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Hat wars and soup-er dates, let the sausage see the roll... The Online Dating Thread reaches 25!

999 replies

Yogagirl17 · 23/10/2012 16:17

Erm...hope nobody minds?

OP posts:
lubeybooby · 26/10/2012 18:15

Snape my lovely. It's really so much better that you don't.

Possible outcomes for you are:

  1. you get no reply - infuriating
  2. you get some more cold and cruel bullshit - devastating
  3. you get apologetic fluff that you will instantly fall for - pain prolonging, because icy cold is sure to follow soon after.

are any of those good? Nope.

He gets yet more validation and ego stroking. Even with you pointing out what a wanker he is, his 'yep she needs me' meter will be topped up.

DoingItForMyself · 26/10/2012 18:16

still got half of it left, I reckon we could do a pretty good job on him MmeO!

I agree with those saying don't respond, not even with a Fuck You, narcissists (& that is surely what he is) feed off any attention and it will be more torturous for him to hear absolutely nothing from you than anger, love or reason.

I'm so sorry for the pain you're feeling, I imagine it is as if someone has died (that's how I felt when I had to accept that my DH never existed, but that some narcissistic arsehole who looked like him had been living with me for years!) It is a kind of grief, but it will get better and luckily for you, PM has helped by showing his true colours so quickly so that you can see him for the knob that he is rather than continuing under the illusion that he's who you hoped he was.

Sending you love
xxx

watchoutforthatsnail · 26/10/2012 18:28

dont respond - as its like lubey says, there is no good outcome.

Shouting and getting cross at him, arguing at him isnt going to change anything.

hes still taken advantage of you. he wont see it as anything to do with him, hes blaming you, telling you he told you, and that if you can sort it, he will be your friend still. Im sorry, but hes a shit.

You cant argue and win aganist a shit, they will never be able to see it from the other persons side.

Sorry - shout, scream, curl into a ball and cry till there are no more tears, but do not reply. he doesnt care, if he did he wouldnt have sent a message like that. You cant make him care by replying.

watchoutforthatsnail · 26/10/2012 18:38

i know it feels like utter betrayal. you want him to hurt like you hurt, you are angry hes done this.

just the more you reply, you are just feeding the flames. This isnt a situation that can be sorted. Realistically, how can you be ' friends' after this? you cant, its always going to be there. You will always be angry at him ( rightly so)

im so sorry.

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 18:46

I love you all dearly, but I sent it. Not expecting a response and to be honest, after today don't want to care if I get one. I am NOT letting him call me 'emotionally self harming' - that's a funny way of seeing love, isn't it? Hmm. when fuck knows i have tried. I tried SO hard. i was brave and generous and so very full of hope and love.

Sending an email was my closure.

I've just posted a stunning picture of DD on my PM-free Facebook. I have wine. I am looking forwards to hideously expensive supermarket pizza (a fiver!) intending to smoke 20 Marlboro light, then giving up. Hmm Watching Derren Brown tonight and embracing the genuine love and affection of my wonderful sparky DCs and my glorious MN family... I appreciate every single one of you that has taken the time to post, especially the de lurkers and the PM's (ha!) The phone calls and the shoe-fund. You have been so supportive, insanely flattering about my daft little drawings, been quite lovely and have helped me through. Thank you.

When you want something so very much, sometimes you only listen to yourself. You think you are wise, but are clouded by hope. I don't want to diss PM (now renamed 'voldemort') but someone up thread had asked about relationship history...

He has been more or less celibate for ten years. still in love ( although he denies it passionately) with his uni-ex-girlfriend. They lived together after he turned her into a lesbian they split up. Although I think she is smashing, she is an over-bearing influence on his life. He had a 'blip' five years ago, a short term relationship and another blip after we had met, which lasted three months, which I loathed. He likes his space. So do I.

I was wildly promiscuous as a younger woman - I don't regret any of that. My dad left when I was five and not quite knowing how to relate to any men whatsoever (no male role models) I always equated sex with potential love. I wanted love so much! I married very shortly after my mother died when I was 22. Then I met the father of my DCs, who was also married (I know...) he fucked around on me, gave me herpes (waves at bantam!) and left me when DS2 (now 13!) was 9 months old. I then had a very nice period of ONSing, including a chap who can only be described as Scotland's answer to johnny depp. Had a bit of a fling with someone I really liked who then rejected me and I ricocheted into the arms of my best-male-friend. That lasted 6 years. We split up 4 weeks before I met voldemort.

To appease my growing fan base (...) I was a teenage carer for my gear aunt with Alzheimer's, so didn't get to university. My mother didn't have a mother, my granny died when she was 6 months old mum had me at 42 and didn't really show affection, so I swamp my glorious DCs with 'I love you's'. :-) I come from a rough estate in south east London. (I come from da ghetto!) I started work at the lowest grade possible in an unspecified government department at the age of 19 and was accepted onto the fast stream development scheme in 2008, which hopefully isn't as daft as it sounds, as it tries to identify future civil servants.

I am as resilient as fuck. Nothing will break me, least of all Voldemort.

TimeForMeAndDD · 26/10/2012 18:54

Thanks X

lubeybooby · 26/10/2012 18:55
snapespeare · 26/10/2012 18:56

Sorry, hugest and most self absorbent post OF ALL TIME.

Short- version.... What I am trying to say is this will make me stronger and thank you.

watchoutforthatsnail · 26/10/2012 18:56

applauds

TessoftheAngels · 26/10/2012 19:01

De-lurking to say you are so amazing snape, I second the applauds from watch

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:03

As you were.

MadameOvary · 26/10/2012 19:14

Yes it will make you stronger.
A year from now you will be laughing about this. I bet you feel a little lighter already hmmm?

TimeForMeAndDD · 26/10/2012 19:14

You already are strong Snape, you just don't realise how strong. In the long term, this will a greater loss for him than it will for you, you can be sure of it.

StrictlyComeDancingDiva · 26/10/2012 19:18

De-lurking again to add Snape, your drawings are anything but daft, they are truly beautiful and designed from the heart.

Although only a lurker, the love felt on this thread is truly awesome! There is so much support here, you can't fail to be moved by it [hsmile]

More applause and hand-holding here, you deserve so much better.

More Thanks and Wine

WhatDoesTheDogSay · 26/10/2012 19:19

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snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:22

I damn well know that time (I have missed you!)

madameO I actually feel at my absolute best. Sending the email was gloriously cathartic. Having him off of my fb makes me want to post badly executed home videos of drippingly sarcastic ukulele accompanied cover versions of 'man I feel like a woman' & CEE lo greens 'fuck you' (but I shall resist because while I can sing the arse off of anything, I shall attempt to avoid 'bitter')

Tomorrow, as Scarlett O'Hara says, is another day*

  • tomorrow is another day and I serve the right to feel lousy again. But now, 'I see you driiiiiive round town with a guy I loved (past tense) and I'm like 'fuck you'
bantamrooster · 26/10/2012 19:33

snape, you rock.

I'm currently on the train on the way to my date with the Nurse. My next post will either be a big grin or a disappointed sigh.

Wish me luck.

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:33

I just deleted his number from my phone.

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:35

bantam you go girl! .... No, wait.....

I wish you Grin

lubeybooby · 26/10/2012 19:35

WOOP! go snape! :o

MadameOvary · 26/10/2012 19:40

You deleted his number? Bloody hell I'm impressed Grin

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:40

Next, my slightly obsessive email collection....

TimeForMeAndDD · 26/10/2012 19:40

Smile I've missed you too. And I am so looking forward to watching you grow, change direction now you don't have your love for PM holding you back. It might not feel like it now but this is the beginning of an exciting time for you, new beginnings and all that. You are free of the unhealthy limits that your 'friendship' with PM put on you. You WILL meet a man who has the capacity to love as much as you do.

Well done on deleting his number. That's a great start. Now block him on FB so you can't see him at all, nor him you!

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:44

Oh. Do I need to block him too....? Doesn't him blocking me do that?!

snapespeare · 26/10/2012 19:45

blocked