Welcome to the Turning Tavern II: Now in 3D

[Gay40]

Welcome!

It's about people falling in love regardless of gender. True, labelling must stop. The campaign starts here!

Likea - love the way you're so analytical.

polly, relieved that you ve reappeared, was worried that some family drama or cancellation from wiq made you quiet. I wouldn't worry about looking perfect, it really isn't a date is it, treat it as testing the waters/chat and that will help you to be laid-back.
Loveis a bit of sarcasm per chance?

Try not to dribble on her, is my advice (sod the article)

polly does your wiq read the Guardian? prob not!
also, if she couldn't stand your look she wouldn't be friendly but attraction is much more about personalities and the chemistry, it's not about the looks (once they think you look ok). You know she could be with the most beautiful perfect woman and not fancy her, it's either there or not. I.e. don't try too hard.

She must like the look of you to some degree, even as friends . There's so much more to chemistry than looks thank fuck, in my case

G40 with your string of female admirers past and present i find it hard to believe, you can't be as plain as you make it sound (or you are a perfectionist)

G, out of interest, do men ever make passes at you? if they don't know that you in r-ship? just wonder whether men can usually sense that a woman is gay.

Charles I can see very well what you mean. I still don't know how can it work unless their partner is happy with sexless marriage. Sexual side will be crap or dwindle quickly. Not sustainable, is it, unless both are gay and in open marriage for the sake of looking conventional or 'normal'.

I know that a certain type of gold digging lesbians are known to use sugar daddies who support them (I mean one usually) while they have a proper love r-ships with women, and the man is usually married, so from that point of view it's possible to lead parallel lives for a lifestule, but hell you have to unscrupulous and very thick skinned sexually.

I understand what you mean Charles :)

1 hour to go now before Polly meets her WIQ :)

Hair done. Face done (with a trowel). Just got to get dressed and try to stop sweating

There will be no dribbling!

Likea I'm with you, I think our Gay is probably a bit of a stunna on the quiet.

I understood you too, Charles. It didn't sound crass.

Likea - I hold no interest to men in the slightest They neither look nor ask.

I'm no stunna...that I can honestly assure you. Even my own mother says I have a nice personality

am off now. Eeeek.

Just checking in to wish polly luck

I think personality can change the way someone looks. They could be stunning on paper but be such a bitch that they look ugly, or more on the plain side but really lovely and it shines through making them look beautiful.

at Gay - 'A lot of tension is held in the arse', haha!

Watched Lip Service last night, and read that guardian article today, so I am well up to date with lezzie culture . I found the article horrifically predatory! regardless of the genders involved. Some of the comments underneath on the FB version were... worrying. Oh well.

Managed to see off a creepy bloke trying to chat me up at a singing workshop by saying hastily, 'Errm yes, my girlfriend likes sculpture, I'll tell her'. (He said I had hypnotic eyes ) Worked like a charm and he took several steps backwards

polly, good luck tonight! Report back as we will all be eating our knuckles until you do.

Likea - wasn't being sarcastic. Likea da way you come up with all possible scenarios.

Charles - understood, didn't sound crass.

Polly - go girl go!

I haven't watched Lip Service 2 yet. I enjoyed the first series, apart from Frankie's strap-on technique which I thought left a lot to be desired.

Strap-on technique?! Is there a how-to guide somewhere?

Loveis well that's habit.
Charles it is changing though, big time. I don;t think there's going back to old times. People can't see the point living in a sexless marriage (unless it's agreed that it's open, which is not that often) because there opportunities like never before, hence the divorce rate is up, and also one side wouldn't put up anymore as financially you can usually survive on your own (even with a child) as many women work now. THere is less and less dependency on a partner and very good protection for women on divorce so why on earth wpuld they put up and shut up (and men ditto). I think thre is a very strong mentality that life is too short nowadays (a bit orrational but true) and people don't get involved when too young but then they try to pair up with someone who they do have feelings for, or stay single. There is no obvious disapproval nowadays for not beingn conventional in terms of family life etc (well maybe parts of Surrey are a trowback ).

can i venture a question, G40? ahem..how much strap-ons are really part of a routine for gay women? do many do without it, or is it seen as basic?

*irrational