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Advice about X getting nasty (sorry its long)

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Festivefly · 21/12/2003 14:58

I need some advice about what to do. Three weeks ago i decided i couldn't have contact with my x anymore. Seeing him was tearing me apart. The final straw was when he rang constantly throughout the night to tell me how much he missed me. At first i'd put the phone down and tell him to ring his girlfriend not me. In the end i fell for it and started to listen. He told me what a legend i was, remembered wonderful things we did together. It opened up a healing wound. He said please babe come and see me, you can stay the night, we'll put our kids to bed, and then have a drink and a chat. I told him that i couldn't handle seeing him as a friend, if i got on with him i wouldn't want to leave, and it woild take all my strength to hold myself back from kissing him. To that he said it doesn't matter just come.He told me that he hardly saw his girlfriend it had only been a month it was nothing serious. I couldn't resist it, my heart lifted, and i thought thank god this nightmare is over. I went on the train with my heart beating for joy. I thought finally the man i love has seen sense and gone back to his old self.
I got to his flat there were candles everywhere a hairdryer plugged in, flowers, a make up bag, her post, her art work.......... I felt like vomiting, i screamed what the hell are you trying to do to me, i didn't want to see this. He said what were you expecting to happen, i asked you to come here so you could see where our boys would be sleeping. I started to shake shouted a bit and left. It was the final straw i got on the train home and had a panic attack. Then i went numb. All i could imagine was them together doing what we used to do. A week later i went on anti-depressants. They didn't agree with me so i stopped. He'd done it finally i was going to have my nervous break down.
My family found out about the state of me and took over. I didn't know what i was doing anymore, i'd stopped feeling. They rang him up and said if you want to see the kids you will have to meet them at our house. They changed my telephone no. The immense relief that i gained really brought me back to life. I haven't spoken to him for three weeks. I haven't been called a victim, a whore,lazy.......He would constantly tell me that i loved that he had gone because i could act like a martr and attention seek. I do nothing with my life except watch the kids and i was pathetic for going nowhere, while he is doing a degree.
Anyway he didn't get in touch with my parents so my gorgeous calm kind father rang up and said are you going to see the kids when do you want to, we need to know when to be in because its christmas. He told my dad to go f**k himself. He will not be dictated to by anyone. He will not be seeing them until i stop being stupid and ring him. He said there no way on this earth you are going to call the shots. Nobody has told him when or for how long he can see them. Thats up to him i would never stop him. I just don't want to see him as i nearly lost my mind. He has said that he will ring back, we've all ruined it, hes getting a solicitor, and things are going to change. Im scared, what can he achieve???????
Thankyou to anyone who has managed to read to the end of this without falling asleep sorry its so long, and sorry for repeating some stuff if you know it already. Thanks

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turnupthebass · 09/01/2004 12:32

every time I read something he has said or done it just makes me more and more sure that what you are doing is the right thing to do.
Yes you fell in love with him - rightly or wrongly - but now, with all the nasty nasty things he is saying and doing, it is so clear that he doesn't deserve any of your love - or your tears.
He will be nasty, probably especially as solicitors are now involved and he can't manipulate you any more (lots of experience of that behaviour!).
Just try your best to think good riddance ff. you and your children don't want or deserve someone horrible.

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 12:33

God i love my children, they are so loving. I never really talk about them and get on with it (if that makes sense). I usually call them the rat and the toad. The poor little things have just seen me ran up to my chair, one on each knee, kissed me all over my face and said i have a flower face. Who needs men, when i can teach my boys(3 and 4) that women are fantastic (not emotional wrecks like today)

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turnupthebass · 09/01/2004 12:35
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lilibet · 09/01/2004 12:36

oh dear ff, hope you're ok. First a few home truths - YOU ARE NOT IN LOVE WITH THIS MAN! You are in love with the memory of the man who held your hand while you were giving birth, who you had fantastic hols with and who made love to you. That man does not exist anymore. There may be someone walking around who looks like him but he is not the same person who you were in love with - don't confuse the two!! The imposter is a total bastard who isn't worth you wasting your tears on. It is really as if you dp has died and what you need now is a period of mourning about him as he was and about your relationship. If he had died it would be ok to cry in fromt of your boys so treat it like that. Tell them that you are upset that you and their dad aren't together anymore but the three of you are going to have a fantastic life now together witout him (avoid adding 'the bastard' here!)

Don't phone him again, he means nothing to you, he just looks like someone who once did. Next time you want to phone him, come on here first and ask permission and if anyones says ok then I will shoot them!!

fio2 · 09/01/2004 12:39

lilbet and tutb good advice It is right, my friend was talking to me yesterday about her ex husband and she said its as if your mind plays tricks on you and you just remember the good bits - you forget about all the crap, but when you think about it things were not ALL rosy.

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 12:47

Thanks turn up the bass, sometimes i just can't help thinking that its me, and i wind up men the wrong way. So a male point of view is fantastic. I'm just gutted today, i do miss him, and i feel totally out of control that i can't win him round like i used to. Thats what i spent a lot of time doing, calming him down, telling him that there was a family here for him that we loved him, and i didn't need a soapstone sculpture launched at my head
He did say to me if he treated me that badly why am i so upset, and i really can't answer that question. I suppose because when we we're getting on we laughed so much (i have wet my pants on a couple of occasions )
I spent a lot of time helping him, got him into uni etc..... when i met him he had no self esteem, he wrote poems that were fantastic! I really bloody spent a lot of time telling him to do something with them. So thats why he went to chester uni, i wanted to live there. After a couple of months he met student girl.
I feel totally shot in the back.
I really really find it hard to believe that there are relationships out there that work, i doubt i'll ever get one. I know that sounds self pitying, i don't mean it like that i just can't see men falling for me.

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Festivefly · 09/01/2004 12:54

Lillibet i know he has died, thats how i actually feel today, i feel bad for my friend that passed away, but the feeling is the same. I can't let him go can i, i really want to but its too painful. If he goes in my heart i feel that this all was a waste of time. Mad i know, i never ever thought i was this women, i would have told myself to get over it. I get scared how out of my hands the hurt is.
Fio, totally i think when they leave, they turn on the good memory switch, just to f@ck you over some more

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lilibet · 09/01/2004 12:56

How can this have been a waste of time when you have your fantastic boys?
It is going to take time to get over him ff, dont rush it, you will have down days but they will get less.

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 13:00

Thats what i don't get how can i have fantastic boys and not love there father for that. It is a strange concept.
But yes lillebet the days already get less and less, i just miss him soooo much.

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lilibet · 09/01/2004 13:02

but the him that you miss isn't this bastard who's shagging a student!

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 13:05

No no no, they haven't slept with each other

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lilibet · 09/01/2004 13:06

ah, I see, I was mistaken in the man, he does have morals
(rofl!!!!)

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 14:03

OMG, his girlfriend has some how got my no. and rang, must now check as it is obviously not x directory. Half an hour on the phone, i listened at first and then called her a patronising bitch, what the hell is happening to my manners

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lilibet · 09/01/2004 14:04

his girlfriend rang, the cheeky bitch!!!!!

thought you had changed your number?

turnupthebass · 09/01/2004 14:04

cheeky cow! Half an hour??? proper conversation then?

why on earth did she ring you?

marthamoo · 09/01/2004 14:06

FF, hon, don't know how I missed this thread. You have been through the wringer - what a b@st@rd (not helpful I know but I'd like to smack his stupid face). You are doing so well - you're amazing. You have your two boys and you will get your life and your self-esteem back. I know it's such a cliche but it will take time... you'll get there. This man has tried to beat you down, to make you feel worthless, he has manipulated you and hurt you: put a sticker on your phone that says "Don't!" for the next time you feel like ringing him. Don't give him the satisfaction of letting him know you are still thinking about him: the thing he will hate most of all is to feel he is now irrelevant in your life, other than being the father of your children. Concentrate now on YOU and your boys, and your life together. You are a fantastic person.

Take care, MM XXX

marthamoo · 09/01/2004 14:08

FF, if she rings again just say, calmly, "we have nothing to say to each other" and put the phone down. Keep saying to yourself "he is nothing to me now - and neither is his slapper troll of a gf "

fio2 · 09/01/2004 14:13

Um FF what exactly did she want to talk to you about?

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 14:16

Marthamoo, he completly doesn't feel like he is irelevant after me screaming at him and saying how much i love him, nut nut
Yes she rang, she wanted to point out a few things to me that i shouldn't be doing. She has a really posh voice, i'm sooooo jealous she sounds lovely.
First of all she is very good with children as she has lots of brothers and sisters. Secondly her dad left when she was young and she witnessed her mum crying so she knows how i feel.
My x has tried every which way to see the boys, it is me holding him back and being horrible as i want him back. Blah blah blah.
She will now think i'm a psycho as i screamed in a rage. The thing that sent me over the edge was, children can sense things and i really don't like the manner in which you talk about there father, do you think it is sensible to spread rumours around your community that he is abusive, i think you should learn to put your childrens needs first instead of slagging off the father.....
I lost the plot i was losing my voice i was shouting so much
Hate to say this as it is quite rude and terrible to admit, but i ended the conversation saying you do know i f@cked his brains out in October (i did)

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turnupthebass · 09/01/2004 14:20

didnt he tell you very recently that she means nothing to him? not tell her that?

I didnt think he had your new number? only your email? getting confused.

no wonder you lost it with her ff. still can't get over the cheek of it.

fio2 · 09/01/2004 14:22

God that sounds exactly how a student would talk. Cant you get one of those things where you can tell which number is phoning so you dont have to answer if its him?

I would have gone mad too. It actually makes my stomach turn to imagine what you would have felt like. But they are playing a game with you FF and it cant carry on. You must not speak to them again, please get in touch with the CSA and get your solicitor to send that letter.

Also has he signed a parental responsibilty form when the boys were born?

turnupthebass · 09/01/2004 14:22

don't be jealous of her - in any way. sounds a bit stuck up and certainly too full of herself to me!!

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 14:23

Thats what i mean she said she rang 192, i payed for my no. to be changed but its listed!

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fio2 · 09/01/2004 14:24

well I would get back in touch with them and say you asked for x-directory and its not so can you please change it again.

turnupthebass · 09/01/2004 14:25

did you request ex-directory? may be worth complaining to the phone co. and requesting another new number?