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Unhappy. What can I do?

138 replies

resistantmaterial · 05/07/2012 17:39

I feel very nervous about posting this, but a couple of female friends have suggested that this can be used for dads as well as mums, so I'll try. Right, I'm a 33 year old man. I have been married for one year and was with my wife for two years before that, but I am not sure I love her any more and I don't think I ever did.

We met on an Internet dating site, were both teachers, although she did not like her job and regularly used to say she wanted to try something else. The relationship was serious, I thought I loved her, but it was in quite early stages when she became pregnant. I obviously accept responsibility for this, but I have to say she did say she was on the Pill, no problem, it happens but it was daunting. We bought a house together and our daughter was born in July 2010, she is a delight, I never thought I'd like babies but it's true it's different when it's your own. Unfortunately, our relationship really broke down. My partner had said she was going back to work part time in March 2011, so our daughter would have been 7 months. When that date came around, she announced she wasn't ready, unfortunately when she was unpaid from maternity leave it meant we couldn't pay the mortgage, and if my parents hadn't given us some money the house would have been in danger. She then said she couldn't leave our daughter and resigned. What I hate about this is that she didn't discuss it with me first and tells me I will have to do something about it. I've got a job working evenings and weekends behind a bar, as at the moment what I bring home from teaching just covers mortgage & bills. We "eat" the child benefit and the bar work money. It isn't much and i rarely see our daughter.

I know she posts on a lot of mum and baby forums and complains about me, saying she has to do everything around the house and cook all the time but what does she expect as I'm never in? Plus as I'm working 2 jobs and she's at home is it really unreasonable for her to do the housework/cooking? She thinks I am. I've begged her to just do a day of supply teaching a week as this would take so much financial pressure off us but she won't. On paper I earn a good salary but I see literally nothing of it. I feel ashamed I have to drive an old banger and work a second job like a student when the other members of staff who are in management roles at school don't. I know this is because of the mortgage but we can't really downsize due to having missed payments and have bad credit.

We don't get on at all, she criticises me all the time and probably feels I do the same to her but I feel as if I compromise on everything and she won't even budge to help.

OP posts:
CamperFan · 05/07/2012 20:11

He wants to work less and see more of his DD, which is what most working men want. I find it ridiculous that his DP could do one day a week of work that would enable him to do this, but refuses. To be fair, I'd want out of that situation too.

CamperFan · 05/07/2012 20:12

I agree, Lentilly!

StillSquiffy · 05/07/2012 20:14
Hmm
HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 05/07/2012 20:14

it was in quite early stages when she became pregnant. I obviously accept responsibility for this, but I have to say she did say she was on the Pill, no problem, it happens but it was daunting.

Do you think she tricked you into getting pregnant then? Cos I can't see why you'd say something like "she said" she was on the Pill otherwise.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 05/07/2012 20:14

Argh bolding fail.

doggiemumma · 05/07/2012 20:16

There are no double standards on this thread as far as i can see - i was the same as the OPs wife, i never went back to work and i was torn to piece on mnet by people who said i should have gone back to work. I defeneded myself, said i needed to look after my child (i didnt have childcare but even so), had PND, etc and got so upset when people told me in no uncertain terms that i was bein unfair to my DP. I didnt go back to work, our finances are still dire, my DP is the shadow of the man he was and i wish i had listened to people who spoke to me on here I used to be Lucyellensmum just in case anyone is wonderin.

SoleSource · 05/07/2012 20:20

The man haters are out to play again, I see.

Hexenbiest · 05/07/2012 20:20

OP has a demanding day job which usually has attached a lot of additional out of hours work and a evening job which usually involves being on feet and could be very busy.

OP doesn't see his daughter as much as he wants and is probably exhausted then has to contend with a unhappy partner who complains that he is not around and doesn't help enough with said daughter.

The only way OP YABU is if there are other options apart from your wife working that you are refusing to consider.

Sit her down with the actual figures maybe suggest weekend, evening work where you can look after DD maybe something other than teaching. Maybe its the teaching she can't face and another job would be o.k?

MsOnatopp · 05/07/2012 20:23

Good on you Doggie for admitting to that! I think I remember you. (have NCed too)

Assuming everything is as it is said here then OP's wife is being so unfair it's crazy.

Having the vagina and being the one to have given birth does not mean you should be allowed to stay home all the time and watch your DP suffer as he gets no time with his own child. Especially when there is such a simple compromise.

I read the thing about the pill as saying he wasn't being irresponsible because he thought they were safe. Just that they were unfortunate (or not as he loves his DC) to have been in the tiny percent for whom the contraception failed.

WhosPickleisThatOnion · 05/07/2012 20:24

He was pointing out she was on the pill before someone jumped down his throat Jeremy Kyle style for not putting something on the end of it I imagine.

AThingInYourLife · 05/07/2012 20:25

No way - I'm a man hater and I still don't think anyone (even men) should have to support another adult who decides unilaterally to give up working.

bobbledunk · 05/07/2012 20:26

Stop buying food/toiletries/clothes for her, if the selfish cow wants to eat she can get off her lazy arse and work. Buy in just enough for your daughter and eat out yourself. Don't give her anything. Tell her all the money is going on the mortgage and bills that she refuses to contribute to.

There is no excuse for her behaviour, she's depriving you of time to bond with your daughter, time to rest and a decent standard of living for the whole family. No man would be given sympathy for that nonsense, she doesn't deserve any either.

You should also get legal advice, it would be better for you to get custody because you can provide for your daughter (and you'd have childcare from gps), completely unfair for you to lose your home and all your income to that lazy woman for the next 18 years just because you share a kid.

LookBehindYou · 05/07/2012 20:31

Bobble, you're suggesting he should act abusively.

Nanny0gg · 05/07/2012 20:31

OP- what do the GP's think of the situation?
Your parents must realise you work all the hours God sends and you don't see your DC.
Hers must realise the same.

And when on earth do you do your planning/marking?

Hexenbiest · 05/07/2012 20:32

If it does turn out to be confidence with teaching - perhaps GP could have the DC while she went into a local school and got her feel for it again?

Had a friend who did this. She'd been a teacher before SAHP and had though she couldn't face going back she got her confidence back and then found work.

SuzySheepSmellsNice · 05/07/2012 20:32

Fairly harsh Bobble but some good points...

Dprince · 05/07/2012 20:33

Where does it say that he wants rid of his dd?
lovebunny are you not going answer whether you are the dw? If you are not where are you getting these extra pieces of info?

AmIthatbad · 05/07/2012 20:45

Poor you, OP, she is being extremely unfair. Huge decisions like not going back to work, that will affect all parties, should be discussed beforehand. I really feel for you.

AThingInYourLife · 05/07/2012 20:46

It's not abusive to refuse to take on financial responsibility for an able-bodied adult who doesn't fancy working.

LookBehindYou · 05/07/2012 21:00

It is abusive to not feed your partner. They are a couple with a very small child. He might not like the situation he is in, but it is his reality.
I don't have patience with sahp who don't work when their income is needed, but the op hasn't answered any of the questions that asked what reasons she gave.
Btw, the OP has disappeared.

ilovesooty · 05/07/2012 21:03

She's being abusive to the OP in my book.

MammaBrussels · 05/07/2012 21:04

I think the OP may have gone to his second job Sad

WhosPickleisThatOnion · 05/07/2012 21:05

It is abusive to not feed your partner. - Seriously she is a grown woman.

Its abusive not to feed your BABY but a grown woman can walk to greggs and buy a pasty.

Anyway you are right the OP has gone and not answering any further questions so we are all just guessing now.

wheredidiputit · 05/07/2012 21:05

Look

He probably at work.

Whether your wife likes it or not she is going to have to work. She does not have the right to say she doesn't want to when your family is getting into financial problems.

ilovesooty · 05/07/2012 21:05

She may not even be able to get supply work one day a week. The supply situation is dire. There doesn't seem to be any justification for her refusal to consider any kind of work.

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