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On the verge of splittin up - Am I mad or confused!?

110 replies

Montessorisam · 15/03/2011 21:49

Hi there,

I need advice please - and lots of it!

I am married with 3 kids. For years me and husband have pretty much disliked each other intensly (I am being diplomatic here too)

We have argued constantly for a long time. I am bloody drained with it all. I quite often feel that I hate him.

I feel that there isn't a great deal of respect for anything that I do. For instance, I started a 25 hour week job in Jan which I love. He has made me feel that if he takes the kids to school whilst I work then it is a favour and he is helping me out! He told me that my getting the job has made life harder and I should have 'got a job in Tesco stacking shelves at night' I am a Montessori Nursery Teacher. Needless to say he doesn't do any housework and would live in a pigsty. So, the housework, ironing, etc falls to me too.

On Sundays he stays in bed til late. On Saturdays he works. I never get a lie-in and am exhausted. I hardly ever get a break from the kids.

He has run a business for 3 years and been totally focused on that. For our 3rd sons birth he took 4 days off work and then he pretty much left me to it all for a year and half. This included sleeping in a different room so that he wouldn't be woken at night. I would often tell him that I wasn't coping very well and I struggeld a lot. His answer to these situations is to 'stop moaning'. I feel that I have to put up and shut up. If I try to explain how I feel I am not heard.

Anything that I say and do is critisised. He re-inforces arguments of the past by constantly referring back to them. He tells me that I will 'never be happy', that I moan all the time, that I talk shit. I get frustrated and upset at times when I try to talk to him and he sneers at me and tells me 'to just take a look at yourself'. Added to this he drinks a bottle of wine every night which makes him unable to move in the morning until a stick of dynamite is thrown in the bed with him. Or I ask him to get up and help me which can take up to half an hour.

I have decided to stop taking the shit and demand a little respect from him. I am no longer standing for the critisism. I am no longer standing for it when he lays in bed til 8am and I am charging around trying to get 3 kids ready, breakfasted, etc. I have told him to leave and now I feel that I am no longer treading on egg shells in case of an argument and doing and saying exactly what I want.

I feel liberated but wondering if I have gone a bit mad?! How the heck do I think that I am going to cope with a 25 hour week job, 3 kids. He does 4 morning drop offs at school - I take our 22 month old to work with me and he looks after our youngest on a Tuesday. Should I be grateful and happy that he is helping that much and 'shut up and put up'? In order to have a working life, which stimulates me and puts an end to home life drudgery, do I have to be bloody eternally grateful that he does his bit? Shouldn't he be doing his bit anyway as they are his kids too??

The kids are getting sick of our arguing and I have tried to explain to them tonight that mummy and daddy are not friends at the moment (they are 6 and 9). I promised them that I would stop getting cross if daddy says something that annoys me and will go to another room for a few minutes if I feel like shouting.

I do not want to live with him anymore and will feel happier, less confused, less blamed, and free if he leaves! I do not feel that we have a future togther. We never do anything with each other. He has no hobbies or interests apart from his nightly drinking. Over the last couple of years he has become bitter, distant, cold and nasty. Should I shut up and put up just so that I can keep our family togther and so that I can continue to work and provide too?

OP posts:
BristolJim · 16/03/2011 15:24

Thanks Tiffany lover!

Definitely a he, definitely not a troll.

lusciousliz · 16/03/2011 15:25

can i ask why you had more children with him if you hated each other?

not being funny, just curious

newnamethistime · 16/03/2011 15:28

BJ-

There are many, many ways that someone close to an alcoholic can push, guide, cajole, persuade them towards acknowledging they have a problem. It is difficult and thankless but alcoholics can be helped.

This is not really what AA or Al-anon recommend (because it doesn't work).

newnamethistime · 16/03/2011 15:28

sorry - there should be quotation marks around the first bit

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 15:32

not at all Jim - you are still in the wrong and if you can't see that the two things I said are pretty much the same then learn English a little better.

Montessori - I am so sorry your thread has been hijacked in this way, it is not helpful at all to you.
Please come back and read the posts that are actually addressing your issues in a supportive manner.

Underachieving · 16/03/2011 15:35

Jim do you have a photography buisness, 3 kids, a wife who works in a nursery, a drink problem and a sadistic streak by any chance?

Oh no sorry, ignore that last one, I know the answer to that.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/03/2011 15:35

These children are learning from both of you about relationships. I would think very carefully about the lessons you are both currently teaching them.
They are sick of hearing the two of you arguing with each other; if that does not tell your man something then what will?.

Staying together for the sake of the children is never a good idea; they are not the glue that should be holding the relationship together nor ever be placed in such a position of responsibility in the first place.

HHLimbo · 16/03/2011 15:36

OP, reading your posts has made me feel so angry for you! He is horrible, so nasty, unsupportive and undermining - the opposite of what a partner should be.

My gut reaction is that you need 2 things;
1 - a locksmith to change the locks
2 - black bin bags to dump his stuff on the doorstep.

HHLimbo · 16/03/2011 15:39

This may well give him the wake up call he needs to address his alcohol and behavioural problems.

But more importantly, it will give you the breathing space to enjoy your new job and your 3 children.

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 15:42

HHLimbo - unless the OP owns the house outright by herself and it's in her name only, she cannot legally change the locks. If she were under threat of violence, she possibly should anyway because the police sometimes look the other way, but she hasn't said she is so in reality she shouldn't do it because her H could just make her give him a key.

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 16/03/2011 15:51

OP, I suggest you contact a solicitor WRT rights, maintenance etc and make sure you have all the necessary information, particularly WRT forcing this man out of the house. You have put enough time and effort into trying to help him with his problems, he has done fuck all apart from whine, drink and get his ego stroked by his Lovely Assistant. Women's Aid might be helpful as well - he is abusive with his sulking and namecalling and threats to upset the DC. Just because he's not actually beating you up doesn't mean you should accept his nasty behaviour. He can be made to leave or at the least the house can be forcibly sold.

BristolJim · 16/03/2011 15:55

SCGB - you evil witch. This is a RL marriage, with RL children. Grow up.

I truly despair.

QuintessentialShadows · 16/03/2011 15:56

BristolJim, there is also a RL woman in this scenario. Not a "blow up barbara".

snotalways · 16/03/2011 17:14

I don't think your mad or confused.

You've got to wonder whether he wants to be forced out.

He sounds bloody awful.

Get your head together, take some time off, get to the solicitors and whoever else you need to, get it all sorted out and go to him with a realistic proposal.

It might be that he is happy to go if you organise a bedsit or flat for him.

In my view you cannot afford for him to stay in your home - he's gonna drive you mad, literally mad and your kids are going to be messed up.

It doesn't need to be over for ever, counselling might sort it out after he has left the home.

LittleMissHissyFit · 16/03/2011 18:13

"Yes, take marriage advice from someone who thinks Peter Andre would make a good Prime Minister.

Jesus."

Not been here that long then Jimbo? PMSL.

But hey, that gives me a cracking idea...

JesusforPM · 16/03/2011 18:18

Ta-dahhhh!

Monty, you are clearly miserable, something has to give. he is being vile,abusive and manipulative and if a sit him down and reading him the riot act would work, then do it, but if not, then tbh, it's not going to work.

PeterAndreForPM · 16/03/2011 18:31

Jesus !

For PM !

Take marriage advice from a bloke who uses another word for tits in his name ?

Not bloody likely, mate !

Grin
medicalmayhem · 16/03/2011 18:41

OP apart from the school run it seems like you are already running this household and raising the children, apart from mowing the grass and putting the bins out (maybe) what would you actually miss if he went, he is an asshole who tbh sounds as if he cant stand you ands wishes you'd fuck off, and you seem to think the same about him, (my ex and i had got to this stage b4 i kicked him out, he was abusive and threatening so was able to get court order to have him removed, )

don't rush this think it through, find someone to help with drop offs for school run, a friend, breakfast club, family, etc, start to squirrel some money away, get household bills etc in order and in your name if poss, sort out any debts, and if you can put a bit of credit on your gas, electric account to tide you over if you can, and then see a solicitor to find out how to get rid of him!! phone tax credits straight away you will be entitled to child tax credits and working tax credits, as you do over 16 hours a week, put a plan in place, i have been through all of this last year and it does take up alot of your time, soooo much paperwork and form filling, see if you are able to get legal aid, although you will have to repay most of it these days,

if you had asked me several years ago if i thought i would of been a lone parent with an abusive ex i would of said no way, but things happen, i tried to save my marriage for 2 years b4 i finally gave in, being broken in spirit and so demoralized, and it was then i realised i had to sort out a plan for me and my kids, hes been gone 5 months now and tbh i haven't even noticed, he did so little to help, and in giving me no emotional, moral support at all for years meant that without even knowing i became a strong independent women who in the end didn't even think of turning to him for any problems or issues i or we had!

SugarPasteFrog · 16/03/2011 19:33

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HHLimbo · 16/03/2011 21:05

He certainly is a dick

thumbwitch · 16/03/2011 21:24

:( - I think the OP has disappeared and I hope not, I hope she comes back for the good advice that has been given here.

I can't stand these men who come on and blame the woman for their pathetic partner's bad behaviour - there was another one, who YES WAS A TROLL, who was got rid of for doing the same.

Women in the situation of being ridiculed, told they are crazy, put down all the time etc. do not need some man on a forum telling them that they are right. Talk about own agenda there! Utterly insensitive and completely un-fucking-helpful.

Montessorisam · 17/03/2011 11:44

Hi there,

I am back after a good nights sleep! Wow, my thread certainly provoked a reaction! I had to disappear as it was doing my head in! Thanks for all of the positive advice though. It has given me some food for thought. I am going to see a councellor today to get my head straightened out a bit.

I cannot stay in this thankless marriage. Much as I would love to support my H for longer I can only do so much and my kids are priority.

He does have a drink problem but that is no longer MY problem. he is depressed but I will NOT allow him to pull me down for longer.

Right now though - whilst he is still here - it is tough going. I didn't play mum to him this morning and get him up. I didn't ask him to help. It is my day off work and I took all the kids to school. I got back at 10.30am and he was still in bed. Only the sounds of my 2 year old having a tantrum got him up. This makes me wonder if even the business will still keep going after he leaves....?

I cannot live like this anymore. It is madness. His latest put down is that I won't cope alone.

We will see.

Feeling tough todayX

OP posts:
GypsyMoth · 17/03/2011 12:03

had to laugh cos theres one thing which is certain,you WILL cope!!

good luck with today Sam!

thumbwitch · 17/03/2011 12:25

nice to see you back again montessori!
YOu certainly will cope - once this energy-sapping man is out of your home and your daily life, it will become much easier for you to do things. You'll find your own routine, your children will be less stressed, and you won't be walking on eggshells the whole time.

when he says that YOU won't be able to cope, what he really means is that HE wouldn't be able to cope - but you are not him. And you will manage it.

Stay tough! :)

GeekLove · 17/03/2011 12:49

you won't cope alone Errr except you already do and it will be easier without him. He is simply child no4 without any of the good bits. Lifes too short to be married to a shitmaker. Being single is an upgrade when it comes to that relationship. But at the same time there will be a wiers bit when you miss him.'so whatever you do be strong, have fun with the DCs and get through the wobble.