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New FWB relationship - is this normal? Please help!

123 replies

LittleIllusionMachine · 08/05/2012 13:33

Around 2 months ago I met someone at the gym and sparked up a FWB-type relationship. We are both quite newly single and happy with the set up. We have been talking on the phone/IM quite a lot and managed to meet up twice so far.

There are just a couple of things which are ringing potential alarm bells in my head. It's quite possibly nothing to be worried about, just something I'm not used to, but I'm slightly concerned and looking for advice.

A bit about him...he is a bodybuilder and takes it all quite seriously; he goes to the gym every day and uses those protein drinks to build him up. He told me last night that he was doing weights that were twice my body weight yesterday! I've asked him if he takes steroids and he said no (I'm not so sure tbh). I know he occasionally takes weed/cocaine although that is very common where we live with people of our age group. He is really into cage fighting (watching, not participating AFAIK). We get on well and he seems like a nice guy.

We have kept some distance in that I don't know much about him and vice versa; neither of us wants to get emotionally attached. One of the only things I know other than the superficial is that his Mum was a victim of DV and he beat the bloke up.

The thing concerning me is more related to the sexual side of our relationship. Sorry if the following is TMI!

The first time we slept together was OK, he was very giving and I didn't really have a chance to return the favour. I spoke to him about it afterwards and he said that he was happy and liked to be in control.

Last night was good, although again he was very very dominating (more so this time). Again, I didn't have the chance to reciprocate. He has told me that this doesn't bother him at all, that he likes it and wants to be the one doing all the work. That's fine I suppose, it just feels strange to be so inactive and just taking it IYSWIM? I know I shouldn't really be complaining about being with someone who likes to give so much, it's just something that is very new to me. Also, last night at various points he had his hands around my neck, and when we were actually having sex he was very rough and seemed to be doing it as hard as possible. I noticed that when he was doing this he was really really staring at my face (barely blinking!) and looked really quite angry. I smiled at him and he did smile back...maybe just sex face?

I don't know. I do enjoy it, and I don't know if I'm just nervous as it's not something I've come across before. I'm just quite aware that I don't REALLY know him, and that he is already comfortable after meeting twice in completely dominating me and putting his hands around my neck. He is clearly much bigger and stronger than me, and although right now I don't feel like he would do anything bad, I'm worried it could escalate. And if it did there wouldn't be much I could do about it. With his current lifestyle and potential steroid taking I know he has a lot of testosterone floating around him right now and the potential for violence. Should I be concerned or just be happy to enjoy it as it is for now?

Can anyone advise?

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imogengladheart · 09/05/2012 18:20

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AnyFucker · 09/05/2012 18:29

it says a lot about a man if you have to tell him you are another man's property to get him to feel less rejected and leave you alone, and I wouldn't recommend it as a rule

although I would make an exception in this case

imogengladheart · 09/05/2012 18:35

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BertieBotts · 09/05/2012 18:41

Re counselling, try elsewhere than the NHS - you might find an organisation locally which does free or reduced cost sessions if you are unable to pay. Or perhaps cancel the gym membership to pay for it (for now)? If you google "psychosexual counselling" or "abuse counselling" and your area, you might find something.

Another option could be the freedom programme or WA Pattern changing course - again if they run in your area. While they are more about healthy relationships in general than focusing on the sex side of things, it's all related.

If nothing else perhaps try phoning rape crisis or looking on their website and seeing if they know of anything local to you? I agree NHS counselling provision isn't great, it's a shame really.

AnyFucker · 09/05/2012 18:43

I know, and I agree, imogen

LumpyLatimer · 09/05/2012 19:08

Christ.

Please put a stop to this. PLEASE.

My sister has just been through an appalling time with a controlling emotionally abusive man (not physically violent but I put them all in the same category) and I have just learned that she took an overdose. She's fine now, but could not have been.

It's not just the rough sex that's bothering me it's that he's controlling and already has you manipulated enough to doubt your own mind. Don't let him into your life. There is too much at stake.

All those relationships you read about - that end with violence, or suicide attempts, or ruined lives?

They all start somewhere. And that somewhere probably, very often, looks just like this.

Take care.

JustFab · 09/05/2012 19:21

I think saying you have got back with an ex is a really stupid thing to say and could rile him up good and proper.

Just text him and say you don't want to see him again and then block and delete his number.

This man could kill you or at the very least fuck you up so much you willnever get your head straight to be able to be with a man who treats you with kindness and respect.

msshapelybottom · 09/05/2012 19:24

FWIW, 130kg lifting for a bloke isn't that much...I am a non steroid taking woman weighing 64kg and I can deadlift almost 1.5 times my own bodyweight. I take the occasional protein drink when I remember but other than that it's all my own strength at work! I think it's a huge leap to assume this guy's taking juice...the coke, however, would be a no-go for me.

As far as the sex stuff goes, if you're not happy with what is happening between you just walk away...a FWB should be mutually enjoyable surely? If it's not then don't waste any more time with him!

msshapelybottom · 09/05/2012 19:27

oops, sorry OP, thread has moved on!

Stay away from men for the time being...you need to spend some time with yourself for a while, until you are in a place where the smallest thing which makes you uncomfortable is where you draw the line.

imogengladheart · 09/05/2012 19:38

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PooPooInMyToes · 09/05/2012 19:42

He does keep going on about not wearing a condom though. I've refused to do anything without one so far, but I think he is expecting me to crack on that tbh.

Blimey! Lack of respect or what!

sandyboots · 09/05/2012 19:49

been lurking - OP you don't have to say you don't want him or that you've met someone else. You don't have to give him an explanation at all. If you do want to, just say you've decided to take some time on your own and to focus on dc or that you've decided FWB is not for you.
'I'd say all the best for the future, bye' or something like that and then just totally blank him thereafter.

It's great that you posted on here and are starting to see that you no longer have to stand for this sort of treatment from men. Agree with the others re counselling/self help books etc, take some time out to heal

all the best
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sadanduseless · 09/05/2012 20:28

Hi LIM - apparently, certain men can spot a vulnerable woman from a mile away!

I agree with AF that he is grooming you; please don't let this happen and certainly don't have sex without a condom. You don't know his sexual history at all.

Hopefully, you will find your perfect partner one day. You are worthy of someone better!

Good luck and best wishes, x

PooPooInMyToes · 09/05/2012 21:07

I agree that you don't need to give him a reason.

LittleIllusionMachine · 09/05/2012 22:55

Thank you everyone. I'll look into the support organisations, I know I need some kind of help. I'm actually ashamed to admit... I have posted in feminism and am fairly active in campaigning against VAW and sexual violence after what has happened to me. I know all this stuff! Why aren't I putting it into practice?!

I saw him at the gym tonight. Luckily I was in there much later than I usually am, so he was leaving as I arrived. I didn't even talk to him, just said hello. He said he would text me and left. I've turned my phone off. Tomorrow is the day I'm likely to see him in there properly and I know he will come and talk to me.

I feel like banging my head against a brick wall. I know what I have to do, but there is this constant little voice which just won't go away. It feels like I'm tied to him in some way, it upsets me to think of not seeing him again. I just need to ignore that voice and get over it.

Also, can I say that another poster has PM'ed me. I feel that it could be predatory. Looking at his MN posting history, he has only posted on threads about sex, and his advice was completely the opposite to everyone else's. He even told me that he was "giving" too. I have no idea about what can I do about that?

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PooPooInMyToes · 09/05/2012 22:57

! What did he mean by giving?!

I would report it to hq and see what they say.

Mumsyblouse · 09/05/2012 23:06

Report that poster who PM'd you.

It's ok to admit you feel attracted/slighly tied to someone, not ok to leave yourself incredibly vulnerable, this man has too many red flags to ignore. Seriously, your safety is at risk.

I would avoid getting into a discussion with him tomorrow, I would text. And please don't go for a coffee or back to yours as you feel sorry for him, really don't do that.

TheHappyHissy · 09/05/2012 23:07

Report the fuck out of the PMer. Do it. please.

Can you change times, change gyms? You need to get away from him physically for a while until you can wean off the 'draw'

That draw is the harm, the danger. please see this and dig deep and get away from it.

We're with you every step of the way here love.

BIWItheBold · 09/05/2012 23:13

Name and shame. Predatory PMing like that is seriously creepy, and I think other MNetters need to be warned.

Charbon · 09/05/2012 23:23

Yes do report the PM although I'm not sure how you do that.

Just stay away from him and end it by text. Acknowledge that you haven't yet got the strength to see him and not weaken, so take the temptation away.

sadanduseless · 09/05/2012 23:28

LIM - Am quite worried about you! I repeat that I think that he is trying to "groom" you. You already know a bit about him (bodybuilding, drugs, porn etc...) and that he wants sex without condom use.

Wonder if he visits prostitutes who indulge him in his strangulation fantasy but refuse to have unprotected sex?

How much do you know about him? Where does he work, live, etc...? Run for the hills, OP!

sadanduseless · 09/05/2012 23:32

... and make sure that you report PM to HQ!!! Best wishes

mirry2 · 09/05/2012 23:34

You don't need a safe word. You need to tell him - do not touch my neck

AnyFucker · 09/05/2012 23:35

LIM, name and shame the creepy guy

shall we start guessing who it is ?

look, just blank the BodyBuilder guy...text him in the morning you no longer want a relationship, then turn off your phone and stay away from the gym

this isn't a game

if you can't trust yourself, stay away from him

AnyFucker · 09/05/2012 23:39

I am so glad you have posted, OP, but that predatory pm simply underlines what a dangerous position you are sleep walking into

from what you have posted here, some creepy fucker has felt entitled to invade your inbox

this isn't a game

are you getting it yet ?

stop worrying you will get drawn in when you attend the gym tomorrow

just don't attend the gym, text him it is over

then go no-contact and lie low for a while

do not go to places he will be

< ponders some more ways to say the same thing >

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