womens attitudes to crossdressing

[calikid]

hi everyone,

i write this as a response to the numerous comments on a variety of posts regarding reaction to any stories where crossdressing is a subject. Firstly i'd like to make it clear that i am male and as such appreciate i may be laying myself bare to the onslaught of comment that is likely to come my way. although male i love to wear "womens clothes". What I would like to know is simply why shouldn't I. can anyone give me one valid reason why I shouldn't? because I have never been able to think of one.
I am happily married with two dds and a beautiful wife , all of whom i love very much. My wife knows all about my dressing and has been with me to a couple of tv gatherings. i told her not long after we got together and she was totally fine with it, we have been married now for 8 yrs. we do not let the children know as they are still quite young.
In all other respects I am very much one of the lads......I like football and beer (but then so do many women!), i work in construction, I teach martial arts, I help with housework , I don't mind ironing(coz i can do it while watching tv!)
I take a size 10 and look pretty good in a skirt and heels, but then so does my wife, its just she can do it whenever she pleases and good for her. its just the injustice and ignorance of society that infuriates me.
I'm curious to know how the rest of women feel about the issue

yes tether, and i have been answering all the arguments thrown at me as fully and clearly as i can and yet the same old attitudes keep cropping up!

Hmm, yes, that's the thing- you do tend to have arguments thrown at you when you invite them.

Have you thought about a hat?

yes of course, and that was what i was expecting, however, when they are continually repeated and my answers are either misrepresented or ignored then it becomes a bit irritating. and if you have been following any of the posts you will appreciate there is alot of negative predjuice based on irrational arguments.

Almost everyone on this thread has said they're okay with cross dressing, they just may not want a cross dressing partner.

Some of discussed that they feel the fact that many cross dressers dress up in a very characteristic way of what a 'woman looks like' misogynist.

What exactly are you so angry about? Genuine question. This thread has been going for almost a year and almost everyone agrees that there's nothing wrong with cross dressing. So what is the problem???

when you get the likes of offred suggesting my clothing preferences is downright offensive to many women, and fluffy suggesting a man in a skirt would look idiotic, and another who i can't remember saying she would want to see some big hairy man walking around in a summer dress, then this to me suggests there is alot of unfounded predjudice, and i think you would agree we have to challenge predjudice in society in whatever form and wherever we encounter it.

and as i have argued before, it is this sort of ingrained and overt predjudice which perpetuates the present state and allows others to easily follow suit. all you have to do is listen to the media and be aware of comments passed off as humour which denigrate and ridicule men who like to dress as women. if this was to occur regarding other sectios of society there would be outrage, but in this instance it goes relatively unchallenged!

And all you have to do is watch the media to see how many films there are mocking women by men being dressed up as them. That's what you should be upset about.

The poster who said it would look idiot actually was referencing her own husband, not ALL men. She was discussing sexual attraction.

Your OP was about educating women. None of your posts are about educating women other than insisting we have no right to not find cross dressing sexually desirable.

Sorry didn't finish my sentence properly.

And all you have to do is watch the media to see how many films there are mocking women by men being dressed up as them. That's what you should be upset about. That's what makes it so 'hilarious.' That is the issue that causes the prejudice, but almost all posters in almost a year have said they're okay with cross dressing so I have no idea why you're targetting women specifically in your OP... Unless it's because we have no right to not be sexually attracted to a cross dresser?

Please answer my question. Do you believe women are within the rights to find cross dressing sexually undesirable and not want a relationship with someone who cross dresses?

special, of course i agree women have the choice, as do men have the choice not to date women who wear mens clothes! again, i've said this on numerous occasions but this part of my argument has been largely ignored. read back through my posts and this is made clear.

A YEAR.

Lets talk about something else for a bit, calikid. Lighten the mood.

Which do you prefer, kittens or puppies?

Well I was confused because you got very upset about a poster saying she would find her husband to look idiotic: ie sexually unappealing if he was in a dress. So that sort of contradicts your belief that women have the choice.

Very glad you believe that everyone has the choice to what turns them off or on though. :)

and, yes i agree that the mocking of women in films etc is unacceptable. it doesn't serve our argument nor does it create any positive image of cds, quite the contrary!

I like kittens.

tether this is all your fault, you fed him again.

perhaps fluffies husband is big and hairy and would look shit in a dress! she doesn't specify, but equally it sound like she has never seen him dressed and clearly if he is cd then with her overt attitude she never will!

tether, to anwer your lighter qeustion, i prefer anything with a heel compared to pumps

Cali you've just walked straight into making the argument that you have claimed throughout this whole thread to be vehemently opposed to:

'Perhaps fluffies husband is big and hairy and would look shit in a dress'

I thought you were espousing total clothing rights, for men to be able to wear whatever they wanted, unchallenged and unjudged by society.

You're a knob.

Oh, and I'd like the word 'dressed' back please.

I like kittens.
I like puppies too. I tend to struggle with the evil desires of the cat as it matures to kill for fun, so I think puppies win overall.
Baby bunnies are probably the cutest of all though.

jayho spot on in your post at 10.41.

Hmm, interesting.

It's kittens for me. Although I could live a full and happy life without either.

What about music?

Fleetwood Mac or Celine Dion?

I feel like I barely know you.

jayho, for a start calling people names is pretty childish, isn't it?

secondly, I haven't walked into anything. I was merely commenting on another potential reason why fluffy might have that attitude to the image of her husband in a dress. I wasn't suggesting she was right, far from it, i was merely speculating on her motives.

for all i know, she could be the big hairy one. If so, would it be right that she should then be the one to be castigated for wearing a dress?

and what is meant by the final comment

"i'd like the word dressed back" supposed to mean?

Oh dear god. I have just wasted 20 mins of my life reading this thread.

A YEAR, Freddie.

Almost A YEAR.

I had an ex who liked to dress in ladies clothes once. He liked other things as well.

whatever.

^ does that about sum the thread up in 2 lines?

DP plays the pantomime dame. he is a skinny man but takes a size 14 dress.

size 10 for a man is very small.

A couple of my exes were into cross dressing, it never did it for me, I found it reeeaaaalllyyy dull.

One was a raging narcissist loon, one was a genuinely nice person and remains a friend.

I forgot my point.

Luckily, I'm in good company