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We have everything but the fun - smothered by life with kids

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Naetha · 29/09/2011 05:20

So the last few weeks has been a total rollercoaster - we've just emigrated with our two DCs, age nearly 2 and nearly 4 to Australia after six weeks of my husband working over here by himself. The whole thing has been massively stressful, which is kinda what we expected, but it has also exposed cracks within our relationship.

DH has made some good friends, one of whom is female. He is her "best" friend over here, and after some major arguments, major fucking up on both our parts and other messing about, I'm absolutely sure that he isn't going to run off with her. He has no "designs" on her, has been very open from the start, never being secretive or hiding anything. The only time we've really had a problem was last week when he didn't come home when he said he would, but that's because he panicked and thought I was really angry with him when actually I was just desperate to see him. We worked that all out in the end, although it took a lot of talking, and is still a bit of a raw nerve for me.

Anyway, she rung him last night (with good reason, she had said she'd ring to find an answer to a question) and he picked up the phone, eyes alight, bellowing with laughter, animated and just in a way that I haven't seen for years. That's when I realised what was missing from our marriage, and it broke my heart to see him like that with someone else when we don't have it any more. I talked to him about it after the phone call, and after talking for about 4 hours we were able to talk it through - he admits he has something with her that he doesn't have with me any more. He can't help it - it's just something he feels one way and not the other, but it breaks my heart. It's the emotional equivalent of him getting an erection every time he sees her when he can't get one with me.

We love eachother - after a LOT of talking, we are sure about that. We have a good sex life - it's been poor in the past, but it's about 4 times a week at the moment. We share values, interests, taste in music etc.

What we're missing is that spark - our life has become routine - we talk about the negative in our days so we score "points" against the other in the hope of having an easier ride of it in the evenings with the bedtime routine. We never have fun together. If we do, the kids spoil it - whether it's shopping, eating out etc, so we just end up doing things for the kids, which is OK to some extent, but we don't get anything out of it for ourselves.

However, we're in a foreign country, 12,000 miles from friends and family that could babysit/give us a break. Where on earth do we start to get that sense of fun / spark back? I'm finding it absolutely smothering looking after two very demanding pre-schoolers who are as stressed out by the move as we are, and when DH comes home from a long hard day at work it's very difficult for either of us to be anything other than grumpy and exhausted, and by the time the kids are in bed by 8pm, we're both exhausted.

I know it will get better with time, but I need something to work on now or I won't be able to get through the next few weeks.

OP posts:
MadAboutHotChoc · 29/09/2011 20:18

Mango - I appreciate what you are saying but there is no point in trying to ignite the spark if H 's mind and feelings are engaged somewhere else. Even if the OP tries her best to be the perfect, witty, exciting, sexy wife it will be a waste of time as long as the H continues this "friendship" and still has feelings for this friend.

MangoMonster · 29/09/2011 21:42

madabout. I appreciate what you are saying, if it was about me and my sh, I would wholeheartedly agree, but it's not and OP has kind ofade her feelings clear. I guess the question is - when does a mn thread become more about support than opinion... Not an easy one.

dreamingbohemian · 30/09/2011 09:02

I agree with Mango, the OP hasn't been back and I think this OW fixation is probably why. OP I hope you have gotten some helpful advice on here anyway.

jolouise · 04/10/2011 19:58

I know this is an old topic but just to let you know I'm just getting my husband back from the very same thing! We're in a new country too (for 10 months though) and my husband was hating work until someone new started. He started coming home with "such and such says...." and going for lunch/after work drinks. It went on for a month before I got suspicious and he told me he thought he fancied her and thought she fancied him too because they have so much in common. I banned him from seeing her so he went out secretly. When I found out he told me he thought I should leave him and go back to England. I got the book called "his needs, her needs" and he read it and realised how much I did for him and that the infatuation with this other woman was fleeting. But he still went out secretly and so I flipped one night (screaming at him which I've never done in 16 years) and said I'm booking flights back to the UK (I'd already mentioned that I might do this and discussed with my parents to stay in their house which he knew about). He stopped me and said we'd work on it and it is soooooooo much better (this was two weeks ago). We have kids too - 7 and 4 and he really cannot cope with their needs so its all left to me but I accept to have my husband.
I set my husband limits - basically NO f*ing about with her beyond normal friends, no more emails/texts solely to her. He needs work friends but he should be equally friendly to all. So he's not allowed to go out alone with her.
I think the shock of almost losing me after realising how much I did for him and his children really shocked him into seeing sense. I'm very independent anyway so he knew I'd go back to England if he didn't tow the line.
I hope you get through this - it sounds like you both want to - good luck!

dumdedah · 04/10/2011 21:00

I haven't read all the thread, but just wanted to suggest to regularly get out and do something on your own that you enjoy - dance classes, pottery, a book club, whatever takes your fancy. Add some spark to 'you' not chiefly for his or the relationships sake, but for yours - something that makes you happy, gives you a buzz. I don't think that will hurt the relationship, and it may well help. It's bringing something fresh into something stale. And it is worth babysitting fees if DH can't mind kids too.

Naetha · 05/10/2011 07:22

Thanks for the additional advice in the posts btw. OW fixation was why I didn't post again. I've met OW a few times now, and I really like her. I see a lot of myself in her - she's not the manipulative type, just genuinely friendly. She is babysitting for me and DH next week so we can have a proper night out together.

Me and DH had a great weekend, loads of fun together and the kids were fab too.

In addition, after a few very odd days, I realised that most of the problem was me - I was in the middle of a nervous breakdown, and DH was on the verge of one too. One of us was going to break, and if it was DH, then we'd all be going back to the uk. I'm much better now I've had some help from the doctors, and I'm not as paranoid or irrational.

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dreamingbohemian · 05/10/2011 09:52

Thanks for the update! I'm glad things are getting better, it sounds really promising Smile

I don't think you were being paranoid or irrational, I think you were having very natural reactions to a lot of stress and readjustment. Don't be too hard on yourself! and good luck with everything.

MangoMonster · 05/10/2011 11:58

Thanks for the update. Must be lovely to have settled a bit and start making the most of your new location. All the best.

verytellytubby · 05/10/2011 14:07

I was going to suggest get the new best friend to babysit!

Good luck. Hope everything works out for you.

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