The Brave Babes Battle Bus - On Their Way To............... Amarillo?

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.............. sorry, ran out of ideas tonight!

Hello, tis me, Mouse and I have a very abusive relationship with alcohol, vodka in particular.

Welcome to the Battle Bus, full of totally Brave Babes all on their own personal journey to sobriety. Some are there, some are still on their way and some aren't quite ready yet but stay on the Bus for a good old natter

Wherever you are in your quest to get back control of your drinking, we've all been there too so you're not alone, not by a long shot.

Come take a seat and say hello.

If you'd like to know the history behind this amazing journey, you can follow the links back HERE

See you soon x

Spiders I always wake up fearing, seriously! I'm 39 (40 in August) and am starting to realise that the stuff I'm doing to my body is having consequences, it's pretty scary!

Have you cut down / not drunk recently? Are you an every-day-er?

Just poured the last glass

I cut down as I wanted to obliterate my day?

Does that make sense?

I left an abusive relationship, had drunk frequently to deal with living with that, then didn't drink at all for about 3 months, got comfy living without him, then discovered the super wonderful life of drinking on my own.

I stopped because i was worried how i would end up. Would i be like this forever? I was always looking forward to the children being asleep so that i could open a bottle.

Then i went off it, and now I'm here

Aw, Mumin But you wouldn't be here if it was the 'joys of drinking alone' would you? And nor would I, and nor would tons of people. It's a false friend, that much I do know.
Well bloody done you on getting out of the relationship. As I said I'm not a regular poster here (and am a drinker at the moment too) so can't give you all the advice, but keep posting here, the people here are fantastic
Do you know I did 3 months sober after New Year too, and didn't you feel fantastic? I know I did. Which is why I wonder why I'm drinking again.... but I am...

38 Curious - huge binger - late 80's all the 90's big, fat class A lover, smoker (not gently - 30 a day at lest for the last 20 years), leavened off, had children, calmed it for five years.

ALL my friends are creatives who still indulge, we ALL DO IT, we do it. We drink, we smoke, we suck it up - WE DO IT.

Crap & Rubbish.

I am 39 Spiders, so I have 1 year of wisdom on you

And yes all my friends are boozers too, it doesn't help, does it?

It doesn't Curious

My biggest boozer mate was down just last weekend, and told me ... she's pregnant!!!!! At 39 (just, ie. few months off 40! and first baby!), it's thrown the cat among the pigeons

We had the best weekend, no booze, lots of giggles, lunch out bla bla. She e-mailed me the next week to say how shocked she'd been to realise she'd had such a laugh without booze!

Anyhoo, I am off to bed. Keep posting Spiders and Mumin. If you will, I will . Will let you know how my doc's appointment goes on Monday if you like...

Sleep tight (take some water to bed with you) xxx

'curious' the 'wineathome' introduction was like an epiphany for me!

i couldnt' believe that you could just walk into tesco, asda, or whatever and just buy a bottle so easily.

Now i just love it.
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for me ?... i just struggle with the 'what harm can it do'?

i;vec= gotten away iwth it until now; what's the worse that can happen. i have no social life what so ever. i never, ever go out. i go to work, i collect the children, i come home, have fun with them (a new concept in our lives since leaving ex), tea, bath, book, bed. And then i am on my own. No other single friends. All my friends are great, but busy with their lives.

So once the children are asleep, i love drinking wine. So what.

So nothing - nothing.

If you can keep it up.

Found you ! Bloomin iPhone doesn't like links.

White, without please, if anyone is sticking the bus kettle on for a morning brew!

Seems like the bus was quite busy through the night......

Nothing I can say without sounding trite, but please stay with us all you new lovely Babes. We are all in it together. Xx

Hello Babes

On the subject of giving up drinking then starting again - surely it's better to do that than just carry on drinking?

I asked the addiction centre people what percentage of people stayed off whatever substance they were addicted to. They bluntly said 'It depends how long you are measuring for.' So it seems that most people can last a month off, a lot of people can manage three months off. Approximately 50% of alcoholics can manage a year off after the detox and Antabuse.

So my troubled and troubling relationship with alcohol is going to last my entire life. That's the reality of it. It's all about managing it going forward.

Day 2 - unfortunately have the sweats - which is horribly unpleasant

morning

sunlit - wasn't meant to be a smack on the arse or upset you - it's just that this place needs to be safe for everyone EVEN the person who is feeling angry and says something others might not like. it can be an emotional ride giving up drinking and dealing with the issues that come with it so we need to be pretty tolerant of people's emotion.

rightly or wrongly (and it works both ways - people on either side of the fence could think the others are wrong) this thread supports people who are tackling their drinking regardless of what stage of that they're at or what goals they're working towards or whether their methods would work for them. does that make sense? that's how this bus works really - in that it doesn't get caught up in contentious stuff and disagreements about aa or hypnosis or religion or whatever so it can be safe for all - and it needs to be for all.

incidentally babes we haven't had anyone tell us how paul mckenna saved their life recently

tbh i found reading this new thread pretty hard this morning and wondered if i wouldn't be better off backing away from the bus. the whole what's wrong with drinking, yum codeine etc thing feels... well kind of unhelpful stuff for a roomful of people that include alcoholics and addicts whose goal is to avoid substances. but deep breaths and hoping it's just a bump in the road rather than a crater fallen into.

day 18 here. grey and rainy - where is my sunshine pix????

yeah. my post is not about having a go at people it's about saying how i feel - and i personally find it quite triggering to read lots of pro drinking pro drugs stuff when i'm giving those things up and need to hold onto my resolution to do so. but obviously if that's just me then it's my problem and i need to hand my ticket in and get out of the way.

Morning saf . I have tried all the approaches - AA (a bit), hypnotism (but not Paul McKenna), controlled drinking (that was never very controlled), Allen Carr's Easyway book etc, and of course posting and reading on here for the best part of 2 years. I wouldn't knock any of them. It's difficult for me to say that any one of them was what got me sorted, it's been more of a cumulative effect.

Ah yeah! sorry about that - I spoke to himself, and he said theres a long delivery time for ordered sunshine, but he did promise they are right out of snowstorms for this region...

Came downstairs to post, and as I typed, a complete stream of gibberish came out - more so than usual, and no matter what I typed, it was just letter strings. I felt a bit panicky - was I still drunk? But I didn't drink last night - leastways - I don't remember doing so? Then I realised - my ds1 (14) had sneaked down in the night and changed all my keyboard letters around - wee fecker :o Have just dragged him out of bed to move em back!

Slept really well, and woke up, rather than regaining consciousness. I dreamt that I was drinking though - Go figure!

How are you this morning SAF ?

Oh - and morning venus and everyone!

hopefully don't let the statistics deter you or get you down. In addition to the programme you're on, you also have the support of people on here. Many people don't have any real life or vistual support - they try to do it on their own, either because they have no-one who can support them, or live in a community where everyone else has an alcohol problem, or they want to keep it all a big secret and not tell people.

And on the subject of secrets and lies... well done spider for breaking that taboo and for posting in your real name. So what's your plan for today? Aiming to have a Saturday off the booze?

I read many of last night's posts as being pretty much laced with sarcasm, rather than being defiantely pro-drinking, and I can well remember the massive relief of exchanging 'drinking on the train' stories with isindie and JWN. I was at last able to share my shameful drunken habits with people who understood, and I do remember thinking (and probably posting) that in a previous part of my life, I'd have loved to have shared a drunken train journey with these funny, sassy women. However, I do understand what scoundrel felt, and what you've posted this morning saf. It is difficult to judge how things come across over the internet, and this does need to be a safe place for all of us. And it is. And it will be.

Morning pix and about your keyboard.

morning i'm good thanks. well! my dad has just been here to bring my dog home who decided to take herself for a stroll up the road, across the playing fields, through two farmers fields and to my mum and dad's house where she promptly demanded banana chips from the drawer my mum keeps them in for her!

they were going to let her stay whilst they had breakfast but then discovered she stinks to high heaven of something grotesque she's obviously rolled in on her travels so they promptly brought her back here.

i didn't even know she'd gotten out.

is it bad i feel quite proud of her for being such a clever dog? not loving the fact i'm going to have to start my weekend by showering a stinking labrador though she's currently shut in the back passage having her breakfast (nice reward for her mayhem causing) whilst i build up the stamina to bathe her.

i am ok thanks pix other than dog malarchy though a hankering for codeine is somewhat woken in me twat me that i am. i'm another who'd take anything a break from reality. not impressed with the lack of sunshine though.

venus - yeah - i can't criticise anyone's approach. i went round and round in circles on this bus for what? gotta be a year and a half or something and it took that wrestling match for me to finally give in and admit i didn't have any control over it even if i wasn't losing my son or driving drunk or any other visible disastrous effects that would shove it in my face hard enough that i was an alcoholic. i'm grateful for the old timers (ha!) patience with me.

mind you at least i wont' have to take her for a walk this morning!

saf I just read your post as DD rather than dog, which made perfect sense up until the part where she rolled in something grotesque...

my cerebrally challenged hound to give you a smile this grey morning.

at Joey with her left-leaning breadmaker and Pix's misbehaving keyboard.

SAF - I can't tell you how much I agree with everything you said this morning (07.50 post) and last night. It's a tricky, sometimes uncomfortable, balance on here. No-one should be kicked off the bus and sometimes some of us need to check ourselves and wonder whether we are veering into group normalising (or whatever you call it).

How you doing Astemia?