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I feel used.....

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Actanonverba · 20/07/2011 03:32

I feel used, betrayed and resentful. Brief background information. Met my current ?Partner? in 2003 whilst working in Morocco. He couldn?t get a visa to visit me here so I felt as though I had no choice than to, either end the relationship or marry him. I took the second option. The moment he arrived here he seemed like a different person although we had been ?together? for 4 years.
After being here 3 weeks he told me he had ?relatives? he wanted to visit on the South coast. I had work commitments which he knew about but was adamant he had to go on this particular day and ended up going by train. Fast forward to Sunday evening when I received a phone call telling me to pick him up! Explained it was a 200 mile round trip and I couldn?t do it. Had a few words about it, ending with me telling him to stay with his cousins.
I spoke to him a few days later when I got the impression that all he was bothered about was coming back because of his ?visa? conditions. This led to a heated argument and I ended the call and took legal advice. If I am completely truthful I have always had doubts as to the ?real? reason he wanted to marry me.
Fast forward a few months, I have applied for a Nullity of marriage and we had a hearing date which the Judge decided to hear in full on the actual day and granted me my decree. This was not before his solicitor trying (on his behalf) to claim halve my assets, which thankfully was dismissed.
No contact with him till a year later when a phone call leads us to meet up. We started a relationship again when I made it clear I wanted the complete truth on everything. I feel there have been numerous things he has hidden or lied about. He gave his word this would happen. Obviously it didn?t! A month or so later I found emails to various females claiming his love and devotion to them!
When I challenged him he said he was just ?using? the other women. WTF???!
This has been the on/off situation for the last few years until the most recent ?episode?. I asked him to stay with his friend (male) for a couple of days as we had been arguing a lot and I had important exams coming up. He agreed and we spoke each day on the phone and agreed to meet up later in the week when he would come home with me. Fast forward to the arranged day and I meet him to find his neck covered in love bites.............
Obviously hit the roof. Turns out he had been forging a ?friendship? with a woman he met through work and had been staying with her. Furthermore they (him and her) had agreed to marry and had even been so far to see a solicitor as obviously he is still subject to immigration rules. He did have the courtesy to tell me he didn?t love her but needed to ?secure? his positon in the UK!
He took great delight in telling me the explicit details of their time together and how I should be grateful he has chosen to be with me?
He doesn?t contribute anything financially, sits playing computer games for 12 hours a day, never lifts a finger round the house unless I ask and generally makes me feel like shit.
I don?t trust him, I don?t believe anything he says, I still question why he is with me and I need this to end right now. How do I get final closure? My life has moved on so much and my future definitely doesn?t include him. Why do I still feel so hurt?
This is a very shortened version of events but it gives the general picture.

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HerHissyness · 22/07/2011 09:57

THINK NOT FEEL! I like that! That's great!

Don't dissect the 'relationship' the answers are best left where they are. Probably not is the answer, but this is a reflection on HIM, not you.

What kind of person strings another along? for the one purpose of getting as much out of them as they can? That Cuckoo of a bloke took the place where a real genuine loving man could have been, he leeched and stole from you, cheated and lied, and you are so well rid.

I know you will be kicking yourself, but please don't, conmen know what they are doing, they are skilled and practised in the art of deceit. To a level you could never hope to imagine, even in their own daily lives.

Sadly it's not just 'forriners' that do this, but they do have an easier time of concealing their deceit; it's easier for us to make allowances for people that are from elsewhere, covers up a multitude of failings we would never tolerate from John Smith from the next road down from ours.

Don't beat yourself up, no harm done really at the end of the day, you have your house still, you have your life and you have shown your DDs one of the most important lessons in life. That we do make mistakes, but then we have to act to put the mistakes right, we have to be decisive and we have to follow through.

It's telling that they are delighted you have dumped this guy, they clearly hated him. For good reason.

Enjoy your life, your freedom and don't ever put up with that kind of shite again!

HerHissyness · 22/07/2011 09:59

Apocalypto, NO, doubt it, the marriage was annulled due to his behaviour I surmise, and as a result he rightly lost any claim to anything OP has.

fastweb · 22/07/2011 10:09

'think not feel

Been my salvation at times, those three little words (=

I think I have to face reality in that I will never know.

Wanting to know is normal, the issue you have is that this man is well beyond the more typical cheating spouse variety type of context. His most basic motivations for being with you look dubious.

Since he is the one source of information, you have the problem that the only place you can get answers from, is as useful as a lead weight as a life jacket. Cos his interests lie in persuading you to give him what he wants, not him giving you what you need to know.

The one comfort in this situation, is that wanting to know is a phase, not a state.

You might not notice the urgency of the need fading over time, cos it happens by tiny increments. But one day, not that far in the future, you'll suddenly realize that whatever it was based on, it doesn't matter any more.

I have never, and will never, understand why my first husband married me. He didn't need a visa, his family are wealthy and well connected, he took me back to his country at the halfway mark in our relationship cos he was sick to death of England. But without a hidden need that the partner can fulfill, it makes no sense to be with and marry somebody that you don't appear to like very much, much of the time (makes even less sense to marry somebody who doesn't seem to like you, but there you go). So there must have been something I was unaware of going on under the surface.

I really did get stuck on that question of "Why ? and what the fuck was our whole decade long relationship about and based on ?". So I know how pressing those questions can be and I know how it can almost possess you, the need to find out.

But the only real peace on offer is the acceptance that you can never know, because the person with the answers will never tell you the truth, because it does not serve their purpose and it cannot show them in a good light. And even if they did tell you the truth how could your recognize it as that ? Too many lies kill trust stone dead to the point that somebody's word is worthless.

Takes some time to get to an easy acceptance, but once there, you are well on the road to not actually caring why anymore, just being very grateful that it is past not present. And that is a real liberation. Hard won, but worth every single tear and moment of holding fast, when all you want to do is run to them and say "Kill me all over again please" when you ask for an explanation and the truth.

Big fat hug love, you are doing amazingly well I know you might not feel like you are so strong, but actions count more than words and all your actions point to somebody with an amazing backbone and a huge sense of purpose.

Think not feel, one hour at a time if needed, it will get you to the other side of the valley and onto higher ground.

Actanonverba · 22/07/2011 10:10

Apocalypto he has absolutely NO legal rights to anything. I made sure that issue was water tight when he began living with me AFTER I had the marriage annulled, right down to my will being rewritten with the clause that he was to receive nothing.
It is a common misconception that 'common law' spouses have rights. The truth is they have little to no rights.
He can have what he is legally entitled to.............NOTHING!!

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elastamum · 22/07/2011 10:15

Well done AV!! You are doing great. Dont worry about the things you dont know, just bag them up mentally and move on. Accept you will never know the answers, and it doesnt matter anymore. Whats done is done and in order to have a better future for your family it is important not to look back and dwell on the past. It will get easier everyday.

Make a cup of tea, pour a glass of wine, put some music on and celebrate your new life! Be strong Smile

HerHissyness · 22/07/2011 10:21

So he tried to take you for half without even having lived with you? Sheesh!

Well shot OP, well shot!

Stay strong!

Actanonverba · 22/07/2011 10:23

Fastweb, out of all the posts I've read so far yours is the first to have made me cry! You so eloquently describe everything I am feeling and I now absolutely know I am not the only person to feel like this and that I have made the right decision.

Onwards and upwards.......one moment at a time!

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Apocalypto · 22/07/2011 10:38

@ ANV - OK, I missed the detail where you successfully got it annulled. I'm amazed you then got back together with him though....

Actanonverba · 22/07/2011 10:47

Not as amazed as I am..........Blush

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fastweb · 22/07/2011 11:54

It's not that amazing love.

It is very hard to detach when the pain of separation feels worse than the pain of being together. If you have no support to bounce ideas and thought processes off and nobody around you is prepared to keep focusing you back onto the logical conclusions for the sake of not hurting you some more, then .. or they have run away because they can't bear to see you being hurt and unable to move away from the fire anymore..then the broken hearted slip back.

What is amazing is having the resolve to deal with the practicals fully with your head, keeping your heart at bay long enough to get it done.

You are incredible strong and well placed to get through this for the last and final time, based on that evidence alone.

Celebrate your sucesses love, cos they are hugely significant in so many ways.

mathanxiety · 23/07/2011 00:32

'I really did get stuck on that question of "Why ? and what the fuck was our whole decade long relationship about and based on ?". So I know how pressing those questions can be and I know how it can almost possess you, the need to find out.'

You are absolutely not the only one. It took years of my life trying to figure out what exH wanted me for.

HerHissyness · 23/07/2011 11:15

math, I still don't know. Sad thing is, I don't think HE does either!

mathanxiety · 23/07/2011 19:30

I went through the Catholic annulment process -- the petition was initiated by exH. The process requires written and presumably well-considered answers to a huge array of detailed questions, and the answers can be as long as you wish. There were basically about three pages of questions, and you might expect that a relationship of 20 years would generate a lot of pages of answers. ExH turned in 7 pages, double spaced. I wrote 33. I was flabbergasted when I read what he had written, because it was so lacking in insight and detail.

Solo · 24/07/2011 09:47

How are you doing Actanon? I hope he's left you alone now. Come back and let us know that you are Ok please...Or if you need help, someone will live close to you I'm sure and would be willing to help ~ I know I would.

savoycabbage · 25/07/2011 02:44

I was wondering how you are too. Hope you are OK.

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