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Honey traps and stunning women aplenty - dating thread 20!

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watchoutforthatsnail · 22/08/2012 10:38

20!!!!!!

Bloody hell :)

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snapespeare · 27/08/2012 13:07

Stealth-news. PM has changed his profile pic on OKC again. niggling suspicion he has found this thread via my iPad, in which case Hmm he now looks sweet and dishevelled and very, very handsome. Sad

snapespeare · 27/08/2012 13:30

Hmmm. & we're not doing the gym today, he's got a presentation to write. Hmmmm.

Hmm.

hatesponge · 27/08/2012 13:42

He's not doing the gym as he's sad about you and the Prof, and doesn't want you to see!

Which is both :( and :)

snapespeare · 27/08/2012 13:44

sponge. Coffee. Go for a coffee! I have a bit of a anti-thing about men that are shorter than me, but frankly life is for living, you wouldnt notice his height if he were horizontal. If all the other boxes tick, then at least have a coffee. It's a coffee and a museum, not the rest of your life. :)

snapespeare · 27/08/2012 13:44

Well he can't avoid me for ever, can he.

hatesponge · 27/08/2012 13:52

Grin I have a friend who whenever I comment about men's (lack of) height says 'well you're all the same lying down'. I might think about it. I've never been asked to a museum before. And as I'd be walking around I'd have to wear flat shoes anyway...

I think PM might need a bit of time with the whole Prof thing...what would be good is if he both realises why he is sad, and then acts on it & takes the leap of faith... Grin

I really do watch too many films!

Yogagirl17 · 27/08/2012 14:21

Got a message on GS from a nice-looking 50 year old who runs his own business. Not really too bothered but at least its a distraction.

snape & sponge - any chance you can send some of these professor/phd types up my way?

Yogagirl17 · 27/08/2012 14:27

On second thought - XH was an arrogant bastard one of those phd types so maybe I should try something different!

mercury7 · 27/08/2012 14:51

nice looking 50 year old?
I'd suspect a 10 year old profile pic...

ladygoingGaga · 27/08/2012 14:58

Happy birthday Llareggub! Chocolate in bed with the kids sounds lush.

Back from my first, first date, it was surprisingly good, he was a lot better looking than his picture, we shared good conversation over a coffee.

Thank you for the advice, the conversation was quite light and I didn't divulge my living arrangements.

So he left saying text me later if your free, so I will wait a few hours then send something.

Blimey, first toe in the dating water and I'm still alive Grin

Trying to catch up with everyone's stories on here

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/08/2012 15:46

Sorry to barge in with this, but I need help....

I need to dump mrl.
This weekend has been an eyeopener, maybe this and the lenght of time ive known him...

Time said early on she thought he might be autistic, fairly certain shes right, nothing against people with ir,but I dont have nor want to have the energy to deal with it.
Family all think he is ' perculiar'
( Because he is)
And dirty
( Because hes had a Mouse living in his room for 6 weeks, didnt wash the whole time we were there, wore the same grubby clothes, has a skanky pillow that reeks, that he sleeps with.
Doesnt eat much bar ham sandwiches, chips and nuggets.
Cant seem to cope in social situations
Cant communicate
Cant fill a hot water bottle, apparently needs some time to practice...!!!
Essentially dd aged 6 has more common sense and thought..
He snapped at dd
Called her fatty when she asked for sweets
Didnt pull his weight at all. Hardly lifted a finger all weekend.

Plus, he paid hardly anything, this has been a bit of a sore point, he doesnt pay petrol, eats my food and never contributes,nor offers too, doesnt pay car parking, or just anything. Think hes paid for 3 meals ever, and thats all, financially ive had from him... Bearing in mind hes been having,maybe 2 breakfasts, lunches and dinners a week for ages....

He paid one nights camping out of 3, And ate for free, tries to sponge food off everyone else there. Expected others to buy him ice cream and pay for activities for him!!!

Hes not for me.
It's just nice to have attention/good sex... But that's not enough to carry this on.

But I feel mean. I dont know if I should explain, or what?

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hatesponge · 27/08/2012 15:57

Watch oh no Shock

That's such a shame BUT from that list TOTALLY understandable. Sometimes I think maybe you don't see faults in someone day to day, but when you're confined in close quarters (like when camping) they become all too obvious.

Are you 100% sure of this? I know I would be over the DD comment alone, if ANYONE dared call DS1 or 2 fat in front of me, I would go mad. But I am v v oversensitive about weight and that sort of 'teasing' Hmm But do you need time to think about it or is your mind made up?

If the latter (and mine would be) I think you'll have to be honest-ish. You did like him, you've had a brilliant time but you feel following the weekend you're too different, you're not sure you see it working in the longer term...that kind of thing?

I am crap at dumping people. I dumped one Ex by voicemail.

I am sure others will have words of wisdom.

In the meantime many (((()))) I'd offer you some of the chocolate the DSs got me from Switzerland if they hadn't eaten it all themselves!

Concentrateonthegood · 27/08/2012 15:57

Watch, I "watched" your romance unfold on here over the weeks. I think you should just say that feelings are not deepening as expected, you've enjoyed what you had and now it's at an end for you. (Easier said than done, I grant you!) This is more than he deserves given what he said to your daughter!

I went out with someone I met in RL for a few months. He had no job and I was conscious that I was paying for everything not because I wanted to but because he put me on the spot about it. I plucked up the courage to ask him outright whether his interest in me was financial, he said something so very hurtful to me that I walked out and haven't seen or heard from him since. He also had communication and social problems as he has Aspergers but even so, there was never going to be any partnership and I would have had to have been the backbone of the relationship when all I've wanted is an equable and fair partnership.

Good luck!

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/08/2012 16:03

Oh, he wasnt jesting with dd. She asked for some sweets after lunch and he just turned to face her, from inside the tent ( we were.outside) and said ' fatty' then turned back again.
Just that is enough for me to dump him.
If dd was a skinny thing it might not be so bad, but she's in age 9-10 clothes, shes very tall and is in proportion for her height. But bigger than other children her age, I.dont want her to be self conscience, or get issues, Its wrong of him.

I.don't know if I should have a talk, or Text or what?

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Yogagirl17 · 27/08/2012 16:04

Oh Watch, I'm sorry. I don't think there's any point in trying to explain to him that you think he might be autistic, you just need to tell him that although you care about him you don't feel a relationship between the two of you is going to work. Good luck. xxx

lubeybooby · 27/08/2012 16:09

Text dump at this stage is fine watch.

And I agree get rid, that list is just awful.

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/08/2012 16:10

He could have asperbergers too.
He's weird.
When you only see each other once or twice a week you don't really notice, or its easier to explain away, but I can't ignore this weekend.

Dd came in my side of the airbed for a cuddle one morning and he tried to shag me too. Bloody awful.

Ive a bit of work drama going on atm, spoke to him about it, he said he Didnt know what to say as hes not grown up enough to deal with stuff like that.
He lives with his mum, and Said she wss the only.grown up in the house.

While I was gone sat he stayed behind camping, family reported They had to talk, treat him like dd to get him to do anything.

I dont need a second child tbh.

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Yogagirl17 · 27/08/2012 16:11

Ooh, I don't know. For me, txt dump after 1 or 2 dates yes but not after a spending actual time together. I would txt to say "we need to talk, can I phone u later" - he'll be forwarned, know something is up. Then tell him over the phone.

snapespeare · 27/08/2012 16:17

watch. Sad sponge said my first initial thought, if anyone criticised my DCs, I would be furious with them. I probably wouldn't care what family thought of someone I was seeing, but with everything else alongside it, they might be right. I'm so sorry. You're amazing though (you know we all think that) & it's courageous of you to see past the lust-goggles. You'll do what's right for you. ((hug-thing))

Back to 'mememe' I've been offered an audition for something, which is daft because I don't act (except for everything to do with PM) texted PM, he already knew about it, I did an 'I don't act' wobble text 'what am I doing? Why am I doing this?' he replied 'because it'll be fun'. I drove up his road on the way home to see him walking down the road with his lesbian ex, looking miserable (clearly not writing your presentation then... Hmm) so I 'beeped' him & waved on the way past...then texted 'suspect 'fun' to be over-rated (drive-by 'hello')'. So something is going on isn't it? I just don't know what.

Anyway, I'm seeing PM tomorrow. Filth texting with the prof continues a pace.

(back to watch). I'm so sorry. Your decision is yours, but I think it's time to say goodbye. Look back on the good times fondly. He's not for you, is he.

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/08/2012 16:25

No, hes not.
Regular sex has Been lovely, so has the hope that there is someone for me.
Etc, etc.
But I think that It's over now..
I just feel bad, he has no clue this is coming.

And I dont know what to say.

Taking it,snape, you have a second date lined up :)

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KirstyWirsty · 27/08/2012 16:26

Watch My daughter is the same - Age 7 and in 9-10 clothes - tallest in the year!

If anyone called her fatty I'm afraid they would be getting the elbow no matter how good they are in bed

He was never Mr Forever anyhow and he sounds a bit skanky with his poor washing habits so I think you are right to ditch.

snapespeare · 27/08/2012 16:29

Well he has no clue, because he wouldn't be able to pick up the signs would he, even if they were blatantly there. I think you need a very careful 'script', no need to attribute blame, I'd be inclined to go with the 'depth of feeling isn't there, don't want to waste your time, I don't see a future in it, I'm sorry' Horrid though, don't envy you, but don't feel 'bad'. You don't own his feelings, he needs to deal with those himself, just be as kind and direct as
Possible.

Yes, 2nd date. shagging read back when you have time, it's rather amusing Hmm.

MadameOvary · 27/08/2012 16:36

Hope you're having a FAB birthday Llareggub Smile

Oh Watch definitely get rid, any way you wish. None of those things will ever get better. And I would be fuming if that was said to my DD.

Snape - Lesbian ex?!

NicholasTeakozy · 27/08/2012 16:42

Watch, it's a shame but like you and the others say, he has to go. Calling your daughter fatty is the worst thing. The other things are reason enough to bin.

Snape, wrt to PM I think he's known it's you since he first viewed your profile, judging by his choice of profile pics since. You might find out tomorrow.

snapespeare · 27/08/2012 16:43

madameO. Keep up! Yes. Am aware that this reads like an episode of 'jerry springer'

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