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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Blowing Away The Cobwebs, Brushing Up The Leaves, Whilst Travelling On The Battle Bus, To Our Own Sobrieties.

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Mouseface · 29/10/2012 10:25

Hello I'm Mouse

Welcome to the Brave Babes Battle Bus, aka Gerald. It's a lovely place for drinkers, non-drinkers, wobblers and thinkers...... we're a really mixed bunch who all have one thing in common, alcohol.

Whether that be past or present, it can always be our future due to the nature of the beast.

Everyone can join this thread, the support is unconditional. And it is here for anyone who wants it, now or in a little while, there's always a spare seat or three!

Why not take a look at the journeys so far at the link below, it'll take you back through the last two (plus) years, and also I've posted a link to the very first thread....... the reason that we are all on the Bus in the first place Smile

PREVIOUS THREAD

FIRST EVER THREAD

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EasyToEatTiger · 25/11/2012 19:56

Just found this thread by searching for it. Where is it? Gah. I got drunk last week and felt bloody awful. I thought on my way home that, I've had a good run of it, and perhaps it's time to stop. So far this is only my 4th evening without wine. I hope to get to a week, and see how it feels. I was feeling as though my life was reeling out of control, although lots of good things have been happening. Two days with my highly dysfunctional family have put me off being with myself, so at least for now, it is a choice of either dying the long way, or giving it a go at living for a bit. Every now and again I am gaining little insights into my drinking, and each time I wonder a little more if it is really an important aspect of my life. Even 2 weeks ago, I didn't think I'd really be considering stopping drinking for at least most of the time. I have been forcing myself to drink to reach an invisible and unreachable thing. How stupid is that?

Mouseface · 25/11/2012 20:11

Ma - I was wondering about Silver too, will text her Smile xx

Now then. Weight loss and skin tone. A couple of weeks ago, I was in Morrison's (other supermarkets are available) at around 10.30 am. A lady in her, say, mid 40's? was at the checkout in front of me buying five bottles of cheap white wine, and a sandwich. The lot came to less than £20. I was instantly flung back to Not That Long Ago...............

My initial thought was 'why doesn't she get 6 and get 25% off because of their special offer' and then I stood and looked at her face.

She was slightly over-weight, but what stood out to me more was that her face was puffy, her nose was deep purple veined and red, her cheeks flushed...... her eyes puffy and her skin looked so uneven. I felt a real pang of sympathy for her. It was a shock to me actually, how looking at her made me feel.

I used to be her. As others have said, I'd go into the same shop and get wine and the shopkeeper would have it in the bag before I'd gotten my cash out, knowing what I wanted. Blush

Sunny - when I first stopped, my DH was all 'you don;t have a drinking problem, you're not an alcoholic, you can control your drink etc...' now my logic for that was because he was concerned about his own drinking and losing his drinking buddy meant he was the one with the issues.

Maybe that's how your DH feels? It's hard to stop. It's hard to cut down. It's hard to take control but do you know what is harder?

Telling your friends and family that you have liver disease, or that you have another alcohol related illness and that maybe, just maybe, it's not been caught in time.

Not cheery, not nice but it is the truth of the matter. The lady in Morrison's knew the young man on the checkout, he packed her bag, he said 'hope you have a nice day, see you soon' which of course he could say to all of his customers but there was just something about his tone.

Since I've kicked the Wine Witch in the well, I've lost more than a stone, my eyes are clear, I feel able to deal with what Nemo and the world has to throw at me, all of the recent fighting for his Statement, his operation, all of the stress with DD and her shit time at school because of bullying..... all of the shit that has been flung my way would have been drowned out in the past.

You can lose weight. You can sleep at night. You can look bloody great and people WILL notice. You can give yourself a second chance and if you fall off the Bus, we'll all be there to scoop you up. Again and again if needs be.

You can have a fresh face when you wake, you can go to a bar and have something that tastes nice, lovely in fact, without alcohol in it. YOU CAN DO IT.

Maybe not tonight, maybe not tomorrow and of course we have the dreaded Christmas hanging over our heads............... we'll deal with that as and when before we all wibble! Grin

Keep posting. Tell me to fuck off with my 'you can' bollocks...... Do what you have to, to get through the day/night. I've grown a Rhino skin in the last few years here.....

I've also taken up far too much of this thread today so I'm going to shut up for the night but will be back in the week.

Nemo is asleep for now. He's sooooo unsettled and I know I'm in for a long night but DH has said to me that I am amazing.

That's not meant to be a twatish comment or invite for you all to join in but to hear it from him, for DH to say that he thinks that I'm amazing because of what I do for our son really, really matters to me. Smile

Night Brave Babes xx

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babyjane1 · 25/11/2012 21:36

purple leucan alias and kotinka and as always the
Incredible mouse I can't thank you enough for your amazing words of wisdom, after all your sweet sweet comments today i had a bit of a lightbulb moment!!! Was struggling with hangover sweats and that awful sense of doom hangover feeling so had to drag dd1 to the shops in the freezing dark night (as it always is in Scotland) to get wine and it felt seedy and wrong. So I have decided tomorrow is the day, this bus has given me something i haven't had for a long time HOPE and if I make it it's because of you SUPER BABES x x x

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LeucanTheMopsis · 25/11/2012 22:49

Oh good news, Baby! Lightbulb moments are wonderful - it's a shame we can't rustle them up on demand. New day, new week, new determination. If you feel wobbly (in fact, even if you don't) come and read through some of the older threads. I started that a couple of days ago and it's fantastic for two reasons, no three:

one - it distracts you in the moment, and hopefully any craving will lessen whilst you're reading

two - the support and encouragement from people here is wonderful to read and keeps reinforcing in your brain that this CAN be done, and people ARE doing it, and YOU can do it too

three - loooooads of practical tips on coping, advice on what to expect, and most importantly some outstanding wisdom on WHY you're bloody doing it in the first place, all worked out by people who have been where you are, which keeps them from doing it again (bar the odd slip...).

I'm only a week ahead of you, so I'll be keeping an eye out for you!

babyjane1 · 25/11/2012 23:21

leucan you have given me so much encouragement and you too lovely wolf i think this is my chance, never felt so safe and it feels good x x x

babyjane1 · 25/11/2012 23:24

easy stay close 4 days is amazing as is know

babyjane1 · 25/11/2012 23:44

Sorry I phone ran out of power, let's just stick together, tomorrow is the beginning of my new life, and for the first time in years i don't feel alone, I feel hopeful, Asta manyana mon amegos (until tomorrow my friends) x x x x

PurpleWolfe · 26/11/2012 06:37

"You have brains in your head.
You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose." - Dr Seuss (Brilliant man!)

If only it were quite that simple but....he does have a point! If you really put your mind to something, you CAN do it!

Huge bucket loads of luck today Baby. IMHO, when coming off alcohol, it might be helpful to have some or all of these, in your 'Toolbox':

  • Chocolates/sweets/biscuits to cope with the sugar reduction and cut down the craving - wine has loads of sugar in it. Don't worry about calories in the first few days.

  • An alternative beverage - it's funny because quite a few AA devotees are against this but it was useful for me. I chose carbonated water with lemon, lime and ice and also diet Coke in moderation. You will need to re-hydrate with something.

  • Vitamin B compound and maybe a good multi vitamin to replace what wine has stripped out.

  • Maybe a herbal tablet to help you sleep.

  • Something really nice for dinner. Something special to look forward to, to treat yourself with.

  • An enormous helping of 'Be Nice To Yourself'!!

Anyway, for what it's worth, those things helped me. I'm sure the Babes will come up with other suggestions.

Good luck Lovely and, most importantly, keep posting!!

Off to start the day. Toodle pip! x

PurpleWolfe · 26/11/2012 06:45

* Something really nice for dinner. Something special to look forward to, to treat yourself with. Treat = something food (dinner/pudding) related - not alcohol!! x

greeneyed · 26/11/2012 08:53

Morning brave babes! Have not caught up with thread just popping on to say I WILL NOT DRINK TODAY. Will catch up later have a good day all x

helpyourself · 26/11/2012 08:59

Morning all BBs!
What are your plans Babyjane? I recommend no alcohol
In the house, some exercise, or at least fresh air today, good supper waiting and no reason to nip to the shops later. So get in fags if you smoke, milk for the morning, packed lunch supplies etc. now!
Then keep in touch with the thtead today and remember HALT.

Love to all!

greeneyed · 26/11/2012 09:06

Morning brave babes! Have not caught up with thread just popping on to say I WILL NOT DRINK TODAY. Will catch up later have a good day all x

Sunnywithachanceofshowers · 26/11/2012 09:31

Morning everyone

I'm not going to drink today - thankfully! Off to uni in a bit, then need to come back and do the homework I've been putting off. I also need to cancel my plans for Saturday, as drinking would have been involved.

Speak later x

babyjane1 · 26/11/2012 09:31

Morning lovely babes, well today is the day I will not drink and I am feeling very confident, I think I will buy myself a good book, any of you guys read anything fabulous lately? Thanks to you all for your amazing support, I am going for a very long walk with the dog to clear my head x x x x

kikilondon · 26/11/2012 09:31

Hi could I join you on you journey? been drinking way too much for too many years...definitely have the addictive gene in my family and just want to get under control. can I ask if any of you have been able to reduce your drinking to moderate controlled levels? I'm going to try and not drink today - can you give me any advice to cope with 5-6pm window where I ALWAYS want wine thanks kiki

babyjane1 · 26/11/2012 10:18

kiki hi and welcome aboard, today is first day that I will not have wine, can't even remember when I last went without so you will not
Be doing it alone, if you read all the other comments and tips, you will be well equipped to beat the "wine witch". I am hoping that eventually
I will be able to have a glass of wine but right now I just need to give myself a good detox, stay close and we can help each other x x x

helpyourself · 26/11/2012 10:31

kiki is there wine in the house? If not, ensure that you've no call to nip out! So as with my advice to babyjane make sure the dogs walked, there's money on the gas- whatever reason you might usually have for going out 'urgently' Hmm Ask a friend to call you at 5.30, or watch something on eBay that finishes at 6, or make a cake that comes out at 6.05.

babyjane1 · 26/11/2012 11:07

help great advice, thank you x x x

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SobaSoma · 26/11/2012 12:16

Welcome Kiki. Yes there are babes who now manage to drink moderately or very little (Faire and Mouse to name but two) and others like myself who still aren't sure whether to abstain completely. Good advice from Help and all the best for later (and you too Baby).

Thanks for your great post earlier Mouse and so pleased that DH values you so much. How could he not? Terrible headache this morning and realised that it's because I didn't have my usual caffeine fix until 11am. Got to be addicted to something I suppose....

PurpleWolfe · 26/11/2012 13:43

How are you doing Baby? Hope some of my ramblings were of use?

Hey, Green, so nice to 'see' you again. Take care. Smile

babyjane1 · 26/11/2012 14:32

purple I very much appreciate all your ideas, I'm having a very bad day, the enormity of how much I have let everything go, my house is a guddle, my skin is crepey and I look like shit, not too mention using my entire overdraft to wine. On a positive note the fact that
I can acknowledge all this must mean Im ready for change and you guys have been inspiration, hearing you all talk about weight loss and skin improving really really hit home!! Tonight I am have a lovely steak dinner then I'm picking my dd up from choir, dh usually goes cos I'm the wine, so I will be driving, just trying to put obstacles in my way that stop me drinking, I'm actually looking forward to cleansing my body and mind cos I feel dirty, sweaty fat and old, so ready. Again it's finding this bus that's changed everything and I actually want to make you guys proud!!! X x x

babyjane1 · 26/11/2012 14:39

Also have b100 vitamin b complex in my hoard is this what I should be taking? Anyone? X x