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DH's "daughter" from brief fling appears on doorstep 29 years later

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gusting · 01/03/2012 12:34

My DH, who is 55 now, had a fling with a girl when he was in his 20s. It was very brief, and after it ended she said she was pregnant. Some time later my DH remembers someone coming to his parents house asking for child support for the child, but he had never seen the girl again or heard from her, and so was not prepared to entertain any suggestion of paying child support.

Anyway, last year, my DH received an email (he has a website , so that will be how she tracked him down) from a woman claiming to be my DH's daughter, and asking him to get in touch.

My DH, who is computer illiterate anyway (I deal with all his emails!) was fairly flabbergasted, to say the least, and his reaction was simply to ignore the email. He said he would think about how to respond, but basically in true male fashion filed it to the back of his head. His dad was very ill at the time and has subsequently died, so he had plenty else to think about to be honest, and we have a 2 year old DS (I am 39, by the way!).

Anyway, last night we had people round, and the doorbell rang. I was on the phone so my DH went to answer the door. I recognised the woman straight away as I had looked her up on facebook! It was this "daughter", who introduced herself. My DH was completely dumbstruck- apart from the fact we had people in the house, which was a godsend, or he would have had to ask her in, my DH is completely inept in difficult situations like that.

He told her that it was not a good time, and she asked if she could have 20 minutes of his time to "talk" to her, sometime before she left the area (she was here on holiday) tomorrow evening. He took her number, but because he was so taken aback by the whole scenario, he failed to save it in his phone.

He and I discussed things later, and he is very reluctant to speak to her. He does not want to have a relationship with her (assuming that she is indeed his daughter, which is a strong possibility as she looks a bit like him) and just wants to bury his head. He is annoyed that she just appeared at the house without warning. He says he feels nothing towards her, so doesn't think it appropiate to risk unsettling us all and causing his family possible upset by dragging up the past now.

I do see where he is coming from, and my primary goal is to protect my nice happy family unit from any upset, of course. But part of me thinks that the right thing to do by her would be for him to at least talk to her. After all, it's not her fault she was the result of a quick fling, and she has a right to find out about her dad (if he is her dad) and to get to know him. I keep thinking how curious I would be in her situation and how upset I would be if my dad refused to have anything to do with me.

I know I can convince him to talk to her if I really try- he says he will do it for me, if I want him to. But it could turn out to be a whole can of worms opened, and the effect on our family could be very negative.

Anyone got any views??

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LeBOF · 01/03/2012 21:12

That's good then.

enjoyingscience · 01/03/2012 21:15

Good for him, and for you for encouraging him. I hope their first proper meeting goes OK.

I get a bit sensitive about this sort of thing as I have never met by biological father, even though he knows where I am and that I have a son (he's married, and was when I was conceived). I can imagine what the poor girl is going through all too well.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 01/03/2012 21:17

Good. I hope it goes well for everyone.

fabwoman · 01/03/2012 21:25

Why did he need your help? Why do you need to say "with your help"?

This all sounds awful.

noddyholder · 01/03/2012 21:28

Well that is progress but I do think you both need to work on not making her feel like you are doing her a favour because that is what comes across in your posts. Good luck with it all. Put yourself in her shoes

solidgoldbrass · 01/03/2012 21:36

Different viewpoint here: I was adopted as a baby and have never tried to find my birth parents. If I ever did (which is not that likely, I'm not far off 50 now so they might be dead anyway) I would be doing so in the full knowledge that they have every right not to want contact. And I wouldn't turn up unexpected on someone's doorstep and just assume that they would be pleased to see me. Why should they be? We are strangers to each other.

Swimminglikeaduck · 01/03/2012 21:40

good progress, well done for (finally)taking the bull by the horns. I really hope it all works out well. for all of you.

noddyholder · 01/03/2012 21:55

sgb she wasn't adopted though

CuriousMama · 01/03/2012 22:03

Good. I bet you feel better now too?

solidgoldbrass · 01/03/2012 22:06

You don't even know that! She may have been adopted by a man her mother subsequently married. She might, in fact, be a complete con artist and not even the DD that the H may or may not be the biofather of.

I don't have a lot of time for this idea that everyone is entitled to know their roots. I think some studies have been done which show that people who were adopted or had one parent vanish or abandon them often do perfectly all right if they are looked after by other loving adults and regard the whole not-knowing-bio-parents as no big deal. Whereas the ones who are desperate to make contact are quite often whinyarse fuckups who play the No Biological Roots WAAAAA! card and blame everything that's gone wrong in their lives on having no contact with a bio-parent.

BasilRathbone · 01/03/2012 22:14

If this woman is the OP's DH's daughter, then I think he should pay her all the back pay of child maintenance he owes her.

TheFallenMadonna · 01/03/2012 22:23

My biological father also left my mum before I was born. I have never had any contact at all with him, and have never sought any.

When I had my first child, I did have a moment when I saw my DH with our DS, when I thought how could anyone just go off and leave - never want to see their own child? But my DH did get it. He never saw me. I wasn't real to him. He wasn't abandoning the real me - just the idea of a baby. Not particularly commendable of course, but not a personal rejection.

Were I to turn up on his doorstep, I don't see how he could summon up any emotion other than shock and possibly panic - and I would feel the same should any potential "half siblings" out there suddenly show up looking for me.

Rights and wrongs aside (and I'm not saying that he wasn't wrong 30 years ago - he was), I think the reaction isn't an unreasonable one really. Although time now to take his head out of the sand.

TheFallenMadonna · 01/03/2012 22:28

Off now to search for "whinyarse fuckups" on Google Scholar to try to find that study SGB speaks of...

LemonDifficult · 01/03/2012 22:33

OP, I think you need a bit of outside support/family mediation. So far, it's not gone that well and it does sound like your DH may need some help with dealing with all of this. You may need some too, as may his other dd.

noddyholder · 02/03/2012 00:10

But this girl does want to see him. And she seems to have pursued it so seems serious. My dad left when I was v young and I have never had a desire to see him ever but my sister has and she needed to. It ended with her thinking he was a selfish git who she didn,t know at all but it was affecting her whole life.

specialgun · 02/03/2012 00:15

I had been with my ex for 2 years when, just before I gave birth, he left me never to be seen again. He thought it would be easier for him to leave if he had never seen our DS.

He played down the seriousness and length of our relationship to other people. I know this because I am in contact with the next woman he had a relationship with. They were together for five years and he walked out when she got pregnant. She wrote to me in despair and disbelief - it had never occured to her that he would do the same thing to her.

solidgoldbrass · 02/03/2012 00:28

It's not a given that you would feel a deep mystic connection with someone just because you have a DNA match with them. Some biological parents abuse and mistreat their DC (and it's a hugely common fantasy among children, even happy, well-looked-after ones, that they have Real Parents somewhere else who will one day come and sweep them off to a Better Life). Given that the OP's H seems, at the time of the child's birth, suspected (or wanted to believe) that he might not be the sperminator anyway, it's not really that dreadful a sin for him to have avoided contact and to be less than enthusiastic at the arrival on his doorstep of a woman he doesn't know who claims to be his DD.

TheSecondComing · 02/03/2012 00:28

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solidgoldbrass · 02/03/2012 00:34

TSC: I'm glad your friend is not a whinyarse. I think you misread my post, it's not being in care/adopted/raised by only one bioparent that makes you a whinyarse, it's blaming everything in your life on the fact.

And I find it a bit annoying that people get so slobberingly sentimental and judgemental about 'real' biorelations when it really doesn't have to be that big a deal. If someone showed up on my doorstep claiming to be a half-sibling I would have no problem taking out a court order if the person refused to fuck off when told to.

empirestateofmind · 02/03/2012 00:38

The phrase "the best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour" comes to mind reading that specialgun. The poor children.

The OP's DH has a very poor track record in negotiating human relationships and if I were her I would be very wary of what the future holds.

TheSecondComing · 02/03/2012 00:42

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solidgoldbrass · 02/03/2012 00:45

Maybe he should. Maybe he should have asked for a DNA test at the time. Still doesn't mean that he has to accept the arrival of this woman in his life if he doesn't want to. She's obviously a bit needy and a bit of a mess or she would have accepted the fact that he didn't want contact when he didn't reply to her email. Turning up on someone's doorstep bleating for acknowledgement when they have already indicated that they don't want to know is never a good idea.

PigletUnrepentant · 02/03/2012 00:47

"my primary goal is to protect my nice happy family unit"

Gosh, I don't think you are that nice, really.

And you say your h is a devoted father???, he abandons his first child, his second one doesn't want to see him... wake up and smell the coffee, he doesn't seem like a devoted parent. Sorry, but hope your marriage last, because your own child might be next in the queue.

ThatVikRinA22 · 02/03/2012 01:04

im glad you have managed to talk to your Dh and get him to email, i am in a similar situation to his DD, except i have no idea who my father is, so the sperm donor that was mine is off the hook.

if i did, i would probably want a few answers to some questions too. perhaps that is all she wants.
My 'father' did what your DH did and scarpered as soon as he knew the object of his fling was pregnant.
my mother was left holding a baby that she didnt want either. He got the easy option - forget it.
my childhood was pretty shite due to the inability of the adults in this scenario to sort their responsibilities out.

his DD in this case has done nothing wrong - if he didnt want contact he shouldnt have ignored her until she was forced to come knocking. Time to face the responsibilities of fathering a child.

im kind of rooting for her.

mrsbaldwin · 02/03/2012 08:05

Well, I for one, would love to know what happens next [nosy]

Does the happy scenario that one poster mentioned come to pass - daughter gradually becomes part of family unit and everyone wishes they had met her long before? (would be nice)

Does the daughter attend the meeting, ask OP's DH for an explanation of his behaviour, tell him she hates him and present him with a bill for 29 years unpaid maintenance or ask him to fork over for her postgraduate degree in medicine (after which OPs DH asks her to take a DNA test)

Does the daughter at first meeting seem a delight and the relationship develops, but in fact turns out to be a bunny-boiling malcontent who throws OPs family relationships into an unpleasant turmoil (in which case the OPs instinct to protect herself/her own children will have been justified)

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