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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - New Year, New Start, The Journey So Far.........

999 replies

Mouseface · 28/01/2012 15:33

Hello, I'm Mouse Smile

Welcome. There are all kinds of lovely Babes on board this Bus, drinkers, non-drinkers, part-time drinkers and those who have no idea what they are when it comes to drinking. Some are newer posters and some have been here forever for a little while. Wink

Come and say hi, there are no rules, no 'must haves', just plenty of open and honest support.

You can talk about whatever you like. Your life, your love or even your laundry. We've seen it all! Grin

The important thing is that you can post if you want to, or not if you don't. There are posters in AA and posters who are using medication to beat The Booze and of course posters who are just trying to cut their drinking down with the support of The Bus and the people around them.

See where we've been so far by following this ---> LINK TO PREVIOUS THREADS HERE

OP posts:
Silver66 · 14/02/2012 23:39

checking in.

and out xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

fuzzymind · 15/02/2012 00:24

this thread moves so quick! find it haerd to keep up but its so good it is busy and so much support xxx

Just a quick one, Day 2 done feel fabulous welcome to all teh newbies i am new too xxx

Hugs to mouse and anyone lese who needs them

RainQueen · 15/02/2012 08:36

day 3 for me and feeling positive. No alcohol in the house and some nice fruit juice to put in my wine glass later. Grin

Good luck Quiet with the meal out. We can do it! Smile

Thinking of you Mouse xxx

Jesus- don't worry about the chocolate. Just start again today.

And finally good luck to all the Mums on half-term. I haven't decided what I am doing with my brood yet. It has stopped raining so maybe a trip to the ducks Grin. I have started to ignore all threads about half term antics where people are "only" taking their DCs to the Natural History Museum, baking muffins (with home laid eggs!) and then going for a 10 mile bike ride before writing it all down in a beautifully presented scrapbook to show and tell at school!!!!! Grin.

There's nothing wrong with a trip to the ducks and sweets from the PO!!!!!!!!

I'll check in later xxxxx

Rain

jesuswhatnext · 15/02/2012 08:41

rain Grin yeah, i would hate to be as perfect as those mothers! i bet after all that effort they are carrying gin in their handbags to swig in the loo! do you remember the french and saunders sketch?Grin

right, im off to the docs - hate hate hate being pulled about but needs must, see you all later

sarahRT · 15/02/2012 08:48

Ducks seem fine to me Rain, DS who is now 22 has no recollection of all the effort I put in with trips, only remembered getting covered in mud mainly in the back field here and relentlessly tying his sister up in the log shed.

Well done and I know you all might think it's mad, but if you can write down some of the feelings you have it is really useful. Struggling with booze is just one chapter hopefully, in this rich tapestry, and when you look back at the feelings and experiences you had, it's very cathartic, and perhaps I should have asked the boy to write his experiences down when he was little, we really did have a good time. So much easier these days with the computer.

Good for you too Fuzzy. Wonder what happened to Wolf?

venusandmars · 15/02/2012 09:32

Morning all, feeling bright and breezy here - much like the weather. I've felt over the last weeks that I've been struggling a lot more, feeling tempted and then feeling deprived and resentful as a consequence. Anyway I've been re-reading the Allen Carr Easyway book (first read it several years ago), and it has helped me to see things in a different perspective. Today I know that I don't actually like the taste of alcohol, I know that I enjoy the refeshing feeing of soda with a freshly squeezed lime in it, and don't feel like I'm fighting the feelings and it has stopped being such hard work. Yay Grin

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 10:24

morning everyone, could I join you please?

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 15/02/2012 10:25

Morning all

Just a quick one. Gosh this house is sooo not good for me...the PC is about 2 metres away from the table where the DC are currently making far too much noise whilst Play-Dohing. Previously they were making far too much noise whilst having breakfast. Later it will be crafting...aarrgghh I can't hear myself think!!

Anyway...just wanted to check-in. I am reading avidly but not finding the time, headspace or energy to post much. Gotta love the school holidays Confused Grin. Those quotes about guilt were really inspiring yesterday. Love it. I seem to take notice of the opinions of well-renowned writers or philosophers (or Brave Babes :o) but years and years of telling myself that I shouldn't feel guilty about certain things just doesn't seem to carry any weight whatsover.

Venus, Allen Carr keeps cropping on here. I really must look into it. Sorry you've been struggling a bit recently. Anything in particular causing that do you think? Hope DD is still doing well.

Thurso, Venus, Ma, JWN, you all sound like such lovely mums. It must be incredibly hard letting your DC go but would you really, honestly, want them to stay at home, or very nearby forever?? You have given them the confidence and security to feel able to explore new places and be independent. It doesn't mean they don't love you or won't still need you. Focusing on the adults my DC will grow into is what gets me through some of the challenges now. And I hope they turn out like yours (well, what I've heard about them sounds good anyway...Wink)

Rain, Quiet, Posh, it sounds like you're doing great. The first few days are hard. It does get sooo much easier though. I never thought I'd be able to go for an hour without thinking about when I'm going to have my next drink, now I don't struggle at all most nights. So much of it is habit. If I were you I would get lots of nice 'treats' in, to replace the 'reward' of the booze. For me it needs to be something special, not something I would routinely drink anyway. So it might be some fancy fruit juice, or Shloer-type drink, or posh chocolates, or nibbles and dips or whatever. I would spend a bit of time today, as early on as possible, thinking about what exactly you would look forward to eating/drinking/doing tonight instead of boozing and take the necessary steps to have those things in place for when (or if) you get the craving later. And if you're feeling guilty for spending money on yourself like that, remember how much the wine costs...why would I never buy myself a £2 bar of gorgeous chocolate yet I'd think nothing of spending at least £5 on wine, almost every single night?? Be good to yourself :)

Also, try to think about what your individual triggers are. What is it that makes you want/need a drink?? Is it loneliness, stress, hunger, tiredness etc? And what can you do to try to reduce the chances of these triggers occurring or at least stop them being so overwhelming that you feel like you must drink? Is there anything you can do to prevent that craving in the first place? We all have different triggers and different daily routines but I have found great benefit in planning my day; planning ways to keep myself as calm as possible. At first it took quite a bit of time and effort but through addressing my 'issues' and my triggers I have found that I can avoid some of them. For a good week or two my main focus in my day was to avoid my anxiety throughout the day building up to such a level that by 5 or 6 o'clock or whatever I was so wound up that I NEEDED a drink URGENTLY! It seemed quite self-indulgent to be thinking of myself and my own needs and stress levels, but I cannot tell you how much my family have all benefited, so by acknowledging my own needs/weaknesses everyone is happier. Result :)

Sorry, I've gone on again. The playdoh seems to be going down rather well! Oops, think I spoke too soon...

Have good days everyone! Stay strong. Today I will not be drinking :)

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 15/02/2012 10:30

Hi Trinity. I remember you (from previous threads, I don't think we've 'met' so to speak). I remember your story :( But I think I saw a post from you on another thread a few months ago about how much better things were for you. How are you doing? Sorry this must be really weird because I'm sure you won't know anything about me! I'm not a stalker, honest... Blush

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 10:33

hi, I dont think your a stalker at all Smile

things are much better but I'm drinking too much Sad

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 15/02/2012 10:43

Well you're in good company :) Do you think you could not drink today? Or cut down on the amount? What's your plan, or your aim anyway?

Glad things are better.

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 10:47

well this morning I feel utterly utterly awful
hangover from hell Blush Sad

I'm not drinking today at all

I'm aiming at having a complete break for at least 2 weeks tbh

I know its sounds useless
2 weeks should be nothing

I wish I didn't feel like I was entitled to drink every night without getting fat, feeling shit, harming my health etc

ugh

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 10:49

also I've just joined the weight loss thread, I've joined ww online

I don't want to be this big anymore

and I reckon its mainly due to copious amounts of wine

Fairenuff · 15/02/2012 11:07

Hi Trinity good to hear from you again. Don't think about two weeks, just focus on today. If you feel crap then try to hang on to that feeling and remember it, it will be more motivation for you Smile.

Good luck with the diet. I have lost 13lb so far this year and I am certain it's largely because I'm not drinking.

venus I am so glad you have managed to get your head back in the right 'space'. It's so frustrating when you can't work out why you're battling when you haven't had too much trouble for ages. It's a good idea sometimes to go back to basics and start again. Hopefully, you will feel more in control now Smile.

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 15/02/2012 11:07

It doesn't sound useless at all! It's only a few months ago that every single day was Day 1 for me. Seriously, I couldn't go a single day without a drink. Those hangovers are just horrific. I cannot tell you how much better I feel to not spend every day feeling hungover and just dreadful. And I've lost weight too! Good for you for posting here and for joining the weight loss groups as well. You have lots to motivate you - moving away from the hangovers from hell, and moving towards a healthier, happier and slimmer you :)

Each day you don't drink, you'll feel better. Keep posting and letting us know how you're getting on. I need to get my arse in gear and get off the PC. It's nearly lunchtime and I'm not dressed Shock. I blame Mumsnet :o

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 15/02/2012 11:09

Morning, Faire. 13lbs? Wow. That's brilliant Envy :)

I really am going now...

venusandmars · 15/02/2012 11:25

Hi Trinity always lovely to see you around Smile. Sounds like this is a good time to use your hangover as motivation. I remember from previous threads how much better you feel when you're eating well and not drinking. It really, really is worth it. Most of all for yourself, but of course big positives for your family, and for your dp.

venusandmars · 15/02/2012 11:33

I also need to loose some weight and get fitter. I am such a lazy slob, and I am a hedonist, so I like all the things that give pleasure (chocolate, cheese, being comfortable and happy) and I hate all the things that cause discomfort. I have never found any genuine pleasure in exercise Sad I enjoy a nice leasurely stroll and I love fresh air, but anything more that that feels like a chore and the effort of getting my bike out of the garage or getting changed for swimming are enough to derail what little motivation I might have had. I detest getting hot and sweaty and out of breath, so I never push myself, and even (way, way in the past) when I have trained for months, I always end up with a beetroot face within 2 minutes.

Do you think there's any hope for me? I think I need someone to come and knock on my door every day and MAKE me do something active.

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 11:36

hi venus

I definitely feel like a hedonist too but I'm quite excited about getting a bike tbh

I dont mind exercising, I just dont do it which is pathetic

Fairenuff · 15/02/2012 11:53

venus you made me Grin. I am exactly the same. I hate being cold or wet or too hot. It makes me really grumpy. A lovely stroll on a summer's evening is my ideal exercise, preferably to a restaurant or coffee shop to 'recharge my batteries'. My comfort zone is extemely narrow, but I'm working on it. Smile

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 12:00

ooh narrow comfort zone, that definitely describes me too Blush

Fairenuff · 15/02/2012 12:16

I have to force myself to go out to pilates and sometimes I don't even enjoy it while I'm there, but I always feel good afterwards.

I have to make myself do active stuff because, naturally I really enjoy reading, puzzles, chatting, pottering around the house, sunbathing, computers, all the non-active stuff. I think my brain is well exercised though Grin. I don't watch a lot of tv, I prefer to do things which are more interactive.

This afternoon I am going to interact with the hoover, washing machine, bleach, etc. and give this house a really good scrub down.

Music on, windows open, sleeves rolled up . . . bring it on Smile.

TrinityRhino · 15/02/2012 12:19

sounds like a good plan fairenuff Grin

HippoPottyMouth · 15/02/2012 12:47

oh god yes, narrow comfort zone here alright. but very deep and hard to get up out off too!

I am getting FAT again :( I lost 2 stone last year (mostly by using all points for wine, yes, me too) and now it's mostly back on.

I was hoping that stopping drinking would help but I have been compensating with lovely bottlegreen treacle cordial (lime with hot water is nice for a hot drink in the evening!) and chocolate and ice cream, etc etc.

I cannot seem to find a good plan in my head though. Exercise would be good and I like the idea of going to the gym, but realistically cannot see when I can go except maybe once at weekends. I have the Shred DVD, I guess that would be a start. Need to maybe commit to WW meetings again or something. I always do the best when I'm going to meetings.

sarahRT · 15/02/2012 12:48

For me, it was never a craving, it was a habit and a lifestyle choice. Because I was involved in the Yuppiness of the 80's, work hard play hard ethic, and socially all my friends drank, it never occurred to me to not drink. Only when it started to get a grip did it all fall apart. Up until then I loved my life, and I loved to drink. I wasn't harming anyone except myself, and thought I was invincible anyway.

It is so much easier now with more education to break the habit, not the taboo it used to be although many of my clients are still very embarrassed that they have lost control.

I have said before we are creatures of habit and routines, that's by far the hardest part in my opinion to overcome. Many of you don't want to abstain completely which is fine if you can control your drinking, I couldn't, eventually after breast cancer and a feeling of total helplessness and despair found my way. Guilt, that passed, there was a co-dependency in my family, I could be manipulated when I had been drinking, not in a nasty way, but let's say it was easy to take advantage of me. There was guilt on all sides. It's very hard to face up any weakness takes courage to admit you are wrong/ill/tired/lonely but it's a huge relief when you do.

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