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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Are Going To Need A Bigger Bus!

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Mouseface · 11/05/2012 11:54

Which is FANTASTIC! Smile

Welcome to the Brave Babes Battle Bus, I'm Mouse and I'm addicted to cheese, but have a pretty nasty relationship with alcohol too, mainly vodka.

This Bus is for anyone and everyone. Drinking or sober, or somewhere in between or just not sure if you're drinking too much........... this is the place to ask and maybe have a chat too.

No pressure, no judging, no cliquey savoury flans (although I'm rather partial to a cheese slice Wink), we're all on The Bus for the same reason; alcohol.

Even if it's not you, and you'd like to talk about someone you know, come and say hi. We won't bite, well, not unless you ask very nicely! Grin

And, if you'd like to see our journey so far, follow THIS LINK and read back through the previous links there.

See you soon Smile xx

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todayiwillnotdrink · 29/05/2012 23:41

Joey, I agree, you sound lovely.

Looking at the bottom of a bottle...but WILL not top up from the wine box in the fridge before sleeping.

I promise to be truthful in the morning.

Lots of prep for interview tonight. SAF, thinking of you with fingers crossed.

todayiwillnotdrink · 29/05/2012 23:45

demented - I have been there (or somewhere very like it) in my dreams. On a practical note I will also have a kindle with wireless for downloading! Oh, and I need a dog. Preferably mine but he will be long gone before I get anywhere close.

Your day will come honey; I know it will.

NonAstemia · 30/05/2012 00:02
swallowedAfly · 30/05/2012 06:47

soma - personally with a cat i would only get a puppy or a dog that had lived with cats successfully. especially with a jack russell - might be coincidence but every jrt i've seen advertised for rescue said not to live with cats so i had assumed they're not good with them as a general rule.

mind you i personally wouldn't get a jrt - i think of them as quite a handful and typically having behaviour problems and being very highly strung. come to think of it they all seemed to say no young children too which would seem to bear that out. my impression is that a lot end up in shelters because they are potentially difficult dogs that need lots of training, stimulation and socialisation as pups but people think of them as little dogs and get them on that misassumption and then struggle with them and end up giving them up to rescue. maybe post on the 'in the doghouse' section of mn? lots of knowledge and experience there Smile

thanks for the good luck's Smile

ma - your house sounds lovely. wishing you strength for getting through time with dh.

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 30/05/2012 07:12

Good luck with the interview Saf,fingers crossed!

Joey well done on last night. I'd have felt the same. It's far easier to just not go out at all! Blush Grin

^Ma* your little cottage sounds idyllic. That visualisation will probably help you to get through the time ahead. You do sound very focused. It's always good to have a plan isn't it?

Mouse, you didn't miss anything important from me! Good news about your sister! Grin Don't get me started on nightmarish sisters... When is the big day? X

Faire, yeah busy as ever here! Trying not to get overwhelmed (but failing a lot of the time). Slept well last night (thanks to no alcohol) so hopefully today will be a better day. I hope you and yours are all well. I hope that family drama has blowed over now x

Where is Sunny and Blankef and Greyhound and Rain these days? Hope all is well.

Have good days everyone

Fairenuff · 30/05/2012 08:27

Hope it goes well today Saf x

SSSM I am staying well out of family dramas for the forseeable.

On the other hand, I am going to spend a week in a cottage by the seaside next week with dh, dcs and all my in laws Shock. No, they are lovely really. MIL is wonderful, laid back and easy to get on with, FIL is kind, gentle and caring. We all get on so well. His sister and her dh are coming too and they have little children so we can help to entertain and look after them so that their parents can have a bit of a break.

I'm really excited, going on Friday straight from work so don't worry about me if I suddenly disappear from the bus. Not sure if I'm going to take laptop or not yet.

Mouse so glad your df stuck to his guns, he will have a lovely relaxed day and be able to give his attention to little Nemo which is it should be on his special day Smile

Love to all x

Greyhound · 30/05/2012 08:30

I'm here! waves at Silly I'm still drinking every night. I am drinking less than normal, but still too much.

skippy84 · 30/05/2012 08:47

Morning everyone. Have been reading and you are all doing so well, I felt very angry last night after seeing my therapist. I know that I have been using alcohol to numb myself to the problems in my relationship. Though I am in no way blaming my partner for my problems, I just felt so angry with him last night and I don't know why? Looking for someone else to blame maybe. Still alcohol free and still feeling good. Have agree with my therapist two alcohol free months and then to review the situation. Just looking for some tips really for dealing with the long weekend. I really ten to use alcohol as a treat after a long week so will need something to avoid feeling deprived

SobaSoma · 30/05/2012 09:08

Mia your evening sounded nice - what was the film? They're the only things I watch on TV (apart from Mad Men) so recommendations are always welcome. Our cat is Madeline and aged 10 and nearly always adorable. I have no idea what she's like around dogs, maybe I could get someone with a dog to visit. Saf I wouldn't have considered a JRT until I met Albert, but they do say love is blind. Won't do anything silly though. And good luck for later!

Ma maybe I'll be your neighbour one day (don't worry not too close) as that's how I imagine my later years might pan out. Have you read a book by Sara Maitland called "Silence"? She's chosen a life like the one you dream about and is maybe a little over the top with her need to be alone but she talks a lot of sense.

Well it's busy as usual here at work so I'll get my head down. Have a good day everyone xx

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obrigada · 30/05/2012 09:53

Wishing you the very best of luck for your interview today SAF:)

NonAstemia · 30/05/2012 10:07

Soba it was an Italian film called The Consequences of Love (Le Conseguenze dell'Amore) and it was excellent. I'm not a huge film fan usually - I find get really involved with the plot and the characters and then there'll be some improbable plot twist or a character will do something that is, well, clearly out of character, and I'm jarred out of my suspension of disbelief. This was great though, beautifully shot and really kept you guessing. Not much dialogue, but you really came to care about the characters. Well, I did, anyway! Grin I joined LoveFilm for their 30day free trial, because I'm learning Italian and wanted to get some Italian films out.

On the topic of dogs again, if Madeline is 10 then I would tread very carefully - she's lived a long dog-free life already and probably isn't going to take very kindly to a canine upstart. Grin I think getting someone with a calm dog to visit is an excellent idea. Have you done much breed research? Obviously every dog has its own unique personality, but dogs have been selectively bred for many years to possess the qualities associated with their breed. Terriers, for instance, tend to have a high prey drive (especially for small mammals!) and are quite willful independent - makes for great, characterful personalities but they're not the most easily trainable dogs. Lurchers also have a high prey drive, as they're bred for hunting. Having said that, cockers aren't supposed to have a very high prey drive as they're supposed to flush and retrieve prey for shooting, not kill it themselves, but Bella certainly has Hmm (although she didn't kill the sparrow fledgling she found in the garden the other day - it was damp but unharmed! Shock). You'll always find atypical personalities in each breed, but they're a good starting point. I can recommend a couple of excellent books about dog behaviour, too if you'd like.

Oh dear - I only popped in to say good morning and it's another epic post that's not even about drinking! Blush

My drinking dilemma of the day is that I'm going to stay with my oldest friend for the night tonight. She's been saying she doesn't want to drink too much because she has to be up early to do the school run. This is going to be my first restrained social occasion. Can I enjoy an evening of moderate drinking and nice food without the need to drink too much??

Hi Greyhound nice to see you!

joey and Silly I'm the same - I find socialising in groups stressful, even when it's enjoyable. I go out occasionally with a group of local mums here, and it's lovely but I couldn't do it very often. I worry that I'll talk too much, drink too much, and that everyone will think I'm an annoying drunk who doesn't shut up! Blush

skippy can you plan something for the weekend that you couldn't do if you were drinking? Like driving somewhere in the evening so you can't drink, or planning a long trip during the day so you have to be up early and not hungover? Driving somewhere for a beautiful sunset walk? Or to a restaurant further away than you'd normally go so you have to drive? If you're interested in wildlife and in the right area, this is the season for nightjars; very wierd birds who fly at dusk and make the most eerie whirring sound. It's very atmospheric! Dusk is so late at the moment that a sunset walk would occupy your whole evening. What do you like to do?

Trexy · 30/05/2012 10:47

Good luck SAF

Trexy · 30/05/2012 10:54

Had a couple of moments last night where the thought "wine" came into my head - it wasn't a physical craving. Just conditioning I think - like Pavlov's Dog. Last night was the first "sober" night I had where my husband was away. My husband sometimes works away for a night or two here or there.

Its not that I didn't drink when he was here, but the evening routine is very different when he's here - we tend to sit down and have dinner together etc whereas when he's not here I will eat dinner with the children earlier and I tend to start drinking earlier too so I would open my first bottle about 4pm when we were "in for the day" and carry on drinking at a slowish rate till 11pm or so. I would often get through 2 bottles. I used to love going up to my bed early, putting the TV on, laptop on lap, wine on bedside table and just lie in bed and sip away.

So whilst I am on Day 9 of sobriety, yesterday, Day 8, was the first day all on my own where I still didn't drink. And I got through it just fine! There were a couple of moments like I say where I felt something was missing, where I felt, "what do I do now" but I just carried on as usual but without the wine! I had a couple of cups of milky instant decaf coffee so I had something to sip on, but apart from that it was okay. I wonder how I would have done if I hadn't had Naltrexone? Who knows. I take my Naltrexone in the morning and I assume it lasts all day.

Anyway that's all from me. Looks like the "drought" will be broken on Friday night instead of Saturday as I have a birthday dinner to go to. Will obviously report back on Saturday morning with how much I drank and how it "felt".

NonAstemia · 30/05/2012 10:55

Thinking of you saf.

soba hope that didn't sound too preachy about dogs and as though I think I'm some kind of authority on the subject - I really don't!

chasingtail · 30/05/2012 11:22

Mia had exactly the same dilema when I went away with my besty for her 40th. Tied my self up in knots worrying about whether to abstain / get plastered / have just a couple. As it turned out I had one glass of bubbles & was totally not bothered about drinking any more. Still managed to laugh til I cried & talked most of the night away, but the great thing is when I woke up I could remember it all & didn't feel like shite!

Am sure you will be fine, esp if your friend isn't that bothered about drinking either.

NonAstemia · 30/05/2012 14:48

Thanks chasing Smile I shall report back, hopefully sans hangover, tomorrow!

NonAstemia · 30/05/2012 15:01

I just packed my slippers - rock and roll!! Grin That should be a sign to me that my hard-living days are over, really, shouldn't it? If ever I needed proof that middle age is upon me, it's that. Hmm Grin

Here and here are the books I was thinking of for soma and all the other doggy Babes. The second one is quite heavy going (lots of stuff about operant conditioning etc.) in places but well worth the effort. The first is just plain fascinating, especially the stuff on calming signals.

Right I'm off. Hope you're all enjoying the sober sunshine.

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Mouseface · 30/05/2012 15:33

Afternoon, tis me, OlympicMouse Grin

We've been to town to watch the Olympic torch going through town. It was really emotional actually, I had a tear or two in my eyes. Nemo was mor interested in the Met's motorbike's! It was really good seeing the roads lined with people. The pavements were 5 deep in some places. Smile

Then we went into town, did a bit of shopping and then off for a swim. Nemo is now flat out on the floor in the middle of his train track, I've put the picture on my profile.

Ma - can I have my eyes back please? Grin You know my thoughts and I know yours. I admire you Ma, I really do. You are a strong woman. A women who is willing to sacrifice her own wants and needs for the sake of others. Your home sounds wonderful. I so hope that one day you'll get it. Be in it, and finally live.

I'm guessing you don't want to stop drinking just now, which of course is your choice but promise me one thing please? That you'll stay in the side-car and not just vanish? One thing I've always seen in you is spirit Ma. I love that about you and without that, you wouldn't have that dream, your dream. It sounds lovely. xx

Mia - hope you have a nice time Smile xx

Thurso - thank you. I feel very positive and in control just now (and long may it last). I really like how I feel actually. Glad work is slowing for you, give you a chance to slow down and just be yourself Smile xx

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Fairenuff · 30/05/2012 16:26

< adds 'pack slippers' to the 'to do' list . . . >

Fairenuff · 30/05/2012 16:28

Awww Mouse what a little cutie Smile

swallowedAfly · 30/05/2012 17:01

evening-ish all Smile

i think it went well. bit hard to say though. certainly a strange interview - you're just getting into the academic and personal skills kind of questioning then get curve balled with one asking what that has happened to you in your life was the MOST difficult to deal with. also stuff on what emotions you find hard to express and such. funny watching their faces turn from academic interviewer expression to concerned, counsellor face Grin i reckon i sounded convincingly aware of the demands and ready to meet them and i suspect that was the main thing they were assessing other than generally getting a feel of your suitability. we shall see!

thanks for well wishes.

hope everyone had a good day x

SobaSoma · 30/05/2012 18:30

Mia hope you have a lovely evening, whether you have no drinks, some drinks or loads of drinks! And thanks for the book info, you're not being preachy at all and I know we have to make the right decision about what dawg to get.

Glad things went well Saf and hope everyone else enjoyed their day. DD off to Guides in a minute, think I'll be crashing straight out on the sofa. The antabuse tiredness is still quite marked but oh so worth it!

dementedma · 30/05/2012 19:31

happy birthday to..... THURSO!!!
Hope you have a peaceful evening my friend
mouse thank you. i don't feel strong, i feel weak but I'm going nowhere as far as this bus goes. it is my salvation!