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On the verge of splittin up - Am I mad or confused!?

110 replies

Montessorisam · 15/03/2011 21:49

Hi there,

I need advice please - and lots of it!

I am married with 3 kids. For years me and husband have pretty much disliked each other intensly (I am being diplomatic here too)

We have argued constantly for a long time. I am bloody drained with it all. I quite often feel that I hate him.

I feel that there isn't a great deal of respect for anything that I do. For instance, I started a 25 hour week job in Jan which I love. He has made me feel that if he takes the kids to school whilst I work then it is a favour and he is helping me out! He told me that my getting the job has made life harder and I should have 'got a job in Tesco stacking shelves at night' I am a Montessori Nursery Teacher. Needless to say he doesn't do any housework and would live in a pigsty. So, the housework, ironing, etc falls to me too.

On Sundays he stays in bed til late. On Saturdays he works. I never get a lie-in and am exhausted. I hardly ever get a break from the kids.

He has run a business for 3 years and been totally focused on that. For our 3rd sons birth he took 4 days off work and then he pretty much left me to it all for a year and half. This included sleeping in a different room so that he wouldn't be woken at night. I would often tell him that I wasn't coping very well and I struggeld a lot. His answer to these situations is to 'stop moaning'. I feel that I have to put up and shut up. If I try to explain how I feel I am not heard.

Anything that I say and do is critisised. He re-inforces arguments of the past by constantly referring back to them. He tells me that I will 'never be happy', that I moan all the time, that I talk shit. I get frustrated and upset at times when I try to talk to him and he sneers at me and tells me 'to just take a look at yourself'. Added to this he drinks a bottle of wine every night which makes him unable to move in the morning until a stick of dynamite is thrown in the bed with him. Or I ask him to get up and help me which can take up to half an hour.

I have decided to stop taking the shit and demand a little respect from him. I am no longer standing for the critisism. I am no longer standing for it when he lays in bed til 8am and I am charging around trying to get 3 kids ready, breakfasted, etc. I have told him to leave and now I feel that I am no longer treading on egg shells in case of an argument and doing and saying exactly what I want.

I feel liberated but wondering if I have gone a bit mad?! How the heck do I think that I am going to cope with a 25 hour week job, 3 kids. He does 4 morning drop offs at school - I take our 22 month old to work with me and he looks after our youngest on a Tuesday. Should I be grateful and happy that he is helping that much and 'shut up and put up'? In order to have a working life, which stimulates me and puts an end to home life drudgery, do I have to be bloody eternally grateful that he does his bit? Shouldn't he be doing his bit anyway as they are his kids too??

The kids are getting sick of our arguing and I have tried to explain to them tonight that mummy and daddy are not friends at the moment (they are 6 and 9). I promised them that I would stop getting cross if daddy says something that annoys me and will go to another room for a few minutes if I feel like shouting.

I do not want to live with him anymore and will feel happier, less confused, less blamed, and free if he leaves! I do not feel that we have a future togther. We never do anything with each other. He has no hobbies or interests apart from his nightly drinking. Over the last couple of years he has become bitter, distant, cold and nasty. Should I shut up and put up just so that I can keep our family togther and so that I can continue to work and provide too?

OP posts:
PeterAndreForPM · 16/03/2011 14:37

yes, jim

irony never was your strong point then ?

PeterAndreForPM · 16/03/2011 14:37

'cos you is a bit fick, jim ?

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 14:37

nope, can't be bothered to engage.
not worth it.
just Fuck Off and when you get there fuck off some more.

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 14:41

Sorry OP! That wasn't to you at all, it was to the troll on the thread, who has been reported and should be ignored.

Your H is causing you a huge amount of pain. He is belittling you and making you doubt your sanity - and therefore is abusing you mentally and emotionally. Who knows what he gets out of it - he clearly doesn't love you, no one who loves a person does that to them. Take back control of your life and see him for the bullying idiot he is.

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 14:42

The man needs help. The OP needs help. The family need help.

Just pointing out that the renowned stupidity of the facile MN forum might not be the best arena to seek it.

PeterAndreForPM · 16/03/2011 14:43

I would love to engage (with jim), but I need to suck my husband's cock do the school run

monte, sorry for the hijack there

not fair on your thread, not at all

it will pass when jim fucks off and you will get more useful advice, but above all and more imporanly, empathy

living with somebody with a drinking problem can be one of he hardest relationship troubles to overcome

drink makes you very selfish, and very often, you have to get to rock botom (or lose your family) before you pick yourself up and admit the issue

BalloonSlayer · 16/03/2011 14:44

I think you'll cope fine when he is gone. He sounds awful.

Re how you will cope - I don't have a problem with my DH and he does quite a bit round the house, but I am always in a bit of a muddle. However, if he ever goes away on business I manage a lot better because I am not hoping/expecting him to do this, that or the other, I know I have it all to do myself and organise myself accordingly.

PeterAndreForPM · 16/03/2011 14:44

jim..if we are so stupid, why don't you simply do one ?

are you hoping to save us all with your manly superiority ?

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 14:45

If you dislike the MN forum so much then why don't you just fuck off entirely and leave it to people who actually offer helpful information then, Jim? Your input is valueless here.

BarbaraBar · 16/03/2011 14:45

Lol at BrizzleJim talking about the renowned stupidity of the facile MN forum.

Where do you think you are now? Nuts magazine's forum?

You signed up for it mate......

girlfromdownsouth · 16/03/2011 14:48

Monte it may be worth considering going down the counselling route, however only if you both agree to go and you can both feel it within your hearts to try your best at the counselling.

My sister was in a negative relationship with her husband (16 yrs marriage and 2 children). They were at eachother's throats for a couple of years.

Long story short - they went to counselling for quite a long time. It didn't work. They mutually agreed to split. One year on my sister is the happiest I have ever seen her. BTW she also works.

Whether you go down the counselling route or not is entirely up to you. All I know is that it almost killed my sister to make the decision to part ways but she is a much happier, more fulfilled person now.

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 14:52

If I thought there was any other helpful information being offered, I would gladly leave you to it.

Instead, I see kneejerk, juvenile 'dump him' crap, like the OP is 15, and not a RL mother of 3 at the end of her tether.

The H has a possible aclohol dependency, depression, stress. These are serious issues that deserve more than the standard glib response of the MN marriage vultures.

exile · 16/03/2011 14:53

Ok so you have told him he was out of order a few times already.
And it hasn't changed anything because it's all 'your' fault.
Seeing what you've jst been through and his lack of support, it looks like he has withdrawn himsef completely from family life.
Have told him that you are ready to get separated because of that? It has been a very big wake up call for my H.

If even with the thread of you leaving he doesn't want to make any effort to change, then I think you are right to go ahead and get divorced. Because you are not mad or asking for too much. Respect from your partner is the minimum you should ask for.

And jim, im some ways you are right. But being depressed, feeling unappreciated is NOT a licence to be spitefull and hurful to the person you are suppose to love the most.

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 14:55

No it's not, I never said it was, but if it may be a sympton of something fixable.

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 15:03

IF, for example (hates self for gettin sucked in) the problem is actually alcohol dependency then there is NOTHING the OP can do to help him. NO ONE can help an alcoholic/near alcoholic except the person themselves - so your opinion and "information" is not only valueless, it is wrong.

exile · 16/03/2011 15:03

Too many xposts!

BalloonSlayer · 16/03/2011 15:05

jim the OP has already made the decision to end her marriage. She has asked her H to leave. It's in her first post.

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 15:05

IF, for example (hates self for gettin sucked in) the problem is actually alcohol dependency then there is NOTHING the OP can do to help him. NO ONE can help an alcoholic/near alcoholic except the person themselves - so your opinion and "information" is not only valueless, it is wrong.

Heh.

Oh you were serious? What drivel.

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 15:06

Drivel is a bit harsh, but it's clearly wrong.

lusciousliz · 16/03/2011 15:07

he will be over the limit in the morning if he drinks a lot at night

newnamethistime · 16/03/2011 15:09

BristolJim - have you any idea how difficult it is to deal with someone that has 'possible aclohol dependency, depression, stress' and they are being unsupportive and abusive as well (on top of dealing with 2 dc)?

I suspect not. In fact I suspect that you haven't a clue about any of this as you seem so sure things are 'fixable'. My H has been in weekly therapy for a year and a half now and has only recently realised he has had depression (on top of the alcohol dependency, stress and being abusive to me and our dc - I also had an abortion as a result of my H making our lives misery, interestingly he was also a pile of rubbish there, he got drunk instead of looking after dc meaning I had to look after them while he slept off his hangover). The difference between my H and the OPs H is that mine took responsibility for his own actions and stopped blaming me and dc.

Some of us here do know what the OP is going through where as you come across as a pillock that can use a keyboard.

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 15:09

not helping yourself there Jim - it is true that an alcohol-dependent has to want to change before anyone else can help them. So, sorry an' all that but you are the wrong one.

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 15:10

fecking italics! Still not working properly...

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 15:19

not helping yourself there Jim - it is true that "an alcohol-dependent has to want to change before anyone else can help them." So, sorry an' all that but ^you are the wrong one

Yes, it is true indeed. But that's not what you said is it? Let's see...

No one can help an alcoholic/near alcoholic except the person themselves

There are many, many ways that someone close to an alcoholic can push, guide, cajole, persuade them towards acknowledging they have a problem. It is difficult and thankless but alcoholics can be helped.

Move along now, Thumbwitch, you've embarassed yourself a bit there.

GypsyMoth · 16/03/2011 15:20

Is bristoljim a troll then??

Because I actually see some sense In What he/she is saying! It's true, it's one side of the story ..... But I'm probably missing something

Op..... Could you actually find him a place to go? Move it on a bit?

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