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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Blowing Away The Cobwebs, Brushing Up The Leaves, Whilst Travelling On The Battle Bus, To Our Own Sobrieties.

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Mouseface · 29/10/2012 10:25

Hello I'm Mouse

Welcome to the Brave Babes Battle Bus, aka Gerald. It's a lovely place for drinkers, non-drinkers, wobblers and thinkers...... we're a really mixed bunch who all have one thing in common, alcohol.

Whether that be past or present, it can always be our future due to the nature of the beast.

Everyone can join this thread, the support is unconditional. And it is here for anyone who wants it, now or in a little while, there's always a spare seat or three!

Why not take a look at the journeys so far at the link below, it'll take you back through the last two (plus) years, and also I've posted a link to the very first thread....... the reason that we are all on the Bus in the first place Smile

PREVIOUS THREAD

FIRST EVER THREAD

OP posts:
HorsesDogsNails · 20/11/2012 19:15

I don't post here often cos I'm a bit of a fraud(!) but I just wanted to add my good wishes for Nemo. Take care of you Mouse {hug}.

Btw, I'm a bit of a fraud becasue I personally don't have issues with alcohol but I am here supporting, cheer-leading for you all. I get pleasure from seeing the difference when a poster has been on the bus for a while, when they 'get it' and their life starts to improve. I wish I had more to offer but my mostly silent support is about it Smile!

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HorsesDogsNails · 20/11/2012 19:41

Hi Kotinka, sort of! An old family friend's life fell apart quite spectacularly due to his alcoholism and he went to AA as part of his recovery, I went to stay with them (they are in the US and I am in the UK) and he took me to his AA meeting..... This was in 1989 and I was only 19, friend is my Dad's age, but I have never forgotten the meeting and how low a dependance can drag you has really stuck with me.

I also have a friend who IMO drinks too much. Often I read something on this thread that I see in her but she is totally in denial.

Personally, I drink - I am your classic weekend drinker! All of my weeks alcohol consumption is done over Thursday, Friday and Saturday night and that is cool with me - I probably actually drink more than is recommended in units but it stays as it is and I know my limits!

Sorry for the waffle Smile!!

greeneyed · 20/11/2012 20:16

Horses you are the holy grail :) I mean that's what we all would like to be able to do!

greeneyed · 20/11/2012 20:19

Well my new PJs are rubbish and will have to go back but I've still made it onto the bus all tucked up with a camomile tea :) Are we nearly there yet?

HorsesDogsNails · 20/11/2012 20:26

Green I don't mean to sound smug, that's why I don't post much but I check this thread everyday. It just kind of is what it is with me! My Dad is prone to excess as is my brother but my Mum and my SIL are both good moderating influences!!

One real benefit I genuinely get from the bus is understanding how easy it is to form habits that are ultimately unhealthy...... I definitely drink more mindfully than I used to.

aliasjoey · 20/11/2012 20:29

I'm in charge of songs! and opal fruits!

you can keep your crummy jobs driving the bus and punching tickets Grin

to start, something gentle to send nemo sweetly off to sleep. what about "Mockingbird" ? followed by "Swing low, sweet chariot" ?

PurpleWolfe · 20/11/2012 20:30

Joey, no purple ones for me, thanks, I can't stand them! x

aliasjoey · 20/11/2012 20:31

and "Kumbaya" of course

aliasjoey · 20/11/2012 20:52

Tomorrows songlist:

Walking on sunshine
Beautiful day
What a wonderful world
I believe I can fly
The worlds greatest
You've got a friend
Heal the world

songsheets will be distributed. anyone not joining in will not get an opal fruit. or a murray mint

lookingforhope · 20/11/2012 20:56

Hi all - well, have done day 1 (I have lots of day 1's but don't usually call them that. Found work difficult today, found it so hard to concentrate, still in my shame stage after ballsing up another weekend. This is when I usually skip the gym and sneak off for a quick lunchtime glass of wine to face down my demons. Today was a half way house - no gym, but just walked round the shops and bought a book on mood mapping which I thought I'd read tonight.

Thanks for all your messages and greetings. I think the reason I skipped that lunchtime sneaky wine today was because of you. I read your posts and took advice from venus and ate something. It was awful and left half of it (I tend to fast when I'm really stressed) but then felt better tonight and ate when I got in. I like the HALT thing, it struck a chord, thank you. I am often angry (or anxious) and lonely, and usually tired and knowing they are common triggers makes so much sense to me.

Am baking with dd now - classic guilt trip, trying to make up for zoning out at the weekend (I am there bodily but who knows where my head is at?) Last night I asked her a question about a TV show we were watching and she said, 'they explained that last night' mummy, and I had to pretend I'd forgotten seeing it when actually I couldn't remember. Oh the shame of those moments!

Have read way back in the thread and admire you all so much, some amazing journeys there. Not sure yet if I am going to go for total abstinence of just wine with meals (I go to a lot of stuff with work, am OK usually, it's just home drinking that gets me. That has definitely got to go)

I'd better get back to my biscuits - nearly ready to decorate!

thanks ladies, love to you all on the bus, sending thoughts to you all, especially Mouse and Nemo today xxx Thanks

dementedma · 20/11/2012 21:00

Hmpfs at joey being in charge of songs and sweets.
Checks map to see if we are all on the right road - I think we are.
Okay everyone, PJs on while I set about converting the seats into reclining beds.
Still a long way to go....

greeneyed · 20/11/2012 21:07

Well done lookingfor

aliasjoey · 20/11/2012 21:59

lookingfor well done on today

Somethinggottagive · 20/11/2012 22:24

Well done looking for! I know those moments re not remembering bits of Tv shows. Horrible.

So I have done it!! Been out tonight for dinner and did. Not. Drink!! I had already rearrange plans so I would drive, and on the suggestion of somewhere here I didn't even have the one glass of wine I was allowed. Two spicy tomato juices to start - and it was not only easy but a very very enjoyable evening. There will be far greater challenges as socialising goes...but this, for me tonight, is a first (aside from being pregnant). Whatever happens, I have this under my belt!

As looking for has said - I would not have done that had it not been for you all and this thread. It isn't just the 'good me bad me' debate in m head now, but I have other suggestions/views/advice in my head now - from the only people who I have been completely honest with. How amazing!

Thinking if you, mouse, as I go to bed tonight. All the very best for tomorrow.

Somethinggottagive · 20/11/2012 22:30

Ps can I also add With a Little Help from My Friends to the playlist please?

Fairenuff · 20/11/2012 22:31

Haha you lot make me laugh, talking about opal fruits. They haven't been called that for about 20 years!! Grin When I forget and call them that, my kids look at me like this Hmm.

Anyway, pass the starbursts will ya Grin

Mouse sending you calm and brave vibes and sending Nemo healing wishes x

GoldenAutumn · 20/11/2012 23:15

Aw lovely Soma you are too kind! I'm all Blush and Smile Smile now! Grin Well done you on resisting the devil on your shoulder without the antabuse - I have, as always, been reading and following your trials and tribulations xx

Hello Ma I'm pretty good at the mo, thanks for asking. Smile
Had a rocky few weeks but I've been having weekly CBT sessions for the last five weeks I was referred by GP 2 years ago Shock and finally got my course... of a whole 6 sessions! Grin Although I didn't have very high hopes, tbh, particularly due to the brevity of the course, I've actually found it very useful.

My drinking had crept back up again but over the past few weeks I've been drinking more mindfully again. Still too much, especially at the weekends, but more moderately and more mindfully. I've also had at least two (3 last week) AFDs per week for the last few weeks, and I really notice the difference that makes. Upping my dose of ADs helped too, I expect, and also gave me a bit of a boost and some perspective to resist the wine witch for my AFDs.

I had a bit of a bizarre experience today; a friend has recently done a practitioner course in matrix reimprinting (nope - I hadn't heard of it either) and invited me to be a body for her to practise her new skills on. Once I got over my initial disappointment that it wasn't going to involve Keanu Reeves in a long black coat, imprinting himself upon me at some length, I thought I'd give it a go anyway. Most of it was a sort of guided meditation where you go back to an early memory of something that triggered a negative feeling about yourself, and you sort of rewrite the memory, communicating with that earlier version of yourself. It sounds utterly a bit bonkers but actually it was very gentle and very moving to be kind to this child version of myself. I'm usually shit at meditation and visualisation but this felt different, probably because it was guided.

It came up early on in the CBT that I "have some intensely negative core beliefs which are far too deep to address in the limited sessions we have" (to which I couldn't resist saying "well what's the point of this then?" Grin) and the CBT therapist feels that I need to learn to be compassionate towards myself. The fact that I find that concept so cheesy and awkward was a bit of a sign that he was onto the right track, so what with that and the matrix reimprinting, I feel like I've been making some strides in that direction. Lots of realisations about why I drink, including that one of the few ways that I can manage to be nice to myself is by 'indulging' myself by drinking. It's not the most constructive way of nurturing myself though, is it.

Whew, what an emotional splurge. Bet you're glad you asked now ma, eh? Grin

greeneyed · 21/11/2012 07:45

Goldenautumn - really interesting I'm going to look into that

dementedma · 21/11/2012 08:51

Grin@ golden and raises 3 cheers for something
Right you lot, lots and lots and lots of vibes for the mouse family today!
Busy in work, so can someone keep a weather eye on the thread during the day?

greeneyed · 21/11/2012 09:05

Mouse I'm stretching out my hand into the ether brave babe

SobaSoma · 21/11/2012 09:14

Faire do you remember the ad "Opal fruits, made to make your mouth water!" Just heard Stairway to Heaven on R2 on the way into work (that's what I was listening to when I was 16) - couldn't help comparing it to the likes of One Direction et al and despairing. It's great to be a curmudgeon :)

Golden your post makes for very interesting reading and this gave me a bit of a light-bulb moment: one of the few ways that I can manage to be nice to myself is by 'indulging' myself by drinking. Let's try to find other ways to be nice to ourselves eh? Anyway you sound really good and positive and lots of love xx Hope that's happened to me too, I've asked DD something which I asked her the night before and forgot because I was probably in mid blackout :( Really can't afford to go back to those ways.

Does anyone know what time Nemo's procedure is? Thinking of you and your dear ones Mouse.

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obrigada · 21/11/2012 09:51

Sending lots and lots of positive thoughts and vibes to the Mouse family today:)

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