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On the verge of splittin up - Am I mad or confused!?

110 replies

Montessorisam · 15/03/2011 21:49

Hi there,

I need advice please - and lots of it!

I am married with 3 kids. For years me and husband have pretty much disliked each other intensly (I am being diplomatic here too)

We have argued constantly for a long time. I am bloody drained with it all. I quite often feel that I hate him.

I feel that there isn't a great deal of respect for anything that I do. For instance, I started a 25 hour week job in Jan which I love. He has made me feel that if he takes the kids to school whilst I work then it is a favour and he is helping me out! He told me that my getting the job has made life harder and I should have 'got a job in Tesco stacking shelves at night' I am a Montessori Nursery Teacher. Needless to say he doesn't do any housework and would live in a pigsty. So, the housework, ironing, etc falls to me too.

On Sundays he stays in bed til late. On Saturdays he works. I never get a lie-in and am exhausted. I hardly ever get a break from the kids.

He has run a business for 3 years and been totally focused on that. For our 3rd sons birth he took 4 days off work and then he pretty much left me to it all for a year and half. This included sleeping in a different room so that he wouldn't be woken at night. I would often tell him that I wasn't coping very well and I struggeld a lot. His answer to these situations is to 'stop moaning'. I feel that I have to put up and shut up. If I try to explain how I feel I am not heard.

Anything that I say and do is critisised. He re-inforces arguments of the past by constantly referring back to them. He tells me that I will 'never be happy', that I moan all the time, that I talk shit. I get frustrated and upset at times when I try to talk to him and he sneers at me and tells me 'to just take a look at yourself'. Added to this he drinks a bottle of wine every night which makes him unable to move in the morning until a stick of dynamite is thrown in the bed with him. Or I ask him to get up and help me which can take up to half an hour.

I have decided to stop taking the shit and demand a little respect from him. I am no longer standing for the critisism. I am no longer standing for it when he lays in bed til 8am and I am charging around trying to get 3 kids ready, breakfasted, etc. I have told him to leave and now I feel that I am no longer treading on egg shells in case of an argument and doing and saying exactly what I want.

I feel liberated but wondering if I have gone a bit mad?! How the heck do I think that I am going to cope with a 25 hour week job, 3 kids. He does 4 morning drop offs at school - I take our 22 month old to work with me and he looks after our youngest on a Tuesday. Should I be grateful and happy that he is helping that much and 'shut up and put up'? In order to have a working life, which stimulates me and puts an end to home life drudgery, do I have to be bloody eternally grateful that he does his bit? Shouldn't he be doing his bit anyway as they are his kids too??

The kids are getting sick of our arguing and I have tried to explain to them tonight that mummy and daddy are not friends at the moment (they are 6 and 9). I promised them that I would stop getting cross if daddy says something that annoys me and will go to another room for a few minutes if I feel like shouting.

I do not want to live with him anymore and will feel happier, less confused, less blamed, and free if he leaves! I do not feel that we have a future togther. We never do anything with each other. He has no hobbies or interests apart from his nightly drinking. Over the last couple of years he has become bitter, distant, cold and nasty. Should I shut up and put up just so that I can keep our family togther and so that I can continue to work and provide too?

OP posts:
BalloonSlayer · 17/03/2011 17:55

"His latest put down is that I won't cope alone."

Suggested reply "Well if I can't cope I'll come grovelling back to you, won't I?"

As the others have said, you're doing it all already.

PeterAndreForPM · 17/03/2011 18:09

We will see.

Yes, he will see that you will cope alone, without him dragging you down.

In fact, you will cope better.

My apologies for the part I played in your thread going nuclear. I find these men who come onto support threads to tell women what they should be doing to hang onto these useless partners very irritating. Sorry x

abedelia · 17/03/2011 18:52

Not surprised you had PND after your last child. Actually, you were probably just horrendously exhausted.

Personally I would pay a surprise visit to the business one day, maybe take some lunch in for him on a saturday (try and resist putting rat poison in it :))being all sweetness and light and asking him if he's feeling better and 'confiding' in the lovely assistant that he drinks a whole bottle of wine a night - though honestly, since he's been doing it for months, perhaps he's used to it? Does put him in an awful bad mood, though...

Might make her think twice and p**s on his fireworks somewhat. Is Jim Toby Young, perchance?

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100080238/mumsnet-isnt-representative-of-the-squeezed-middle-its-just-a-bunch-of-guardian-reading-laptop-wielding-harpies/#

SugarPasteFrog · 17/03/2011 19:14

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barcabell · 17/03/2011 19:28

Hi - oh I read it and thought it was me! I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse. But I too have 3 children and have a cold, distant and angry husband. We are on the verge of splitting up.. and it made me feel better reading your thread. I finally feel after making the decision that 'times up' quite calm.. but am not sure if that's temporary feeling or not? I could go on and on about our situation, but after reading your story I think in the end have that NOooo moment and feel better. I honestly think you know what you should do. I hope that you do leave for you and your children. Good luck I'm thinking of you!

Montessorisam · 17/03/2011 19:54

Hi Barcabell

I have very much decided wat to do. But now I have to put it into action - easier said than done.

I also felt that calmness and quite powerful for having taken control back. But after the evening I just had I feel quite the opposite....screamed at the kids (pooh, I swore I wouldn't take it out on them but they were being buggers) My 9 year old girl screamed back and I feel like I have been a shit parent and that I am definately not coping at all tonight. Anyway, have aplogised to them loads and explained that mummy is tired and feeling a bit sad about daddy, falling out, etc. What more can I do? Any advice on that one?

They know that things are bad - they are not daft. Might go on Amazon and order a book about kids and divorce. Anyone know of a good one?

Barcabell - know that you are not alone in this. My councellor pointed out today that I am not the first to separate and need help. It sort of made me think...

Anyway, thanks..X

OP posts:
Montessorisam · 17/03/2011 20:11

BTW - Have ordered the book 'Wifework' - it sounds great and very informative! Thanks for the advice.

OP posts:
UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 20:30

Bristoljim?

I know you on friends reunited!! We were never friends in the eighties when I was from never never land and you were still a complete wanker trying to be a hornet.

Bristol is full of weirdos

medicalmayhem · 17/03/2011 20:37

Wifework is a good book, so much of it rang bells for me, it made so alot of sense, ended up getting second hand one on amazon for a couple of quid, would highly recomend it to anyone.

Thingumy · 17/03/2011 20:38

'Bristoljim?

I know you on friends reunited!! We were never friends in the eighties when I was from never never land and you were still a complete wanker trying to be a hornet.

Bristol is full of weirdos'

WTF?

Hmm
PeterAndreForPM · 17/03/2011 20:40
Confused
UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 20:41

PA have had 2 bags of cheesy wotsits. On a bit of a mad high. haa

Thingumy · 17/03/2011 20:43

Uh huh...

PeterAndreForPM · 17/03/2011 20:43

cheesy wotsits ?

devil's work

Grin

TitsJim is a twat, of that there is no question

sincitylover · 17/03/2011 20:49

Anyone with any basic knowledge of addiction/alcholism/eating disorders etc knows that you cannot take on the problems of the 'owner' and help them.

In most cases they have to hit rock bottom and then they may or may not manage to beat their problem. But it's no reflection upon you and it isnt your problem.

Ive been in relationship with someone with a drink problem, lived with an anorexic, experienced infidelity and also married to someone who was EA.

None of those problems were mine to own - I have never inflicted any serious problems on anyone else and expected them to support me or solve it.

If you are brought up as a people pleaser or have low self esteem then you may think you need to help or rescue people who have such problems. That never makes an equal or healthy relationship.

WTF is Bristol Jim btw?

UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 20:50

I married a bristolian and we all know how he turned out.

Bristol is chocca with wankers people who call ipses 'Bristolwhatever'

People just dont write 'Neasdenjim'
or 'HarrowonthehillJim'
or 'AishJim' (a small hamlet in devon. Jim)

Bristolians for some reason think they own the Manor. Yes, a great university. But a stinky cliquey town.

PeterAndreForPM · 17/03/2011 20:53

then I am ManchesterPeter

doesn't have quite the same ring, does it

Thingumy · 17/03/2011 20:53

Nice generalisation on Bristol folk there Amazon.

sincitylover · 17/03/2011 20:55

Ha I also married a Bristolian !!

UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 21:00

I did hang out in bristol a lot. I know what I am chuntering bollox talking about.

I like sweeping generalisations too. I am going to sweepingly to suggest to the OP to give you no support after an abortion is bloody horrible and suggests a person who simply cannot empathise with or love, anybody but himself.

Never mind bristoltits. I would get out, and fast, go to CAB and a solicitor and talk to him about access since he is so bloody miserable. And of course you will cope. You cant stay this sad. You will become ill and that wont help the dcs one iota.

Do your husband a favour and make the decision for him - he is only trying to force you to make it so he can call you a mad cow anyway.

Then we can all meet up with our DCs and celebrate!

UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 21:03

'ManchesterPete' Grin

I mean, wtf? would you? even if fourteen sheets to the wind?

I would be 'DevonBrenda'

I mean, fgs.

PeterAndreForPM · 17/03/2011 21:05

I know

it's just attention-seeking to the n'th degree innit

I would rather he called himself TitsJim, tbh

UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 21:06

sincity did he think he was god's gift in the brasserie/moules mariniere arena as well as thinking he was hot in bed, but very insecure? A good cook, but generally a sulking childish twazzer?

UnlikelyAmazonian · 17/03/2011 21:11

Sorry for Hijack OP. I hope you are still reading this and realising that no you have not gone mad. Smile

The thing is, you wouldn't be able to type it all if it was true. You are doubting your own very reasoned argument.

And anyway if you are mad and barking the relationship isnt working. For now. So something needs to change. Sit him down and have a very serious conversation about where he is going to rent or stay while you sort out tax credits and you both consult solicitors.

ebbandflow · 17/03/2011 21:19

Does anyone out there understand why some women are attracted and stick by men who have alcohol problems?

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