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Would you continue seeing a guy if he had no ....

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ChickenSkin · 10/04/2012 12:39

Willy? Say you really, really liked him and could imagine a future together, everything else was perfect apart from this one problem. Would you continue?

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Houseofplain · 10/04/2012 14:58

I think that depends on if you are done having kids or not, rather than a superficial thing.

If you didn't want anymore kids, I don't see why not. But if you did, well it's a no brainer. If the worst happened and we got divorced I wouldn't date a man who wanted kids, I can't have nor want anymore. For example.

NarkedPuffin · 10/04/2012 15:25

No penis wouldn't necessarily mean no children if the testicles were ok. It would mean needles, but ivf would be possible.

ErikNorseman · 10/04/2012 15:26

A man who had a willy accident would still produce sperm though, so AI would be relatively simple and I'm sure the NHS would fund it. I think the issue is more about sex than babies.

Houseofplain · 10/04/2012 15:33

Well generally speaking I'd imagine if there had been such a trauma to the genitals to mean no penis. Or a birth defect. Then the chances of working testes would be slim to none. They are all pretty closely linked. Hypothetically of course.

ElusiveCamel · 10/04/2012 15:35

But houseofpain so what if it was 'no nastier' than any of the other comments. You are the one having a go at people for being nasty.

Anyway, it explains absolutely nothing whatsoever. There are millions of vile people with partners, there are millions of lovely single people. There is no correlation at all. Judge what people say, by all means, but throwing in a 'women are single because there's something horrible about them' is just BS.

NickL · 10/04/2012 15:38

If the old man has a tiny old man the best thing is to get all uptight about it. Wink

Houseofplain · 10/04/2012 15:41

That's not what I said is it elusive camel. So give it a rest.

puds11 · 10/04/2012 15:43

Teeheehee NickL

ameliagrey · 10/04/2012 16:04

You must be bored today Chickenskin!

The thing is, this question is hypothetical.

If a man was born with no penis he'd be transgender and have the option of an operation.

If he'd had an accident then they would operate and try to make corect it all.

If he was in either situation, it's unlikely that he would want to date women until it was sorted out.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 10/04/2012 16:15

I've just had a short think about this, and if, as you say in the OP, "you really, really liked him and could imagine a future together, everything else was perfect", then I think that yes, I would continue.

Lots of other fun sex things to do, and the absence of a penis would even remove any unfortunate, societally-influenced, overtones of domination and submission in PIV sex in this porn-soaked society.

HepHep · 10/04/2012 17:54

amelia, being born with no penis doesn't automatically make someone transgender. That sort of person would be a biological male born but just one without a penis due to developmental abnormality.

Or possibly the word you're looking for in that case would be intersex, often babies can be born with BOTH types of genitals and the doctors have to work out what to do and make a decision about what gender to 'give' the child. Sometimes they mess up and cause a lot of heartache when the child is raised as one gender but emotionally feels closer to the other, which can cause conflict later in life if they don't tell the child what happened at birth and hide it from them.

Some people are comfortable being born intersex and staying relatively androgynous, identifying with both genders without feeling the need to pick one. I knew one such person, I saw her as an ordinary young teen girl but later discovered she was 'both' for want of a better word, she was on the channel 4 doc 'Intersex' and that's how I found out. A really remarkable person who accepted both of her dual genders.

But transgender generally means being born with one of the other and then later in life, sometimes as a child, teen or adult, choosing to transition the other way. Obvious it is a grey area as intersex and trans people get lumped together, for good reason because the issues are similar, but they not the same.

Just thought I'd clear up that point. :)

larrygrylls · 10/04/2012 18:02

"It actually made me depressed tho as i couldnt be with someone i felt i might have potential future with as i wasnt sexually satisfied. I am not superficial."

Sorry, Haribo, but that is a contradictory statement. Yep, you are superficial. It is just that no one likes to think of themselves as shallow, and in fact the correlation is almost inverse, the shallower someone is, the deeper they believe themselves to be.

A deep person makes a connection on a human level and can always find a work around in the sex department (should they need to), male or female. How do you think women cope with paraplegics?

mrscynical · 10/04/2012 18:23

I have had two relationships where penetrative sex was not possible (medical) and both guys were fantastic in bed - and some other places as well.

A bit role-play, kink and the fact that they both knew exactly where the pleasure places are on a woman made them both brilliant lovers.

In fact the thought of a bit of tit touching, followed by a quick pussy fumble before the insertion of a cock going back and forwards for ten minutes (if you're lucky) makes me feel ill. Never again.

The mind is the key, not the cock.

NickL · 10/04/2012 18:53

Julius Caesar, famously, had a weeny, weedy, winky.

amanspointofview · 10/04/2012 19:00

It is not always great to be VVVWE?..at over eleven inches and thicker than a wrist I have never had deep vaginal sex?.or anal and as for deep-throat it cannot physical happen. I have lost many a GF because of this even though at the beginning they were pretty impressed. There is no penis reduction surgery like for oversized Bobbies?it is a curse?and FYIF I am Northern European.

puds11 · 10/04/2012 19:11

in roman times, it was seen as a sign of high breed to have a small penis

feedbackforfree · 10/04/2012 21:59

I think I was married to Julius Caesar......

McFluffster · 10/04/2012 22:23

Strangely enough I was thinking about this the other day. Even if my husband's willy fell off I would still love him and still want to be with him.

If I was single and met a guy with no willy I would probably not stick around because as a rule, I like willies and if I'd just met him I wouldn't love him enough to give up piv sex.

I met a small one once, frustrating experience for all concerned. I never mentioned it to him or anyone else until now though as I didn't want to upset the guy. Wasn't his fault obviously but it wouldn't have worked out.

I don't see it as shallow, it's not the same as, say, stretchmarks because they don't impede your physical ability to have sexual intercourse. An obvious comparison would be a female with no vagina.

Rosmarin · 10/04/2012 23:05

Thank Goodness for this thread! Some of you have had me giggling away here! A bit of comedy relief, innit. That, and the lovely feeling when you know someone else has had a similarly traumatic experience (thank you Ilovedaintynuts). Facing a bit of a small-willy crisis myself at the moment. Not my willy, obviously. Haven't got one.

I feel like I'm playing Russian Willy Roulette when I start dating someone new.

DadIsSad · 10/04/2012 23:22

I'm just wondering how many of the blokes reading this have unzipped to compare size with their thumb Wink

ToscanaBambina · 10/04/2012 23:47

Did you Dad? And was it a favourable comparison or not? Wink

DadIsSad · 10/04/2012 23:54

I thought about it, then remembered that's one thing I don't actually have issues with (not boasting, just boringly normal) - though next time the opportunity arises I'm curious just how small a thumb is relative...

The thing is, from my understanding of male anatomy (not that I go round studying such things on other men I hasten to add ;) ) the flaccid size is a poor indicator of what you lot are actually interested in.

SkinnyVanillaLatte · 11/04/2012 07:51

....Or not that bothered ny,as the case may be,DadIsSad!

The ability and willingness to make a nice cup of coffee goes a long way, in my book!

SkinnyVanillaLatte · 11/04/2012 07:51

by not ny.Duh!

GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 11/04/2012 10:44

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