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Would you believe this?

131 replies

Believable · 27/07/2011 01:46

If you were told this story, would you believe it? (sorry it is very long)

Jane was your typical woman in mid-twenties, hoping someday to find Mr right but it no, so what? Although she wanted children come hell or high water. If that meant being a single mum, then so be it. Jane unfortunately had PCOS, so the likelihood of her conceiving naturally was fairly slim.

In the summer of 2005, after another break up of a not to serious relationship, she stumbled into the taxi of a man who was quite charming. He name was John. John was not from the same country as Jane. Jane had always believed the she was no better than anyone and no one was better than her. Everyone was equal. They exchanged numbers and over the next few weeks and months, a relationship had blossomed. Jane & John decided to start trying for a baby. After a chat with her doctor they both felt that it might be a long process and her doctor prescribed some medication to increase the chances of conceiving.
After a few months they were successful. They were both overjoyed. John & Jane decided to take a trip to his home country for Jane to be introduced to his family. The trip was planned meticulously and they discussed getting married when they were away. His family would never be able to afford the money to UK to attend wedding. A decision was reached that they would marry in his country with his family and then on their 1yr anniversary, get blessing in UK with her family and friends.

So in the summer of 2006 Jane & John set of for his home country. They were welcomed warmly and Jane felt like a part of the family instantly. Jane and John were married surrounded by his family. It was a lovely day. Whilst they were there John?s father became very ill and was admitted to hospital. Things did not look good. Jane suggested that John should stay for a few weeks to spend as much time as possible with his ailing father and that she would return to UK without him. The baby was not due for 3 months so plenty of time for John to spend with his father and still be back in time for the birth.

Jane returned to the UK on her own. It was fairly unpleasant trip. Long flight to London, missing connecting flight. Having to arrange to fly to nearby airport and getting a lift from that airport in the middle of the night. Jane returned to work the following day after only a few hours? sleep. She looked very much like a busted sofa, but a happy busted sofa. Everyone was delighted that they had married. A few days later Jane had a regular check-up in hospital to monitor pregnancy, it was noted that there was reduced fluid and baby was breech. Hospital arranged for her to attend again the following week for further monitoring.

Jane was still live in her parents? house and so had to find somewhere for her, John and baby to live and set up house. The following week the fluid was decreased and Jane was signed off work and put on bed rest, now she had to attend every 3 days for monitoring. At 29 weeks she was admitted to hospital for full bed rest. There was the constant threat that they would have to deliver the baby early. Jane was frantic. Baby might not survive and John was still at his father?s bedside. She did not want to pressure him to come home.

Finally John came home when Jane was at 34weeks. Within days the fluid levels around the baby stabilised and she was allowed to go home. Baby was born by C-section at 38wks. They were both ecstatic with the new dd.

Home life settled into the mundane routine. But something kept niggling at Jane. John disappearing for hours on end, saying he was going somewhere on his way out then talking about another place when he came home. John worked nightshift and the wages coming into the house did not match the amount of hours that he was working.
Jane got suspicious and started hunting for clues. She eventually found a phone with few numbers that she did not recognise. Jane called these numbers to be told by the women on the other end that they were ?dating? her husband. All hell broke loose and Jane kicked John out of the house. Jane was raised Catholic and believed that marriage is for life. When she and Jon (also Catholic) first discussed getting married, they were in complete agreement was to what was acceptable. Infidelity was not. But Jane?s religion meant that she had to try to forgive him.

About a month after they separated, John was living with a woman(let?s call her Alice) from his own country saying that ?she knew too much? and ?she could get him into trouble? and promised that someday everything would be sorted and he & Jane would be happy again.

Jane fell into a depression. Going from being a single happy woman without a care in the world to a separated married woman with 4month old dd and debt up to her eyeballs (trip home & setting up the house).

Life ticked on as best it could. Jane did all that she could for her dd. Providing a safe and loving home albeit with only one parent. John was very sporadic in his visits, which tormented Jane. After consulting a solicitor, Jane was advised to not rock the boat. To let things plod along as they were. John would most likely be granted access to DD outside of the house but that meant the DD would be going to Alice?s house. Alice on her many many phone calls to Jane to stay away from John made it very clear that she hated Jane and disliked the idea of DD.

So in winter of 2009, a police man called to Jane house and asked to come in. PC Bobby explained that the home office had been looking at John and had discovered that he had 2 wives. One he married in UK in 2004 and Jane who he married elsewhere in 2006. This came as such a shock to Jane. She was required to go to police station to give a full statement. This process was horrific for Jane having to recount their whole relationship to a very cynical policewoman (let?s call her Sally) who seemed to be getting pleasure out of the delicious gory details of the broken relationship. Jane made it perfectly clear that she would not be giving evidence in court if it ever got that far. She provided the police with photographs and a copy of the marriage licence.

As the month went by, PC Sally pushed and pressured Jane about handing over the original marriage licence. Jane refused. If on the off chance the licence was lost/destroyed, Jane would have to fly back to John?s home country and apply in person. Jane assured PC Sally that she would make sure that the original licence was brought to court on the days it was needed.

PC Sally alternated between pushing for the licence and pushing for Jane to give evidence in court. Jane?s depression was not lifting and if anything was getting deeper and deeper. Her doctor has to write to the prosecution service and police to advise them that Jane was not medically fit to give evidence.

John?s case finally made its way to magistrates? court and was publicised on radio & newspapers much to Jane?s distress. The case moved to crown court. PC Sally contacted Jane again and this time threatened to arrest Jane. Jane had a breakdown. John?s barristers put forward an old piece of legislation from 1800s.

The following week, John?s case was dropped. His barristers had found a loophole in the law. He legally has 2 wives. He is living the life of Reilly while Jane raises their DD on her own.

OP posts:
SiamoFottuti · 31/07/2011 14:31

No, you can be both afforded equal status, with regards to benefits claims, tax and inheritance. There is case law about it, especially regarding immigration status and welfare rules.

notwithstanding any of that, I still find the OP's story impossible to believe, not for her descriptions of her actions, but those of courts and professionals and what she says they have told her/ None of that adds up.

Catslikehats · 31/07/2011 15:37

Interesting as I find the description of her actions far more unbelievable than I do the descriptions of the actions of PC Sally and the Court (although I thought the bit about old sally revelling in gory details was a little Ott, but if you're overwrought having found out that the man you loved has a whole nother life you knew nothing about then I guess you'd be a little oversensitive!).

Anyway looks like Jane is no longer about.

bejeezus · 31/07/2011 18:26

I still find the OP's story impossible to believe, not for her descriptions of her actions, but those of courts and professionals and what she says they have told her/ None of that adds up

really? i am regularly suprised by the action, behaviour and decisions of 'the courts', professionals and people in authority

Believable · 06/08/2011 14:31

Thanks for your input.

The PC is was dealing with was fairly decent as far as police go. She was ok to deal with at the start but as things were moving from court to court, she became more pushy and in the end threatened to arrest me.

It has been explained to me by the police and PPS that the 2 marriages are legal. I have been advised (on here) to seek further legal advice. I will do this when I feel up to it. This is all still pretty new & raw for me.

OP posts:
garlicbutter · 06/08/2011 17:48

I don'twant to get involved in this because I'm not a legal expert. I am, however, certain that you & Alice can't both be married to him in the eyes of British law. Which of you is the legal spouse depends on laws I don't know.

There may be some confusion if the argument extends to benefit claims. Benefits are paid for multiple wives. This is a loophole, which is under review but impossible to solve compassionately, so for now the anomaly remains.

I'm very sorry this has happened to you, and amnot surprised you feel so vulnerable. You might gain some strength by joining the abuse recovery threads on here?

Please be sure it isn't your fault. A bad man has taken advantage of your love and trust - it was done to you. It's a good idea to consult the CAB. Good luck, and take care of yourself.

GrendelsMum · 06/08/2011 18:29

At the heart of it, it's a common enough story, isn't it? Woman meets charming man, falls for him, the relationship on her side is very serious, and then it turns out he's cheating on her and has been living a second life all along.

It sounds to me at though John deliberately avoided getting married in the uk so that it wouldnt be bigamous under UK law, or at least that his previous marriagewouldnt be found out.

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