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Sofas and Slankets V Irregular choice shoes and Snogging - Dating Thread 23

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watchoutforthatsnail · 28/09/2012 10:14

:)

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snapespeare · 01/10/2012 21:05

My head is stripey. I'm not entirely sure about this...

PM: I bet it looks amazing, I don't think I've ever seen you with your hair down. Show it off!
Me: I'm saving it for the lesbians. ;-)

No notebook today, hair trauma. something planned for tomorrow though... I have 13 pages to go.

MirandaWest · 01/10/2012 21:12

I like your stripes head :)

I have too many things to do and so am doing none of them....Hmm

MirandaWest · 01/10/2012 21:13

Should have been stripey head

fayster · 01/10/2012 21:16

Hello all.

Western, do whatever feels right at the time. Please know that I am very Envy.

Snape, eat cheese.

Watch, we're still waiting to hear what he gave you. And whether or not you gave him the push.

snapespeare · 01/10/2012 21:23

watch. Multiple orgasm? Scratchy red nylon underwear? Peep-hole bra? Cushion? ENGAGEMENT RING?!?!?!

MirandaWest · 01/10/2012 21:27

We need to know Grin

hatesponge · 01/10/2012 21:33

Engagement ring would be funny (though not for poor Watch!)

I'm betting on nasty nylon undergarments.

Or the mouse he's finally caught in his bedroom, to keep as a pet? Grin

The suspense is at least distracting me from my various woes...

Ps - Fab hair Snape! V Envy

ChaoticismyLife · 01/10/2012 21:52

Love the hair snape

Yogagirl17 · 01/10/2012 21:52

Hi. Still feeling sorry for myself. Shit day. Shit XH saying shit things to me all day then looks totally surprised when I tell him he's not welcome to spend time in my home. Nevermind. Sorry other people having a shitty day too. Snape hope you sort things out with DS - I dread to think what DD will be like when she becomes an actual teenager (instead of just thinking she's one).
Western sleep with him! In all seriousness, if the chemistry is good and if it feels right then do it. And enjoy it. And don't feel guilty about it. Don't let some outdated sense of morality spoil things for you. Trust your instincts - you'll know what's right.
Watch well????

hatesponge · 01/10/2012 22:18

Still waiting for Watch's update!

Yoga sorry about your crappy day. I find with the Evil Ex the ONLY way I can deal with him is literally not to engage at all. All our communication is by text. No conversation, I never see him face to face. That way he knows nothing about my life, and I don't get drawn into arguments with him.

PFWB text me this morning, haven't replied to his last couple of texts, not deliberate, just other stuff going on. So today he sends me one saying 'Hello...are you ignoring me?' to which I replied that I wasn't, asked how he was. And no reply! Wish I HAD bloody ignored him now Hmm

Yogagirl17 · 01/10/2012 22:53

Thanks sponge still trying to figure out how to do that.

hatesponge · 01/10/2012 23:25

Yoga the Evil Ex and I split up 4 years ago, I've only been in the current non-engaged state for a little over 2 years, so it took me a good while - and an awful lot of crap from him - to get there.

Final straw was when (despite us long being over, and him being in a new relationship) he whacked another bloke over the head at a party simply for speaking to me. Which pretty much put paid to any further attempt on my part to be friendly...

MadameOvary · 02/10/2012 07:44

Yoga if you want to call me for a vent please do, I'm quite well-practiced in dealing with these fuckers Smile

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/10/2012 08:32

dum dum dum..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................

:)

Actually lovely presents, proving that he does indeed know me quite well. The card however was the best, i dont know where he got it, but its an illustration from my favourite part of my favourite book. ( and also fav film) Im going to have to get it framed, because its lovely.
He also got me a massive zebra print dressing gown... :) which i love. AND a book by derren brown, that im really going to enjoy. No nylon. And actually thoughtful things that he knew i would love. And of course lots and lots of orgasms.

he also spentr ages sorting out my phone backing up/ pics/ upgragde for me, while i laid on his lap.

he is nice. MadameO - there isnt anything sinister about him, i know the signs, im literally his first girlfriend, so, hes mooning after me in the style teenagers do really. Its just that seems a little out of place sometimes, because im not 18. But there isnt any malice or manilpiulation there.

I do like spending time with him, its not under duress, its just i know this isnt a long term thing because he sometimes annoys the shit out of me because we are very different people.

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Yogagirl17 · 02/10/2012 09:28

Ooh Watch lovely presents. I wonder if that's going to make it harder to end things...? sounds like you had a fab birthday though. Smile

Sponge & MadameO thanks for support and advice -really, it means a lot. He is such a fucking prick. He introduces DCs to OW and then tells me it was an accident. He tells me OD is just a way for peadophiles to get access to our children. (NOT that I discuss these things with him - he found out ages ago before i realised he'd hacked into my email account!) He tells me it's my own fault I"m having financial problems because instead of paying a lawyer I should have just trusted him to do the right thing by me! Or sometimes it's my friends' fault or my lawyer's fault. (Never his fault for fucking some skank). This week it was all about a big decision we needed to make for DD. He told me how much we needed to work "together" & that if I wouldn't discuss it with him I clearly didn't care about her. Then when I arranged a meeting with him he cancelled it and decided I had no say in the matter but continued to send me emails telling me I was the one being confrontational, angry etc...he's just a big bully who does what he likes.

But I actually got some very good advice yesterday (from Mr60 who I know I shouldn't be talking to but can't help myself Blush). He's helped me realised that I have to accept i have absolutely no control over XH's behaviour - like you say sponge, the only answer is to disengage. Still have to communicate - and even see him occasionally because he sees the DCs regularly. But I do have control over what goes on under my own roof. XH has gotten used to 'popping in' after work to visit with the kids. This is the family home and technically he still owns half. But I had it put into our separation agreement that he no longer has any 'rights of occupancy' which means he can not be here without my permission. So I finally told him last night he can come here only to pick up or drop off DCs but when he wants to visit with them he has to do it somewhere else. The look on his face was priceless and almost worth all of yesterday's aggravation.

Sponge - everything ok with you? MadameO how's things with your new man?

hatesponge · 02/10/2012 09:38

Yoga the Evil Ex still owns part (not half - in his dreams) of this house but I never let him come in - when he comes to collect the boys he waits outside in the car, doesn't even knock (cos he knows I won't let him in) and phones the boys to say he's there. When he drops them off he just waits to check they're inside then goes. Hence until we did mediation earlier this year I'd not so much as seen him for 2 years. It seems odd I know to keep this sort of distance from your DC's father but speaking from my own experience it is the best way :)

No real change here, but hoping tomorrow will bring some good news in more ways than one.

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/10/2012 09:39

yoga - you are both still at the hurt and furious stage, its hard. But disengaging is the best, dont get drawn into any conversation about things other than your children. then you dont get stupid arguments. For a peroid of time i had to have all communication via email. If he started via that i just ignored it. Or if it was a point i just told him to deal with it via the solicitor.
You will wear yourself out otherwise.
At some point it will all calm down, he cant keep it up forever....

Snape - like the hair :)

sponge - have you heard from the boy or was it just a one off?

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MadameOvary · 02/10/2012 09:40

Yoga - attagirl! Grin He sounds like yer classic emotional abuser. If you ever want to talk, drop me a PM.
Watch - very happy to be proved wrong Smile

Science Boy is, so far, lovely. Always replies to texts, not too fast, not too slow, seems sweetly keen. Date set for Thursday which he hopes he can make (has set thing he does and hopes to change) but if he doesn't I won't take it personally.

I don't know if it's a co-incidence but since I started taking a Starflower Oil and Evening Primrose Oil Supplement a few days ago I feel quite supercharged! The first night I took them I had an awesome, vivid and rather filthy dream about Alan Rickman Blush and mood is generally better and energy levels higher.

Not an advert honest! But in case anyone has low mood/PMS maybe try it?

snapespeare · 02/10/2012 09:52

I am quite willing to partake in herbal remedies if the pay-off is a raunchy Alan rickman dream

watch glad pressies were nice. when are you going to dump him? Hmm Wink

yoga how infuriating. really, i do feel for you, amazing how him sticking his cock in some skank is totally by the by and everything is now your fault. have a (hug-type-thing) and do come on here to swear a lot about the twat. twat.

sponge hello! hope youir news tomorrow is the best news. :)

thank you for hair compliments. is weird, i feel like a woman. Grin men people are gawping at me on my commute Shock I dont want the green dress anymore for the lesbian ball, i want something black and fitted with sheer arms that costs less than a tenner and is on ebay because i put my underwear on this morning and looked in the mirror and i looked 'alright'.

nice emails from the prof in America, sent a photo of him and his colleague/friend standing in front of a town sigh 'population 11'. :) he makes me smile.

Yogagirl17 · 02/10/2012 10:03

I once had a very dirty dream about Lawrence Luellen Bowen. In my defence I was heavily pregnant and hormones were doing strange things to me. Hmm

Science Boy sounds good. Snape, those lesbians aren't going to know what to do with themselves! Grin

Sponge - doesn't sound weird at all the EvilEx waits in the car. I wish I could get XH to that - kids are certainly old enough. Last night he had to drop off some of their stuff. I tried to stand in the doorway and just take it from him but he literally pushed his way past me. Of course he then had stood awkwardly in the hall when he realised he wasn't welcome and eventually went and sat outside on the steps to have a quick chat with DD.

MadameOvary · 02/10/2012 10:07

Snape Get yerself a pair of sheer sleeves! Tight, Black, all the way up your arm. I wear silk and cashmere ones I made from and old jumper. It's great as you get to flash a bit of skin and avoid sweaty pits Very sexy.
Science Boy admired mine and said they look "very Audrey Hepburn" which hadn't occured to me, I thought they looked quite grungy Smile

ChaoticismyLife · 02/10/2012 10:22

I'll keep those supplements in mind. Even in my dreams I never get any these days, I always wake up just before anything happens Angry

Dictionary definition of Yoga's ex - twat, cunt, wanker, twunt, wankbadger, arse...add yours here Grin

Yoga keep putting those boundaries in place and don't react to his idiocy. He'll get fed up when he realises he isn't getting the reaction he wants.

I like the sound of the sheer sleeves. I've always thought a little left to the imagination is a good thing and sheer sleeves fits that perfectly.

watch nice presents. Now what are you going to do?

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/10/2012 10:27

im not going to do anything right now. We have a paid for thing in a few weeks, not cancelling that.

Its difficult. Its not him, and its not me, hes not awful, some thing he does just bug the shit out of me. I dont know if its because hes a bit crap at some things or if im just very set in my ways and to used to being on my own to put up with someone else and their quirks, you know, remembering i once dumped a fwb for bringing an overnight bag....

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Yogagirl17 · 02/10/2012 10:28

LOL Chaotic Grin

DoingItForMyself · 02/10/2012 10:37

Oooh MmeO I'm about to start taking EPO supplements to try and boost my sad old bosoms (new POF man is definitely a boob man!) so glad to hear they have other benefits too.

I am reading all the posts but can't manage to squeeze in a reply to any of them before the thread has moved on - they do move fast these OD threads don't they. Just shows what exciting lives we single folk lead!