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First relationship since separation, out of the frying pan etc?

122 replies

PeepToes · 11/05/2012 23:49

Hi
I'm in my first relationship since splitting up from my abusive exH, 6 months down the line and I'm questioning his motives for being with me. We met online, and he pursued me, keen to meet my dcs etc. Hes in the military, lives on the camp, and I have my own place. As time has gone on it seems he only visits when I don't have the dcs. He denies me having kids as an issue. He is divorced and has dcs, whom he sees weekly. Money is becoming an issue in that we earn the same, but he has a lot of debt, and has little disposable income, unlike me. This has meant that I spend a lot more on us eg weekends away, most of the shopping etc. I'm in the process of buying my own house, he wants to move in once he leaves the military(end of the year). I will be mortgage free. I have lent him money.
I could go on. Basically I have doubts, but I do like him, am fond of him, and we have a lot of fun together. I'm worried he just wants me, not me and my kids, and I'm getting fed up compartmentalising my life. He knows how I feel, and has suggested he will make time to come over during he week when the kids are here.
My closest friend feels he is just with me because of the lifestyle I have, and he is shallow and selfish.
I don't know what to think.
What would you make of this? Thanks for reading!

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Mogyzogwon · 14/05/2012 19:51

I am so glad you have seen sense. Well done, onwards and upwards as you say.

Please believe,I am sure you have done the right thing. No shadow of doubt.

Take great care in the future and good luck. You are a great girl with lots to offer any man, take your time and be aware,

hattifattner · 14/05/2012 20:14

Peeps, you are by nature a caring person, maybe you need to be needed, and are attracted to men that need you...I used to collect lame duck boyfriends, maybe something to do with low self esteem, you need to feel superior or that you can fix something that is broken. It may be that, coming out of an abusive relationship, you need to feel in control of the new relationship, and the easiest control is financial.

Take some time to figure out what it is you want from a relationship, and then dnt compromise. Listen to your inner voice.

midwife99 · 14/05/2012 21:20

Oh Peeps! A GP - you work really hard & have a respected position in the community & are bringing up DCs on your own. OF COURSE you are too good for him! He is one of those twunts who thinks oooh doctor = loaded! I'll get me some! How very dare he!! Angry

PeepToes · 14/05/2012 22:31

Right so he said he was upset and pissed off at being called a sponger, his word not mine, when I told him about the cancelled credit card, he is now refusing to take my calls etc. Told my folks about the credit card they were so angry and upset but at least I can talk to them, and it's out in the open.

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oikopolis · 14/05/2012 22:40

what a knobber

glad you told him, and thank God he's refusing to take your calls, that way you don't have to fend him off. you can just let him have a strop and not have to talk to him. and hopefully he'll move on to the next woman.

everyone wins!
(except the next woman!)

and well done telling your parents, the more people know the better.

Eurostar · 14/05/2012 23:19

OP, if you can say this "He says I'm the love of his life, the woman he always wanted to meet, and I struggle to believe someone could say such things and be a user" - you really should not be dating anyone until you have done lots of work on yourself and on understanding how those who use others work.

Have you heard of co-dependency? I would have a look at this site and read all that you can about it www.coda-uk.org/
Rein in that side of you that thinks that everyone needs to be looked after and save it for work and posting on net forums :) or you will soon be rather broke, your DC will be at risk and you will constantly feel unloved til your anger grows and you possibly get ill yourself.

plugplant · 14/05/2012 23:34

Well done Peeps, well done mumsnetters for absolutely brilliant advice on here. Peeps, you probably are a brilliant GP, daughter,mum, friend.

If you had debts wouldn't you be anxious about paying them off? Would you borrow someone's credit card and lie about spending it on emergencies when you clearly are not?

Please Peeps, why do you accept such terrible treatment when you would not treat another person as badly as this?

Your dc absolutely depend on you and need decent role models in their lives so that they have a happy and emotionally healthy upbringing.

You have severe self esteem issues and rock bottom self worth if you want to introduce such a dreadful male role model into your dc's lives so soon after another dreadful and abusive male role model (their father).

Please, a worthy partner/friend/lover would never ask for your credit card or do any of the things you have said on here. My worry is that your warning bells did not go off immediately after the request for the card. Why didn't it?

You are actually unable to protect yourself and that has huge repercussion as you are not going to be able to protect your dc if another charming, low level guy comes worming his way into your lives.

Please put your dc's welfare and happiness first, they need it as they would have known how miserable you were with your abusive ex no matter how young they are.

You are a very bright, intelligent woman but that doesn't protect you from scammers, in fact, it makes you even more vulnerable to them.

Please try and meet men through people who know you but because of the ages of your dc (and solvency,) remember you are all very vulnerable to predators like this.

PooPooInMyToes · 15/05/2012 11:11

So have you asked for the money back?

PeepToes · 15/05/2012 11:53

Hi, so my Mum messaged him, and he says he's going to seek solicitors advise. She called him a conman, and a parasite. He said he's going to get a loan to pay back the money he owes me, and its over. So thats the end of that, I guess! I feel sad and relieved at the same time.

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Triffiddealer · 15/05/2012 11:55

Well done Peeps.

I just want to reiterate what Plugplant said.

I am sure that you are a fabulous GP - really genuine and empathetic and a great Mum. You have taken an amazing step getting rid of your abusive ex - and you need to congratulate yourself for that.

BUT you must learn to protect yourself. The world isn't just full of kind people like you. There are some lovely, genuine guys out there, but they wouldn't ask for your credit card for emergencies (???) and then spend money on it - they wouldn't be happy with you paying for everything. I am very sorry, but I think you have seen the last of that £1000. I'm not sure how you will get it back when it was paid for on your card, as he can say you bought it for him, but changed your mind after he dumped you. I hope I'm wrong.

On the positive side, I think your instincts did kick in on this one. I think that maybe your problem is trusting those instincts (especially when you so hope you are wrong - and I know how that feels).

I know you will probably find this hard - but you should be proud of yourself. You sniffed him out, you sought help and you sorted the problem before it got really bad (i.e. he moved in and caused you debts you couldn't pay back). You are making fantastic progress, I hope it goes well with the psychologist.

LittleHouseofCamelias · 15/05/2012 11:59

Hi Peeps I read your thread and wondered if your Loser is the one I met last year! I left my FWH 18 months ago, have the same job as you and am financially secure. I met a dashing divorced military man online and fell for him. But he was Red Flag Central and the wisdom of MN saw him off quickly before he met my DC or damaged me too much. It was a really useful experience because it taught me lessons that I think apply to you as well.

You are a very attractive "catch" and need to keep your standards high and not settle gratefully for anyone who will have you.
There are reasons for the Red Flag warnings. They indicate someone who doesn't treat women with respect and care. And the converse, the Green Flag men, don't cause the pain and the heartache and the uncertainty.

Let him go, tell him you have realised it is all too soon for you and you need to concentrate on your DC and your building project, and don't let him use the money as a way to stay connected with you. Better to write it off and cut him out of your life. You sound lovely! There will be a good man who will treat you properly and the sooner you get rid of this Loser the better.

PooPooInMyToes · 15/05/2012 13:03

If he's planning on getting a loan and paying you back why does he need to see a solicitor? Seems contradictory.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow · 15/05/2012 13:09

Getting a solicitor? What for?

pictish · 15/05/2012 13:15

He will probably not be required by law to pay the money back. OP gave him the credit card willingly, on the understanding that he would pay it back....but I doubt she will ever see a penny again.

And OP - he's supposedly going to arrange another loan to pay you back! This is an indication of what you would have a had to deal with....someone who is utterly shite with money, and refuses to live within his means, expecting something or someone else to pay for it all.

He is taking borrowing left, right and centre while already riddled with debt! And for what? Trinkets!

You are well shot - he probably had some very nice plans for his new house and gp's income. Hmm

elastamum · 15/05/2012 13:36

Hi Peeps, I'm so glad you have got rid of this man. It is only by getting free of him that you will allow yourself to form a better relationship down the line with someone nicer.

Just cut all contact and chalk it up to experience. There are chancers out there on the internet but also some nice men too!

Like you I am in a professional job and financially independent (and just a little bit scary to men sometimes). On the subject of finding men who are financially secure and educated, we realised yesterday at work that 3 of us divorced oldies in my team had met our partners through e harmony! Blush It is a site where you can set filters in terms of education / income and it only sends you profles of people who meet them. It also isnt a shop window so you dont have to post yourself on the web. This doesnt necessarily mean they will all be nice though, although the worst I could say is that some where a bit dull. But it worked for me and I am now very happy with my BF who is an academic and just a bit geeky like me!

Good luck, you are well rid Smile

PeepToes · 15/05/2012 15:00

Thanks for all your support. He said he went to the solicitor to take advice on whether he should go to the police or not with my mums message. He said he saw his solicitor at 130, and then texted to say he had a decision to make, then said he's not going to the police. I actually wonder if he would get an appointment with his solicitor so quickly, so I suspect he was bluffing. This has been a massive learning experience for me, I will maybe try harmony, next time, elastomum!!
Thanks again!

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PooPooInMyToes · 15/05/2012 15:15

What did your mums message say that warranted a trip to the police in his eyes? You say she called him a parasite and a conman . . . no law against that!

Sounds to me like he thought mentioning the police would make you desist from asking about the money you are owed!

Manipulative. He's probably lying about the solicitor as well. A manipulative, thieving, liar! What a catch. Well rid!

Cathynclaire · 15/05/2012 15:20

He was called a parasite and a conman because that's the truth!

He may be an officer (I'm guessing) but he's no gentleman!

BalloonSlayer · 15/05/2012 15:25

I can't help wishing I was a fly on the wall at that Solicitor's appointment.

"I need you to tell me whether I should go to the Police."

"Why?"

"A woman text me and called me a conman and a parasite."

"Why did she say that?"

"I borrowed her daughter's credit card for emergencies, and I bought my kids a Nintendo and a bike with it."

"And you paid the money back, straight away, right?"

"Um, no . . . "

"Oh. Ah. OK. Right."

Grin
midwife99 · 15/05/2012 15:39

Could you go to the small claims court for the money? A small fee & they'll order him to pay it back.

oikopolis · 15/05/2012 15:50

LOL such a typical knobber response to being called out. "I'm getting a lawyer! you'll pay for this!!1!" Hmm pull the other one you numpty.

glad he's throwing his toys out of the cot, this means he's probably gearing up to flounce out of your life permanently, with no effort on your part.

pictish · 15/05/2012 20:54

One can only hope so.

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