirsty!

hatesponge · 14/11/2012 08:16

Scatty that's awful. But being groomed...you're right. What annoys/upsets me is these lokes would probably never sream of having a convo like that if they were chatting up a wpman in a pub or a bar, but somehow on a dating site its ok?!

Yes, pretty much on the sofa til the new year at least I think :) unless there are any unexpected developments...

hatesponge · 14/11/2012 08:19

Apologies for typos what comes of posting on a train while trying to read Metro at same time :)

lubeybooby · 14/11/2012 08:23

Morning all!

WFF :o I do that every time! Glad you are feeling calm. When are you meeting?

Pix Shock just omg. How did you put up with it that long? Shock bless you, so sweet. I managed one night with a virgin.... someone who had been 'after' me for a date for a loooong time. Date was ok, but we got back to mine and he was the most scared and shaky I've ever seen a man, followed by the worst case of droop ever. I was gentle and understanding but nope, it wasn't happening. I eventually gave up and went to sleep, and have never seen him again (after a very awkward breakfast) I didn't have THAT much sympathy for him, because he has been all talk til it got to being naked with an actual woman. I may have persevered more if he hadn't led me to believe all was 'normal' with his sexual history. But it turned out he was 36 and had never gone further than a peck on the cheek!

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FlorentinePogen · 14/11/2012 08:32

Pix, did your virginal Frisbee cyclist Beano reader answer to the name of Frank Spencer by any chance ? Grin

OhWesternWind · 14/11/2012 08:50

Bant - you asking?? Wink

VoiceofUnreason · 14/11/2012 10:02

WFF I'm here, didn't get in until late so wasn't logging in. At the moment am still recovering from the whole "virgin/no teeth/what's food do you like" general malarkey!

OhWesternWind · 14/11/2012 10:08

So, Voice, what did you have for breakfast?

lulubellaboozle · 14/11/2012 10:09

Pix sorry, couldn't help but laugh reading your post and speechless really, just speechless!!

Sky everyone is different in terms of what you share and how much you chat or email before meeting. I've tried lots of emailing and chatting and then meeting and also very brief contact beforehand and gone straight to date and I don't think there is a magic formula it's just what you feel comfortable with.

but, with Mr Ex Army who I have been seeing for 8 weeks now (get me), we emailed a lot, then exchanged loads hundreds of texts and then chatted on the phone for hours and hours, my first ever 3.5 hour phone call the second time we spoke. We built our first date up big time, despite saying to each other 'we shouldn't be doing this' and when I saw him, it was WOW and I had the most amazing time and it continues .......despite my insecurities and deep seated mistrust due to my cheating bastard STBXH

So good luck I hope it all goes well and WFF good luck on your date too, report back please!

VoiceofUnreason · 14/11/2012 10:19

Western Grin actually I almost never eat breakfast. The only time I do is if I'm staying in a hotel - if I've paid for it, am damn well gonna have it!

Yogagirl17 · 14/11/2012 10:25

OMG, I can't believe what happens when I go to sleep early! Where do I start?

Joyless - I just have to tell you how much I LOVE the fact that you used "let the sausage see the roll" in a counselling excersize - you're my hero!
Kirsty - Date with the auditor sounds pretty great. I don't even hate the text speak as long as it's only used for texting! I have a date with an Engineer on Friday too. Wink
Moving - You keep saying you want to give this relationship a chance but you're clearly not happy. To be honest, from everything you've said I don't see it getting any better either. Maybe you're afraid to move on (ha ha, no pun intended) because you've convinced yourself that the only other man who could satisfy you is your ex and you don't want to go there again? Would you feel differently about this relationship if you believed there are no doubt many, many men out there with you would be sexually compatible?
pix - Oh wow. He would have lost me at "I won't eat out". But seriously, the man has some real issues. Even without the sex thing, the fact that at 48 he basically can't look after himself means there's bigger stuff going on there. It's good you got out when you did - don't feel guilty, he needs a whole team fulll of help, not just a good shag from a sensitive soul.
Bantam - What are you going to do about Surrey girl? You liked her too much to just let her disappear. I hope she gets in touch but if not, will you contact her again even if just to find out what's going on in her mind? I think you should.
WFF - enjoy your date adn let us know how it goes!

So, on the food thing, I realise it seems to be a theme with me!!! Mr Coffee and I talked about...well, coffee (with a small c), with the Frenchman it was baked good, the Geek it was chicken soup, NYer - pizza....? Confused Maybe I need to instigate a discussion about Coffee instead!!! Grin

NicholasTeakozy · 14/11/2012 11:11

Blimey, you lot move fast! Just caught up and in reply to OWW, yes, I have had negative reactions about responding to a serious question with a joke. It's tiring, apparently. Hmm

pix, you must be the most patient woman in the world! :o

Hope you hear from SurreyGirl Bantam, even if it's a no ta.

Yes Yoga, talk about Coffee. :o Wink

bantamrooster · 14/11/2012 12:21

I think I'll give SurreyGirl until tonight to get back to me in some way. Amazing how the days drag slowly by when you're waiting for a text after a date, isn't it?

Then tomorrow I'll send her another mail to say hi, and just be honest and say I like her, the distance is a bugger but I'll try to make it work if she's open to that. Or if she's not could she let me know, so I can go back to meeting normal boring people instead of hoping to hear from her.

Or something like that. I know she's got a lot going on in her life at the moment, and she'd said earlier that she was going to give up on meeting someone online because of the stress of raising her DC and working full time and an arsehole STBXH who never had the kids, but she's really kind of very nice indeed, so I'd be willing to do most of the legwork.

I dunno. She seemed to return the spark thing when we met, she said meeting again would be 'nice' (there's that word again) and then couldn't talk on monday night because the neighbours were round. And nothing since then. It's only two days. Maybe I should shut up.

lubeybooby · 14/11/2012 12:30

I think that's all you can do bantam, and bless you, I really hope she replies. I think she may have got herself all down about it and decided for you that it's too much, too far, not fair etc - without really talking to you about it. It's been seen on here before when someone likes the person but decides for them it won't work due to X reason... and we all pipe up and say hang on, don't decide for him/her, give em a chance! So maybe that's what it is.

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pixwix · 14/11/2012 12:34

Ah bantam - it's horrible waiting to hear isn't it? is she very far from you?

Lubes - tis bewildered mum here Wink

bantamrooster · 14/11/2012 12:40

pix - she's about a two hour drive. I used to do that drive every few days for work, so it's not impossible, but it's far enough away we can't just pop round for coffee. Or Coffee.

lubeybooby · 14/11/2012 12:42

Pixwix hello love! Thought I knew the name for some reason :) I left a message for you on a thread ages ago where you popped in and said hi but I think you missed it. Did you know your birth story is in MN classics somewhere here?

And knowing you I can completely understand now how you managed so long with that chap, you are so deeply lovely, that's you all over to be so kind and patient! He was definitely a completely lost cause though, so don't feel guilty! And just remember the damn cheek of his as well with certain comments.

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JulietteMontague · 14/11/2012 12:43

Bantam sounds like a plan.

pix the things we do in hope!

moving if he is like this now it can only get worse on the sex front. He is a lump of lard if he really meant the Doctor comment, if he did it to put you in your place then he is revealing true colours. Either way he is not good enough for you.

lubeybooby · 14/11/2012 12:45

Daters, pixwix actually saved my life once, at a party when I was choking following deciding to drink wine directly from the box ::blush

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