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Advice about X getting nasty (sorry its long)

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Festivefly · 21/12/2003 14:58

I need some advice about what to do. Three weeks ago i decided i couldn't have contact with my x anymore. Seeing him was tearing me apart. The final straw was when he rang constantly throughout the night to tell me how much he missed me. At first i'd put the phone down and tell him to ring his girlfriend not me. In the end i fell for it and started to listen. He told me what a legend i was, remembered wonderful things we did together. It opened up a healing wound. He said please babe come and see me, you can stay the night, we'll put our kids to bed, and then have a drink and a chat. I told him that i couldn't handle seeing him as a friend, if i got on with him i wouldn't want to leave, and it woild take all my strength to hold myself back from kissing him. To that he said it doesn't matter just come.He told me that he hardly saw his girlfriend it had only been a month it was nothing serious. I couldn't resist it, my heart lifted, and i thought thank god this nightmare is over. I went on the train with my heart beating for joy. I thought finally the man i love has seen sense and gone back to his old self.
I got to his flat there were candles everywhere a hairdryer plugged in, flowers, a make up bag, her post, her art work.......... I felt like vomiting, i screamed what the hell are you trying to do to me, i didn't want to see this. He said what were you expecting to happen, i asked you to come here so you could see where our boys would be sleeping. I started to shake shouted a bit and left. It was the final straw i got on the train home and had a panic attack. Then i went numb. All i could imagine was them together doing what we used to do. A week later i went on anti-depressants. They didn't agree with me so i stopped. He'd done it finally i was going to have my nervous break down.
My family found out about the state of me and took over. I didn't know what i was doing anymore, i'd stopped feeling. They rang him up and said if you want to see the kids you will have to meet them at our house. They changed my telephone no. The immense relief that i gained really brought me back to life. I haven't spoken to him for three weeks. I haven't been called a victim, a whore,lazy.......He would constantly tell me that i loved that he had gone because i could act like a martr and attention seek. I do nothing with my life except watch the kids and i was pathetic for going nowhere, while he is doing a degree.
Anyway he didn't get in touch with my parents so my gorgeous calm kind father rang up and said are you going to see the kids when do you want to, we need to know when to be in because its christmas. He told my dad to go f**k himself. He will not be dictated to by anyone. He will not be seeing them until i stop being stupid and ring him. He said there no way on this earth you are going to call the shots. Nobody has told him when or for how long he can see them. Thats up to him i would never stop him. I just don't want to see him as i nearly lost my mind. He has said that he will ring back, we've all ruined it, hes getting a solicitor, and things are going to change. Im scared, what can he achieve???????
Thankyou to anyone who has managed to read to the end of this without falling asleep sorry its so long, and sorry for repeating some stuff if you know it already. Thanks

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lilibet · 07/01/2004 22:13

Just sat here reading this and feeling so bad that I hadn't seen it beofre, ff you have been fantastic! You have done everything right and are going to get thru this and will have a happy ending!
Have you contacted the CSA yet? You need to get him giving you the money that is due to your boys.
So looking forward to meeting you. We will swop ex stories and get pi**ed!

Twinkie · 08/01/2004 08:32

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Festivefly · 08/01/2004 14:16

Lillibet, thanks i'm looking forward to having a drink too, i'm glad you think i'm going about this the rught way (if there is one)
Twinkie thanks for all your advice, and your not the only one that wants to see his face when the letter arrives!

Well i have been to see the solicitor, it was fine. A lot better than you imagine, i thought it would all be very serious and formal, but she was a lovely lady. First of all she is writing a letter to him (she will send it me first and if i don't like anything i can change it). The letter stipulates what i want to happen, it explains that if it is not suitable for him then it could be discussed. But under no circumstance (well maybe a few extreme ones ) can he have my no. he will pick the children up from my parents. The children are the main concern and unless consistency is achieved the matter will be reviewed.So it is there in black and white his invite to see his children, i don't have to be the excuse for him not to anymore.
Also she has found me a family mediator, these sound fantastic. X will get an appointment to see one in chester and i will get one here and they will act as a go between until everything is sorted, I DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO HIM !!!!!!!!!!!
He doesn't have to meet the mediator if he doesn't want to but it is advised by all solicitors before going to the courts. The leaflet is fabulous about it, they don't judge take sides they come to a fair solution. She has sent him info on this too.
She has kept a copy of his email and recorded all the dates he has let the kids down etc.
He once called me a victim, who loved the situation i was in as i could cry and get sympathy. Lets see who the victim is now matey

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Loobie · 08/01/2004 16:02

WELL DONE FF YOU ARE SOUNDING MORE CONFIDENT EVERY TIME YOU POST. YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!

Twinkie · 08/01/2004 16:07

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Festivefly · 08/01/2004 16:18

Thanks Loobie and Twinkie, it does feel great i feel in control again. I feel like for once i can stand proud and say don't manipulate me anymore it's stopped working. I have tried to be reasonable for six months now, he has had every chance to do this and has just taken the p*ss. It's not all good though, i still feel bad about it, but what else can i do. It has really drawn a line under us so i will bloody miss him believe it or not. Idiot

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Festivefly · 09/01/2004 11:35

Shit shit shit shit shit, i have single handedly, fucked up the whole situation, i am in so much pain, i can bearly breath. I've rang him, and screamed, and cryed, and asked why, i lost the plot. I'm sitting here now in front of my children crying and its upsetting them

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fio2 · 09/01/2004 11:41

Look FF, yesterday was a big day for you - even if you didnt feel it at the time you were most probably traumatised by it. You are a real person with real feelings not a robot. So what you have rang him up and shouted at him, he does deserve it. Just put it behind you now and try to get back on track doing the things you were doing before. Trying to stay in control of the situation.

I really do feel for you. You sound so lovely and it is horrible that you had the misforune to fall in love with such a b***d. Please dont cry

JanH · 09/01/2004 11:46

FF, why did you ring him?

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 11:48

I thought i was getting better, i've not cried like this for months, i was horrible to him. So i got all the abuse back, he told me that i was worth nothing he was sleeping with someone else because i am a piece of shit. He told me that all i cared about was the kids and it was pathetic that i do nothing.........it really bloody hurts, he said in the background to his girlfriend sorry babe i'll be with you in a minute its just the siily cow who can't let me go

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Festivefly · 09/01/2004 11:50

I don't know why i rang him it has been so difficult all over christmas not to, i know it was stupid and weak i just couldn't keep up the strength anymore

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M2T · 09/01/2004 11:51

FF - DON'T RING HIM AGAIN! What an a*rse. Maybe if HE gave more of a damn about his kids then this would be a much happier situation.

You are the one who is perfectly normal here..... he is acting like a 1st class dickhead acting up in front of his tart. Don't let him get you down. You've come a long way!

F*ck him!

JanH · 09/01/2004 11:51

Oh, sweetheart, you really let yourself in for that, didn't you - it must be so hard for you, trying to be strong and sensible when you still want him...knowing he's really not worth getting upset over isn't going to stop you doing it. Just please try to remember that the things he says about you are not true, you are doing a fantastic job with your boys, and there will be a time when you don't want him any more. Hugs xxx

fio2 · 09/01/2004 11:52

Oh No, please dont ring him up again. He is so degrading to you Honestly maybe if he ever grows up he will realise that most women put their kids first and being a Mother is not a worthless job. Anyway how pathetic is he? What is he doing that is so bloody fantastic - not alot by the sounds of things. How old is he? He has walked out on his kids and not bothered with, shacked up with a little immature tart and is dossing at college all day. Sounds like he IS doing really well(!!! NOT!!!) urgh, he makes me angry aswell.

fio2 · 09/01/2004 11:55

he is so obnoxious. Agree with Janh though you WILL get over him. My Dad was just like this to my Mum when he left, my lovely Mum was a mess - on the verge of a breakdown if Im honest. My Dad used to torment her all the time - I cant stand him now. My Mum IS happy though FF, you will get to this stage. My Dad is in the same rut, making a mess - never being satified or happy - who'd want to be like that?

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 11:55

I hate it when i feel like this, i deserve it for ringing him. He is totally totally not in love with me, his distance is unbearable, i f@cking still love him don't i. What the hell is wrong with me??????????

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JanH · 09/01/2004 11:59

There's nothing wrong with you except that you do love him - him not deserving it doesn't mean you can just switch it off. You've been really strong the last few days, you are getting there slowly, but you are bound to have relapses sometimes - I am really proud of you, how you are dealing with it, honestly!

nearlymybeetrootday · 09/01/2004 11:59

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Festivefly · 09/01/2004 12:00

He said he had done nothing wrong, anybody in there right mind would leave me, i asked why he was so cruel and he said because i treat him like dirt. Why when somebody has held my hand twice to give birth, made love to me, been on holiday.......... everything, why why does he hate me so much, what is wrong with me that he has to fall in love with another women, what has she got that i haven't

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JanH · 09/01/2004 12:02

It's not you, it's him - he just isn't a grownup - he's a big kid moving on to a new toy. You are lovely!

fio2 · 09/01/2004 12:07

FF stop tormenting yourself. It is him not you. There is nothing wrong with you. He sounds like he is just trying to hold onto his youth. He is a twat

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 12:12

I need a fag
You should see the state of me, i can't go out for ages i look like i've been swimming for a week

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JanH · 09/01/2004 12:14

Have one then - have 2 in fact! (One in each hand ) And keep smiling!

zebra · 09/01/2004 12:15

We don't always get to choose who we fall in love with.
And being in love with somebody does not mean you can make a happy life with them.
Sorry, how anti-Hollywood can I put this? Sometimes (actually, quite often) Love is Definitely Not Enough.

Festivefly · 09/01/2004 12:17

Love hurts

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