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Need advice on various issues please - sex addict / medication / constant perceived criticism

87 replies

NomNomNom · 26/02/2012 17:54

H and I have been living separately for almost 2 years due to this .

During this time he has been having counselling, still is, and also on antipsychotics and antidepressants. I did counselling for just over a year, which was extremely helpful as I now feel quite good. We occasionally have one or two joint counselling sessions to iron out parenting issues which we can't agree on, and ways of talking to each other. I've had legal advice so know where I stand.

One revelation from the counselling has been that H was quite seriously abused during his childhood. This explains his secretiveness and sex addiction (see other thread).

Recently we have been getting on a bit better. However, one thing which we just can't get past is that H takes everything I say as a criticism. We have talked about this in joint counselling: the counsellor said that many things I say ARE criticism - fine, but why shouldn't I say when I don't like something he does? - but some situations are just so bizarre that I don't know how we can get past this.

For example, recently H and I were talking about childbirth and what an amazing feat it is for women. He thought I was saying he is less of a person than me because he can't give birth. Hmm Seriously. This has never even crossed my mind as it is a completely outlandish thought.

It is as though when I could be seen to be doing something well it takes away from his position - we can't both be great at different things, if I'm pleased with something I've managed to do, he sees it as a criticism of him for not doing the same thing. But this is not how I think at all, it doesn't even cross my mind to expect him to do everything that I do. Similarly, because of his reaction to every perceived (nonexistent!) slight I wonder if he sees me as deficient when I don't achieve things he does.

I don't know if this makes sense to anyone. Basically, sometimes I'd like it if he said nice things about difficult things I've managed to do, but whenever I bring this up, he completely overreacts, cries, gets angry, and misunderstands my viewpoint completely. The result of his reaction is that my feelings are completely disregarded (any conversation about how he hurts my feelings turns into one about how I'm hurting his feelings by mentioning my feelings!) and we never get anywhere. It's like he has some module missing in his mind or something!

The other thing I was wondering is whether anyone has ever successfully reconciled with a (former) sex addict. I am insisting on living separately for the foreseeable future (and beyond) because I really like it, but we more or less still have a relationship. I am still trying to decide whether I want to carry on or completely call it a day. Despite all of my counselling I still haven't come to a conclusion yet.

One issue is that he will have to decrease his medication soon, and I am seriously dreading it. It took 6 months for him to find a combination which worked for him, and during those months he frequently stormed off crying or in a rage, turned up late for contact with DD, behaved erratically and was generally awful to me. This obviously makes me worried about how to arrange contact when he changes his medication as any perceived limitation of his time with DD will be met with threats of legal action etc. But this time DD is a lot older so will be more distressed by crazy behaviour and non-responsiveness (he zones out a lot).

I know I should finally 'leave the bastard', but tbh, it's more complicated than that.

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Wretched · 19/03/2012 10:07

Looks like he is trying to reinforce his role, or over egging the parenting pudding. Perhaps he is trying to be playful and look like über dad. Very annoying anyway.

I don't understand why you has to spend the day together, it was mothers day. I think you play unto him too much and need to engineer some distance. If he is allowed time on his own with dd that should be enough... What's with the "family time"??

Starwisher · 19/03/2012 10:11

Op really what are you getting out of this realtionship?

You can still have him in your life for practical things and co parenting, it doesnt gave to be all or nothing.

but why contine to flog a dead realtionship ?

Don't you think you deserve more? A man who brings joy into your life?

Wretched · 19/03/2012 10:18

I think you are noticing more annoying things about him because you really don't like him/ love him anymore. This may not have dawned on you because you are always worrying about him. In the cold light of dy, he is just a man you used to be in a relationship with, had a child with. You can grow way from the man he used to be, look back and there is not much to like. It happens, it's sad, but you will be much happier if you just take yourself forward now and have contact on more of a co parent basis. Stop worrying over his behaviours and oddities, it's a tool for him to keep you under the thumb as he knows you want to ensure he is a good parent for your dd. but she wll be picking up on the tension don't doubt it.

Starwisher · 19/03/2012 10:21

I also agree you dd will be placed under tension. This isn't really fair on her

I think you need to reframe him as a co parent and try and find a way to become emotionally neutral to him so he has no power any more over you.

AnyFucker · 19/03/2012 11:52

He's really swinging his dick around, isn't he ? What a great big arrogant arse he has is.

Why do you put up with it ? he sounds fucking awful. He would rather make his little dd stumble and fall than shift his carcass ?

big man

mummytime · 19/03/2012 12:25

I just want to add, that I also see no reason for him to be at your house on mother's day. This should be a day when you have have contact. He can have some contact of father's day as balance.
If you are worried about the touching, can you have someone else supervise the contact, and see if they see an issue?

fiventhree · 19/03/2012 13:23

If you are worried, you probably should be.

Certainly he has parenting issues, doesnt he?

And why on earth cant you tell people?

I would love to be able to say that I finally went to a lawyer about my h because I could see through his crap about the infidelity and weird online sex, but I didnt. I just kept believing his lies.

But I did finally see a lawyer and make plans to leave because I finally acknowledged that the crap parenting (ie no parenting) and tension at home was really affecting the kids. And it always does, doesnt it, even if they cant tell you?

I stayed because mine changed, but yours hasnt, has he?

I think he is messing with both of your heads, and getting away with it.

Why on earth do you let him? You do need to be harder on yourself about why that is, if counselling hasnt helped.

NomNomNom · 20/03/2012 22:55

I agree with you. The problem is that I just don't know why I'm still clinging on. I suppose I still hope he'll change. He's changed some of his behaviour. But 2 years is a long time to sit and wait (while working on my own stuff obviously).

I know our dynamics when we spend time together are damaging. When it gets too annoying I limit that time, but sometimes it's fun to do things as a family. Plus I pretty much have no proper friends, especially not with children.

I think I still feel sort of attached to him. Letting go would be a big step as it means giving up the dream of the life I wanted (more children, moving abroad etc). I know it's unlikely any of that will happen anyway, but while we're limping along like this I can at least fool myself into thinking that eventually it/he will be better and life can be how I wanted.

It's all a bit hopeless.

One step forward though: I've decided not to do any more counselling with him as our counsellor is sometimes a bit rubbish and he clearly doesn't open up in counselling or implement any of her suggested strategies or take on board her recommendations. If he had been doing any of those things consistently, or even just once, I'd feel more positive about his ability to change.

Do fucked up husbands ever change? What makes it happen?

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Starwisher · 20/03/2012 23:08

". Letting go would be a big step as it means giving up the dream of the life I wanted"

But the dream has already gone

AnyFucker · 21/03/2012 00:27

If he was going to change he would have done it by now

I think you are wise to give up the joint counselling, it's not recommended in abusive relationships

Ask yourself a different question

Wha has to happen for you to let go ?

NomNomNom · 21/03/2012 14:28

What would have to happen ... I don't know, perhaps if a nice bloke asked me out, that might give me the final push. Or if DD's dad showed a tiny glimpse of insight. Or an even more massive lack of insight than he has already shown.

The dream has already gone ... Hmm, I suppose it has, I just keep hoping I can get some of it back... Sad

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AnyFucker · 21/03/2012 14:34

well love, no decent bloke is going to come near you when he sees this fella still plonking his fat arse in the middle of your floor and you all playing Happy Fucking Families together

you are not going to move on and get on with your life until you seperate yourself properly from him, you use your childfree time (when he has access) to go out and get yourself and a life, and you stop hoping he is going to morph into a good person

there are plenty of great blokes out there...this one you are clinging to is a defective one

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