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Gone with the condiments

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LouP19 · 30/08/2012 21:12

Evening all,... Thank you to whoever came up with this lovely shiney new thread title!! Grin

As for Fedora, well I looked and it certainly wasn't her I saw in the picture!! He did go to Italy though, I saw pictures on his camera of the Bay of Naples, and also a few video clips of boat trips. And that's when I saw one single picture of a young blonde who he called 'Fedora'. 'I took a picture of her as she's very attractive and I wanted to remember what she looked like'. Jeez, I had a bit of a go, but I left that one because I couldn't be arsed to have an argument. This was about 4 days before he left.

Anyway, onto other things. Had one of these evenings where I can't stop my brain from whirling over details from the last few months. Times when I believed him because it meant an easier life. Believing him meant not being called 'paranoid' or insecure' or told to 'grow up'. Believing him meant some peaceful times on my own, not having to put up with him stomping about, resenting the fact that he was here. Believing him the time he claimed he got a 4 1/2 hour train back from London one evening in November when he smelt of aftershave.

Arrrggghhh! I know there's nothing I can do to stop this churning, but I am SO annoyed at myself. There were signs, but I just hoped things would get better. He always complained of being under pressure at work, so I had faith that he was trying his best.

Am so tempted to contact his boss and let him know what he's being doing under the 'guise' of work. Obviously, I wouldn't do it, but it is so tempting,......

Need to remember revenge is a life well lived blah blah!! Confused

OP posts:
Jux · 01/09/2012 21:07

What a piece of work he is. I think OW isn't doing washing, ironing, cooking, shopping, cleaning etc. I think she's expecting him to do quite a lot of it, and has maybe told him that once her baby is born she will be expecting him to change nappies and mop up vomit, too.

I do think it's important that someone does post occasionally about what is actually legal on this thread, for the benefit of lurkers looking who don't want to start their own thread. Having said that, Porto, that last post was very rude. Lou has every right to post in Relationships, it's not just for advice, it's for support in any form an OP finds helpful.

I'm upset that Frontline can't be used by humans. On the other hand, it's frightfully expensive, I think we'd have to use at least two doses each which mean I'd have to buy NINE doses every time! For these two reasons, (and because I'm not really an idiot) I shall find some insect repellant, and continue with my blitz of the house. 3 loads of washing and drying nearly done, despite the door of the washing machine falling off after the first load! Grin

lunar1 · 01/09/2012 21:08

Adding another voice to the PI suggestion. I never ever feel sorry for the OW but i am really starting to think she is completely in the dark about you and has fallen for his crap.

I hope you keep your thread here, it really shows other how much support is out there.

MissFenella · 01/09/2012 21:11

Was going to say what poogles said. Sept is all about buying time, knowing you will have to make big decision by end of month.

At least he is transparent!

biggestregret · 01/09/2012 21:11

Right porto. If you read the frickin thread you would see it was me that originally referred to a grown up / serious person.

SO BACK OFF

gingerpig · 01/09/2012 21:11

Porto, I hope you are policing ALL the other threads on these boards to make sure no dodgy advice is given to those poor, unwitting lurkers..

violetwellies · 01/09/2012 21:12

Fleas: several times I have used products on large animals that recommend that it doesn't come into contact with skin (and it has, If the ungrateful beggars had just stood still ...) they contain pyrethrin it didn't stop me getting bitten Grin

SuperSlattern · 01/09/2012 21:15

Then those who do not agree with the advice that is being posted on here should report it to MNHQ and follow the talk guidlines.

I cannot understand anyone feeling scared. Its an anonamous site. No one is going to get hurt.

But seriously if you dont agree, then please report the thread

SweetFannyCraddock · 01/09/2012 21:21

Actually lou did too. And advice given on the internet should be taken with a pinch of salt. I am a waitress from shropshire, but could tell anyone I am a nurse from cumbria and dole out medical advice.

I think some posters are carrying a grudge against porto over and (as I said earlier) discrediting her based on their own feelings.

She is the one being bullied here.

And I do not wish to be a part of that.

MmeDefarge · 01/09/2012 21:22

How about:

'saying I feel really bad about what has happened seems to get me the most sympathy from my parents and sister so maybe it will work with you too. I have no idea how normal people with human feelings actually work, so it's all just guess work on my part. I cannot bear to be badly thought of. It is not allowed, not even by my pregnant wife who I cheated on and abandoned.

I miss you. I had put a lot of time and effort into training you to fit around my needs. OW still needs a lot of work before she is as well-trained as you were. It is very boring for me. In fact, she is spending a worrying amount of energy on herself and getting ready for this baby of hers . I am worried she will never fully grasp that I am the most important and special one.

It is all a bit much tbh. So, I am going away for 'work' in September to prowl for my next victim.'

Portofino · 01/09/2012 21:22

No my point is people are too scared too comment or give advice. TOO SCARED.

Lagartijadoesthecrazyshake · 01/09/2012 21:25

But Porto is right, it has turned into a quiche. Lou herself has asid she has real life advice from solicitors, counsellors, the bank...and that she likes to come on here for the banter and to cheer herself up. So I think it wouldn't hurt to move it to OTBT or similar as it's not really relationship advice any more, is it? And some of the "advice" has been a bit mad to say the least.

SweetFannyCraddock · 01/09/2012 21:25

Yep

Lagartijadoesthecrazyshake · 01/09/2012 21:26

Scared of what? The wrath of the pom pom shakers (who I think perhaps are over investing slightly)

violetwellies · 01/09/2012 21:27

But lavender essential oil was quite effective.

Jux · 01/09/2012 21:27

Well, I'm sorry people are scared. I have sometimes been too scared to post on a thread. What I mean really, is I can't really be arsed and there are others who can.

There's no need to be scared. If you feel really strongly about something then you should stand up and say it. Otherwise, report. But really, why is Lou not allowed to have the sort of support she wants at this horrible time?

ladyWordy · 01/09/2012 21:27

Re the text... I don't think remorse is his thing, but regret might be. It would be easy to picture him in his new life with a girlfriend who has turned out to be boringly human, despite being attractive or whatever the big draw was.

Not only tiresomely human but pregnant, which is also boring if you're the egotistical. You have to look after pregnant women and take them to appointments if you want to look like a Nice Person.

And maybe she isn't all that chuffed with him dragging in bags of frozen meat, teaspoons, a bucket, lampshade, radio, cuddly toy....!

So maybe he really does want to come back. Which is a tribute to Lou, but an option he threw away long ago, and does not deserve.

Portofino · 01/09/2012 21:29

No - people have different views and feel they cannot post them due to strenght of feeling of the supporters on here.

SweetFannyCraddock · 01/09/2012 21:30

I was accused of over-labouring the point earlier because I responded to other posts and didn't toe the same line. There is a lot of intolerance on this thread.

Lagartijadoesthecrazyshake · 01/09/2012 21:32

I think it's great that she gets support from this thread but some posters are making really foolhardy suggestions or offering dangerous/quite wrong advice, which could be taken as gospel by someone else reading this and then pounce on somebody else, saying..."woaah, hang on..that's not sensible".
Some people are getting waaaaay to emotionally involved/addicted to the ups and downs of this.

SweetFannyCraddock · 01/09/2012 21:33

I was accused of over-labouring the point earlier because I responded to other posts and didn't toe the same line. There is a lot of intolerance on this thread.

SweetFannyCraddock · 01/09/2012 21:33

Bugger, apologies.

TheDreadedFoosa · 01/09/2012 21:34

Porto - quite honestly you're coming across very badly here. You seem really stressed by the very existence of these threads, to the point you now want them moved?!

Its not normal, really it isnt.

Im sure we all have certain threads that irk us for some reason or other, think its pretty standard to ignore them really, possibly after an initial flurry of posts stating ones point. But youre still here, still stressing, still desperately trying to finf fault. I think you need to let it go.

Every topic on here is filled with duscussions which contain bad advice, such is the nature of the internet. In fact, bollocks, such is the nature of human interaction. It is perfectly clear Lou is getting all the professional asvice she needs (though you of course have even managed to find fault with that).

The fact is there is something about Lou's threads which have got your back up, and because you know you cant come right out and say what it is ( without retaing the moral high ground, which you dont actually have btw) you are instead nitpicking and seeking out any scrap of a reason you can to have a pop.

Youve said the truth already remember? And promptly got deleted...

Give it up, you are actually embarassing yourself.

MissFenella · 01/09/2012 21:39

I may not get the etiquette here but, why keep returning to a thread where you feel you are 'bullied'.

There are loads of threads begging for posts/advice, what is the draw to post here alone? And with the same posts too.

You have tried, been ignored, so move on maybe?

SweetFannyCraddock · 01/09/2012 21:39

I thought there was discussion about whether it was safer to move the threads to otbt in the earlier threads?!

Honestly, it seems like bullying now. You will never like anything porto says. And I agree that maybe she should stop posting here, not for your sakes, but for hers. This is a witch hunt, and some are def not coming across well, not sure its porto though.

Southfacing · 01/09/2012 21:42

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