The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Joins The Foreign Legion In Their Quest For Sobriety.

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Hello, I'm Mouse and I have a very abusive relationship with alcohol.

I can't just have one glass of anything, I have to drink until I pass out or run out. Whichever comes first.

This Bus is a place of solace and safety, where drinkers, non-drinkers and those who aren't quite sure can come and post or just sit and 'be'.

No-one will judge you, no-one will think any the less of you because we all have the same thing in common.

Alcohol.

And for those who want to read the journey's so far and the original thread by JWN, the lady who very bravely started these journeys for us, HERE they are.

(PS - the title is just for you notevenamousie)

It is important that we all look out for each other, in both physical and pyshcological terms. All women groups are best for physical safety. Being fully informed is best for psychological safety. The orange papers, stinkin-thinkin.com, morerevealed.com and blamedenial on youtube are the best first stops.

Thankyou for welcoming me. I would like to share a family problem with you all if I may. DP cousin is 34 years old and an alcoholic. She is in an on/off co dependant relationship with a man who is a worse case alcoholic than herself. This lady (We will call her M) Has 3 beautiful DDs who are now in the permanent care of their gran (DP Aunty). M and I are very good friends, we have always got on.
I am so, so worried for M. Its like she is on self destruct. She is stunningly good looking and smart, despite her problems. M keeps missing her AA meetings and seems to not be able to keep up her sobriety.
Recently her parents paid for her to detox privately. She did it, and stayed off alcohol for two months. She tried so very hard to get better. Then she got back with boyfriend and it all went to pot again. She is very frail and has to walk with sticks. Its a sad sight.
Two nights ago she took a massive overdose and was rushed into hospital. I am really worried about her. She is in a real mess. She needs a psychiatrist in my opinion. She has a social worker.
We are all a very close family and his affects us all. Her daughters are completely traumatised.
I cant help but feel sorry for her, I help her as much as I can but dont think I am getting anywhere. her mum and dad are distraught. Anyone know someone like her? What happened to them?

Beak - not ignoring you, will respond in a mo xx

Buggering - Just to let you know I have reported your latest post asked MNHQ to please keep an eye on your future posts. As yet, you are not in breach of their Talk Guidelines but I can assure you that you are not welcome here.

Nor were the posters who tried and failed to post about this before you.

You are wasting your time here and actually causing damage to this thread. A thread that has taken over a year to build up to what it is today - a safe place, a place for support, pouring your heart out, asking for help, crying, laughing and hoping that someone on here has been in your shoes and can feel the pain that you do.

You don't offer any of that, nor do you ask for support for your own drinking so can you please, please, if you have any respect for us, and what we are all trying so hard to achieve, just stop posting and go away?

Beak - I'm sorry but no, I don't personally know anyone who is that bad or in that situation.

Oh god, are the AA conspiracy theorists back again?

I learned a few things from the last time they were here and one of those things was that there are excellent AA meetings and awful ones. Just be choosy and aware if a meeting is not following the traditions. It is not a perfect organisation (barely organised at all from what I can see ) but where is? All you have to do is to follow the normal rules of personal safety and you're at no more risk than anyone else, and at considerably less risk than not taking care of your personal safety when you're pissed and leaving a bar in the middle of the night.

Welcome new people!

Beak - I have known people like your friend. Sometimes they turn their lives around and sometimes they don't. Sometimes they die, which is the sad truth about alcoholism. If losing her children isn't enough for her to sort herself out then I doubt there's much you can do to help her other than wait it out and hope she eventually embraces change. I guess it's entirely up to you how deeply entrenched you want to be in her chaotic life, I bet she's already lost a lot of people along the way who just get to the end of their tether. I have a lot of sympathy for people like her because that could have been me, in fact it probably would have been me eventually but that doesn't mean that I would be carried along for the ride as my own sobriety is too important and I don't think I could cope with dealing with someone else's addiction whilst they were still in the grip of it.

Today I have been singing in town. At least it wasn't raining.

I have looked at the possibility of AA, but really don't think that it's for me. Right now, where I am in trying to be a normal person, but I do know that I have an addictive personality which doesn't help.

Am I being unrealistic in hoping that I can channel this into positive activities, rather than wringing the dregs out of a bottle every night?

The important thing is that people read the cult questions in the orange papers, stop13stepinaa, stinkin-thinkin.com, blamedenial on youtube, stantonpeele, jacktrimpey, intuitive recovery (which is increasingly being funded in Britain by the NHS, at the expense of '12 step' 'treatment'. Education is all. Namaste.

thnaks all for your kind support and encouragement. i have ordered the dress ina bigger size and will trawl the charity shops and see if I can snag a bargain.
Was up most of the night with mum - she had food poisoning - so am pretty down and tired and have had huge bowl of mince and pasta and a cupcake so am just going to write today off and try again tomorrow.
You are all right - the real elephant in the room is the drinking. I have to deal with it.

Mod there is a very good chance that you will be involved in positive activities if you don't drink every night. When are your trigger times? You need to change your habits so instead of sitting down for a drink in the evening, get busy. Take up a new evening class, go swimming, start redecorating, sort out your cupboards, come here for a chat . It doesn't really matter what else you decide to do, the important thing is that you are conscious that the craving will pass. You do not have to drink. Just use all your strategies to avoid that first drink as much as you can. Hope this helps.

There appears to be a bug on the thread

To any newbies, unfortunately the thread occasionally attracts unhelpful elements who seek to interrupt the good work here. On the thread is a mix of people going to aa and not. There are many helpful and constructive discussions about aa. Sadly buggering is just here to spout an extreme viewpoint and not to contribute. We generally ignore but it looks like someones a bit knicker twisty today. It's upsetting but if you ignore the nasty trolls they generally fuck off.

As you were.

Ooh x post. Hi

Will post properly later. X