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"But We Took You To Stately Homes!" - Survivors of Dysfunctional Families.

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singingprincess · 28/01/2012 13:25

There is a word document with all the relevant links which I will try and find, but in the meantime...Post away.

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pluckingupcourage · 26/04/2012 09:45

(and thanks Lemon, HotDamn, forgot to say how great you are due to sleep deprivation)

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 26/04/2012 11:23

Congrats! You can be proud of your bravery.

You know that there will be some kind of fallout: they are not going to take it meekly. But know that you can handle that fallout, whatever it is.

Looking forward to the new name!

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 26/04/2012 11:30

Here, maybe this can help you right at the moment. Steps 6 and 7 have helped me a lot in the past when I felt like a fearful crying wreck.

Lemonylemon · 26/04/2012 11:37

Well done, Plucking

Maybe your new name could be IDIDITIDIDIT!

Have a cry, then a cup of tea, go and buy yourself a little bunch of flowers, put some music on and start to calm down....

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 26/04/2012 12:10

This stuff is hard!

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pluckingupcourage · 26/04/2012 12:12

HotDAMN, yes, hard's the word ;-)

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Arana · 27/04/2012 00:47

Well done Plucking - you've given me the courage to start writing my own letters.

Lemonylemon · 27/04/2012 09:38

The world is indeed still here, as are we....... Keep posting!

mampam · 30/04/2012 08:14

I feel like a monster Sad

I got together with a few old friends on Friday night and the conversation came around to me and my mother. I told them I hadn't had anything to do with her now for about 18months. The responses I got from this were along the lines of "oh but that's such a long time", "never say never". I told them that I never have any intention of having anything to do with her again and they just couldn't accept this.
One of them even asked me "what would happen if your mum dropped dead tomorrow?" to which I replied "I'd be free" and they all seemed absolutely gobsmacked by this.

I know they meant well but I'm left feeling like an unfeeling monster.

meiinlove · 30/04/2012 08:34

Oh mampam, that was so sad to read. I guess people with nice families just don't understand (until they see yours/ours in action, maybe). You know though why you've cut contact. You described it very clearly so many times on here and at least to me it makes perfect sense. In fact I take strength from how you deal with things and how happy you sound most of the time since you made that decision.

beatenbyayellowteacup · 30/04/2012 08:37

mampam it's unthinkable in our society to not "love" your mother. But - some mothers are unlovable. And that's because of their behaviour, not the child's. It takes someone to have a mother like that to understand. Your friends won't - that doesn't make you an unfeeling monster, just someone with a wider (and sadder) experience of how life can be.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/04/2012 08:41

Hi mampam,

re your comment:-
"The responses I got from this were along the lines of "oh but that's such a long time", "never say never". I told them that I never have any intention of having anything to do with her again and they just couldn't accept this".

These are the typical types of refrain from those who fortunately do not come from dysfunctional families themselves or have narcissistic mothers as mothers. You'd be better off writing your thoughts on here.

You are certainly not an unfeeling monster!.

mampam · 30/04/2012 09:59

Thanks. It really helps that you guys know where I'm coming from. I just hate it when my decision is called into question and it almost makes me doubt myself.

Lesson learned. I will not be drawn into conversation about my mother in future and stick to saying "you never know what goes on behind closed doors". End of conversation.

DH has been really good. He reminded me what tipped me over the edge with my mother and prompted me to cut all ties in the first place:

-horrendous year of verbal abuse and criticism whilst pregnant
-odd behaviour towards DC's especially newborn, grabbing arm, stroking face and arms in a way that made us (DH and I) both feel very uncomfortable
-joining my diet club and then gloating that she was losing more weight than me (very sensitive subject to me)
-never ever speaking of my real father throughout my life and then dropping bombshell that she was in contact with him on Facebook
-found out she wouldn't let me keep in contact with him when I was 7 as she'd 'moved on with her life'.
-refusing to give me any explaination about RF and my lack of contact with him
-seeing her writing about RF and having conversations about him on FB for the whole bloody world to see even though she wouldn't talk to me about him

This on top of all the usual shit and years of crap is why I do not want anything to do with my mother and I haven't even scratched the surface Grin

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 30/04/2012 10:05

IME, it's the people with difficult parents themselves but who are still in the FOG who react badly to me telling them how I feel about my own parents.

People with fairly healthy parents, again IME, have grown up with fairly healthy self-respect and respect for others, and are therefore able to respect my position.

twinkletwinkleoldbat · 30/04/2012 14:34

"what would happen if your mum dropped dead tomorrow?" to which I replied "I'd be free"

Thank you for saying this and being so honest. I feel the same way as I sometimes fantasize about my parents being in a car crash. I know this is horrible. But the reason we feel guilty about it is because we are decent people - we doubt ourselves because that is how we were conditioned. You didn't bring any of this on yourself, you are only protecting yourself and your child from abuse. You are very brave to do so!

Lemonylemon · 30/04/2012 15:13

mampam my DS's paternal gran kissed DS's willie when he was a few weeks old.... I (naturally freaked) and asked my Mum whether it was an Irish thing, she asked her Mum and neither of them had heard anything like it.... I've never told DS, and won't do. But never allowed him to stay overnight, but his father went behind my back when he had him to stay because having DS on a Friday night or a Saturday night interfered with his social life.... Sad

mampam · 30/04/2012 16:13

hotDAMN yes that may well be true although I'm not sure how I would've reacted to a friend if I was still in the FOG, hard to say. I would like to think that I would've listened rather than pass judgement.

twinkle my mother on many an occasion has threatened suicide for attention purposes and has never even come close. She once threatened to walk into the sea and drown herself because my brother had lost his car keys Confused at the time I can remember thinking to myself "go on then just do it" and would quite often visualise the sight of my mother walking into the sea. So you are not alone.

Lemony my god that's awful. Hopefully it was done innocently Hmm like a raspberry on a baby's bottom or something but I think you are right to be cautious. Bloody ex's! Mine is a pain in the bum but that's another story.

I was never worried about my mother/DC's in a sexual way it was more a feeling I had that she would take them and never bring them back. I can't exactly put my finger on why just a series of things. For example:

-when DD1 was born she used to say "come to mummy, oops I mean nanny" far too many times for it to just be an innocent slip of the tongue.

-she used to tell me to "look after the DC's whilst I'm on holiday"

-if she was late back after taking dc's out I would start panicking and thinking she wouldn't bring them back. I have never thought that about any other friends or family who have taken DC's out and been late back.

-on DS's last birthday before I cut her out of our lives, she came to our house barely said 2 words but followed DS where ever he went, from room to room. We had a BBQ, she refused any food but stood over DS as he ate, staring at him. DS kept looking up at her and didn't know where to look or what to do. It was very freaky and made everyone feel really uncomfortable.

-when dd2 was born she kept putting her face about an inch away from dd's making her scream everytime. She would hold onto her arm too especially if she was being held by someone else as if to say " i've got hold of her so you can't take her away from me". She also had her own nickname for DD2 and when I called her my little nickname she would immediately say hers loudly as if I wasn't allowed to have a nickname only she was. (fairly pathetic I know).

-she would stroke dd2's face in an obsessive way, using her whole hand not a light back of finger/hand like you would expect someone to do to a newborn, I can't really describe it but I didn't like it and neither did DH. It was like she couldn't get enough of her and DH still describes it as 'creepy'.

-She also hated my DH spending time alone with DD2 (his first child) . We went to her village fete where she snatched a crying DD away from him in front of everyone as if he was incapable of dealing with her and when he took her off for a little walk in her pram whilst I sorted the other DC out with having their faces painted my mother was on edge the whole time and kept saying "where are they?" and a very relieved "oh there they are" on DH's return. It was as if I'd let my then 7 year old ds take the baby off for a walk on his own.

Anyway I'm sure you get what I mean. I'm adding to the list aren't I of reasons why I'm best off without my mother Smile

twinkletwinkleoldbat · 30/04/2012 21:59

Good god, mampam freaky is the word. Just think of all that anxiety you're saving your dcs from. :)

Lemonylemon · 01/05/2012 09:19

mampam that's hideous..... Sad